Analyzing 'Return to Oz' and 'Hereditary' from the Cemetary!

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Alright, howdy folks.

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I am Just Blane, Bob Briggs.

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You Most of you don't know who
Joe Bob Briggs is, so you sure

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as hell don't know who I am.

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Right?

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But hey, we're having fun, and
this is the Witch Movie Project.

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Me and Courtney put this thing
together about six months ago or so.

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Oh yeah.

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Started talking about
this, and it just happened.

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I got roped in.

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She got roped in.

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It wasn't hard, because all we did
was really talk about a bunch of witch

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movies, and she is Daybreak's local witch.

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So it was very easy for me to say, hey.

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Would you like to watch some witch
movies and talk about them with me?

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Yes.

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And that was her answer.

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That was it.

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That was all it was because we
didn't have to ask much more.

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Now, I got to say though, that
this was a selfish project of mine,

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because this for one is Joe Bob Riggs.

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This is my ultimate homage to him.

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Best it gets.

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Sorry, Joe Bob, if you're watching.

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But Joe Bob Riggs is a horror movie host.

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He started doing this a long time
ago on TNT for MonsterVision.

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He's been doing it longer than
most of us in here have been alive.

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Actually, yes, longer than
all of us have been alive.

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I just had a look around the room.

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But this is something that he's been
doing is basically hosting movies.

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So, yes, selfish project of mine.

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And I brought her into it because
I watch these movies anyway.

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Don't you?

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Like, is this?

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Oh, yeah.

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I love movies.

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So, sign me up.

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Now, out of the ones that we did
though, Courtney, which one, which

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one, which was your favorite?

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That's a hard one.

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Now, that's really hard because
I had favorites that I had

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picked when we made our lists.

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We did like a master list, right?

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All of our favorite
witch movies and stuff.

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Some of them didn't even make it
on, on the final roster, but, uh, I

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had my favorites already picked out.

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I was like practical magic.

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You can't go wrong, right?

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Who loves practical magic?

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Woo!

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Give me a, give me a woo woo!

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Midnight margaritas.

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So my favorites, right?

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I mean, that's not too horrible, not
too horror scary, like real tame,

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real, um, realistic as far as what
I think witches really are like.

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Um, but then I had to watch a bunch of
movies I was really uncomfortable with.

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And then loved them once I watched them.

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So now, to pick a favorite would
be like, a favorite of which kind?

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It's tough because we had, we had,
here's the thing, we had family movies in

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there, and we had the scariest of scary.

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Now if I had my way, let me
go on a little rant here.

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If I had my way, you know what we
would have shown tonight, and I

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had to get talked out of this by
everybody that there was, but I wanted

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to show the autopsy of Jane Doe.

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But nah, some people say,
ah, she's, she's too naked.

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I'm like, no, well, nobody thinks about
that because she's getting cut open.

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Nobody's thinking about there's
a naked woman on the table.

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I would have a show there
and I might still show it.

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I'm the one with the
remote here, Courtney.

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Yeah.

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Um, sorry, kids.

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Y'all gonna have to close
your eyes and not watch.

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Yeah.

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It was a little bit, a little bit too, uh,
off the cliff as far as the witch movies

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go, and I thought, let's rein it back in.

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And let's pick one that is
just creepy enough to be like,

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wait, what is going on here?

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And also in the family
friendly movie genre.

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Now, this movie has got ties to
witches because it's got one of

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the most famous witches, right?

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The Wicked Witch.

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The Wicked Witch of the West.

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Now, if you haven't seen Return to
Oz is what we're talking about here.

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It says fantasy, action, and adventure.

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They forgot to put horror on there
because this movie is completely

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creepy in all kinds of ways.

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Now you gotta think about this.

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This is made in 1985.

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45 plus years after The Wizard
of Oz. So for a long time,

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somebody get the door please.

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So for a long time, this had the record
for longest years between sequels.

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Until another movie came out called Bambi
2, which none of you guys saw that either.

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But you definitely haven't seen The
Return to Oz. But you gotta see this.

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And me and Courtney
started talking about it.

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We said, why do they
need to see this movie?

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It's tied to witches, but this is
the sequel to Wizard of Oz. And

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soon we've got Wicked coming out.

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So we wanted to make sure that
everybody was up to par on

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their Wizard of Oz knowledge.

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A lot of people thought when this came
out, they were like, oh, this is not good.

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Right?

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Because they're used to Judy Garland.

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I mean, everybody loves the
Wizard of Oz came out in 1939.

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Everybody loves that version, right?

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Everybody loves it.

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But it's not as close to the novels.

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And a lot of fans of this movie
love it because it's a little bit

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more close to what L. Frank Baum
had made when he wrote the novels.

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And it does combine quite a few of the
books in the series into one movie.

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So.

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You kind of have to set aside
your Judy Garland version.

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Yeah.

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And you have to appreciate this for
what it is all by itself, right?

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Now here's the book here, guys.

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I got an original copy of this thing.

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You see this?

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This has got like
library prints and stuff.

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This is really, really old.

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But you can see right here, this
thing is already creeping me out.

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Now I'm going to sit here, we're
going to read this entire book.

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Now,

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You said really old.

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I'm just kidding, guys.

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I'm not going to sit here and
make you read the entire book.

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But what I'm going to do is,
This movie is set in about 1899.

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So even though it's 40 plus years
after the original movie, it's

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only 6 months after Dorothy has
went to Oz. In, in, in movie time.

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So, you gotta think they're
here in the 1899, 1900s.

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Let me go in and talk about
the economy back then.

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1800s.

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Is that okay, Courtney?

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You think I can go off on a rant here?

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You can't, you can't not talk about it.

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Huh?

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No, I'm not gonna talk about that either.

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But, the movie Return to Oz. Farooza Bach.

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She had to be terrified out
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being on set the whole time.

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It's no reason, no wonder that she has
kind of quit acting and disappeared now.

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This movie probably still scarred her.

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You think this is the one?

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This is probably the one out
of all the ones that she did.

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But you're right, if you're
expecting the Judy Garland, Dorothy,

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cheery, happy, this ain't it.

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So you're allowed to leave now from my
live audience, and you're allowed to

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stop watching if you're looking at home.

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But what do you think,
Courtney, should we start it up?

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All right, and what we're gonna do
So let's start the movie But what

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we're gonna do is we'll stop the movie
down every once in a while and we'll

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talk for a couple more minutes But
we're gonna let it run for a while.

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Now.

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I'm telling you.

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I Hope nobody here has nightmares tonight.

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You see a lot of crazy stuff in here.

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I Mean, they're gonna go to electro
shock therapy right out the beginning.

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I don't know if we should have
kids But let's go see this thing.

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Dorothy is crazy

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and let's start it up

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Now.

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People are you?

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No, I said we're gonna stop it.

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That's what we're here for.

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We're still taping a podcast also.

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So.

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So we're 40 minutes into this
movie and let's just go through

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a list here because electroshock
therapy is not the worst thing we've

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seen yet, not the weirdest thing.

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We've seen a talking chicken, TikTok.

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What the hell is TikTok?

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Yeah, the original.

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The original TikTok.

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Yeah.

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Let me throw this out there for you
though because I do want to put this out.

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Gymnast Michael Sundin.

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Actually stood upside down with
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and walked to make Tick Tock.

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Oh

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wow.

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Now Courtney can you, now
Courtney's going to demonstrate

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how he did that for us here.

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So it says stood upside
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I'm just telling you now that this is just
the tip of the iceberg of the weirdness.

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Now you saw the wheelers, I think they
took the place of the flying monkeys.

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I'm not sure, the wheelers are way
more disturbing than flying monkeys.

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I didn't find any reference of
wheelers in the, in the books.

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Nah, nah, I think that's something
they found out, it's a, they

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found a costume at the dump.

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You know, they got it out
of the scrapyard there.

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Cause the wheels look like something off
of a stroller or something, I'm not sure.

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Yeah, it kind of looks
fun, I want to try it.

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I'm sure you like hold the wheels
in the front with your arms and you

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like wheel around it's kind of like
rollerblading but with all four limbs.

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I think it looks like fun.

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I would try it.

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Only her.

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Only her.

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We would make a

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gang.

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Let me tell you this too.

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So, so, I'm going to throw this fact
out there too because Judy Garland

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was 16 years old when she made The
Wizard of Oz. Now, Farouz is only 10.

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She's 10 years old.

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This is her first major movie.

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She beat out.

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10, 000 plus people to get this role.

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They said there were 600
people in Vancouver alone.

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Oh, I believe it.

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And they saw her and they
said, yes, this is it.

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And I think they nailed it.

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I really do.

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I think Farooza plays a great Dorothy
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younger than our original Dorothy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And, um, I would like to point out
Aunt Em was much younger than the

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original Aunt Em in the 30s film.

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Uh, I, I mean, I imagine she
was somewhere in, like, her 50s

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or 60s in the original movie.

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And then this one was, um, more
like my age, I want to say.

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So there are

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only two actors that were
still alive from the original.

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When this one came out, one of
them was the main flying monkey.

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Maybe he's the one that
said, you know what?

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No more flying monkeys.

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We're not doing that.

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So offensive to

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me.

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Well, let's get back.

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Let's get back to the movie.

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But before we do, I got to point
out here too, that the violence.

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This movie, I believe, has
the highest body count out

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of all the movies we picked.

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And we had Blair Witch Project,
we had The Witch, Suspiria, maybe

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Suspiria beat it, I don't know.

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We had a lot of

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bodies in Suspiria.

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Yeah, what other

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movies did we have?

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We had quite a few others, but I believe
that this one has the highest body count.

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You saw a TikTok over
there, he whooped ass.

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He just whooped ass.

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That gymnast in there, upside down.

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Well, let's get back,
let's get back at it.

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Only

245
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got that house done.

246
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There it is.

247
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There's a lot to unpack here.

248
00:10:54,252 --> 00:10:58,412
Yeah, well, is it just me, or is anyone
else attracted to Jack Pumpkinhead?

249
00:10:58,432 --> 00:10:59,692
I think he's pretty cute.

250
00:11:00,962 --> 00:11:03,912
I thought he was kind of cute,
but that is my husband over there.

251
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So that may be, maybe his wife.

252
00:11:05,842 --> 00:11:06,202
Well,

253
00:11:06,632 --> 00:11:07,772
he's playing Jack tonight.

254
00:11:07,932 --> 00:11:12,052
Jack Skellington, but let's not
get it twisted because Tim Burton

255
00:11:12,052 --> 00:11:16,092
definitely took inspiration for Jack
Skellington from Jack Pumpkinhead.

256
00:11:16,252 --> 00:11:17,322
I mean, it's obvious.

257
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How could you not?

258
00:11:18,562 --> 00:11:20,972
It's, it's the same figure.

259
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Am I right?

260
00:11:21,942 --> 00:11:22,312
Yeah.

261
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You didn't see it.

262
00:11:24,172 --> 00:11:27,842
Now, there's a lot though to unpack.

263
00:11:28,527 --> 00:11:29,757
I want to talk about the gump.

264
00:11:30,567 --> 00:11:31,357
Yeah, okay.

265
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Like,

266
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what the hell is the gump?

267
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It's a

268
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moose, right?

269
00:11:33,227 --> 00:11:33,877
Now, they put

270
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together this bed, some palm
fronds, and a gump head.

271
00:11:40,357 --> 00:11:44,297
Now, palm fronds, that's really, you
know, that's what the leaves are.

272
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That's called fronds.

273
00:11:44,637 --> 00:11:45,472
Yeah.

274
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Now, a gump is not real, though.

275
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But fronds are.

276
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Okay.

277
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I'll believe you.

278
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I think a

279
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gump is a made up fictional character
that they've made just for this, because

280
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I don't think I've ever run across a gump.

281
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Yeah.

282
00:11:56,642 --> 00:11:56,962
No?

283
00:11:57,772 --> 00:11:58,402
You have somebody?

284
00:11:58,402 --> 00:11:59,222
Oh, Amanda has.

285
00:11:59,222 --> 00:12:01,766
I think I dated somebody
with the last name Gump.

286
00:12:01,766 --> 00:12:02,021
Okay.

287
00:12:02,021 --> 00:12:02,784
That's close enough.

288
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She's come across a

289
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Gump before.

290
00:12:04,512 --> 00:12:04,802
Yeah.

291
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So.

292
00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:05,592
Ryan Forrest.

293
00:12:08,442 --> 00:12:09,332
Oh, wow.

294
00:12:09,392 --> 00:12:10,922
Coincidences all over the place.

295
00:12:11,192 --> 00:12:15,842
So that scene with the Gump and the
flying thing, that was one of Walter

296
00:12:15,852 --> 00:12:18,212
Murch's favorite parts to film.

297
00:12:18,222 --> 00:12:20,502
Now Walter Murch was the
director of this film.

298
00:12:21,682 --> 00:12:24,592
He, now that was also the hardest
part of the movie to film.

299
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Which makes sense for Walter Murch because
he got fired from directing this movie

300
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about in the middle, early on, actually,
because he was taking so long to film.

301
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Until George Lucas and Steven Spielberg
came to his rescue, literally, and said,

302
00:12:42,457 --> 00:12:46,007
no, no, no, no, no, you got to give
this guy a shot to direct this movie.

303
00:12:46,277 --> 00:12:46,792
That's nice.

304
00:12:46,792 --> 00:12:49,937
So, they put in the work for him,
and he came and directed this thing,

305
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and as of Uh, October 31st, 2024.

306
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This is the only movie he has directed.

307
00:12:58,927 --> 00:12:59,447
Oh, wow.

308
00:12:59,467 --> 00:13:03,697
So I don't know if it's scarred him
that bad, if the experience scarred

309
00:13:03,697 --> 00:13:07,227
him that bad, or if he just said, you
know what, it's as good as it gets.

310
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Kind of a perfectionist, maybe.

311
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Maybe.

312
00:13:09,537 --> 00:13:12,097
Maybe it just took too long because he
needed all the details to be just perfect.

313
00:13:12,157 --> 00:13:13,647
But he, but he got it together, I think.

314
00:13:13,647 --> 00:13:17,522
And what they put out here is
definitely, It's a cult classic.

315
00:13:17,842 --> 00:13:18,092
Yeah.

316
00:13:18,172 --> 00:13:19,512
Oh, and it's definitely coming back.

317
00:13:19,532 --> 00:13:21,042
You can watch it in movie theaters now.

318
00:13:21,042 --> 00:13:22,122
People bringing it back.

319
00:13:22,242 --> 00:13:23,012
I saw it at Brovies.

320
00:13:23,032 --> 00:13:25,842
We saw a poster for it at Brovies
here in downtown Salt Lake.

321
00:13:25,842 --> 00:13:27,262
So it does, it is coming

322
00:13:27,262 --> 00:13:27,762
up.

323
00:13:27,762 --> 00:13:27,912
Now,

324
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what else do you got to say about this
movie before we wrap this thing up?

325
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If you're

326
00:13:31,182 --> 00:13:36,022
wondering why it's a witch movie,
Princess Mambi is actually a witch.

327
00:13:36,122 --> 00:13:41,332
And in the books, in the second
novel, she is a, um, witch Mambi.

328
00:13:41,332 --> 00:13:43,392
She's like the Wicked Witch of the West.

329
00:13:44,042 --> 00:13:44,982
Uh, clearly.

330
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Taking your heads off.

331
00:13:46,962 --> 00:13:48,192
Switching out heads.

332
00:13:48,442 --> 00:13:51,022
I mean, that's not something
a princess would do.

333
00:13:51,072 --> 00:13:51,642
Am I right?

334
00:13:51,652 --> 00:13:52,422
It's witches things.

335
00:13:52,462 --> 00:13:53,062
Witches.

336
00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:53,692
You do that.

337
00:13:53,702 --> 00:13:54,122
Yeah.

338
00:13:54,962 --> 00:13:58,172
You swap out heads I could
swap out heads, I would.

339
00:13:59,762 --> 00:14:02,002
If I could go younger
head, yep, I'll take it.

340
00:14:02,472 --> 00:14:03,252
I would do it.

341
00:14:03,862 --> 00:14:04,172
Yeah.

342
00:14:04,632 --> 00:14:10,402
So, in the second novel, though, they
had, uh, it was a orphan boy named

343
00:14:10,422 --> 00:14:12,402
Tip is the protagonist of that film.

344
00:14:12,402 --> 00:14:16,992
He's the one that makes Jack
Pumpkinhead to scare the witch mambi,

345
00:14:17,492 --> 00:14:19,612
um, like Jack says in this movie.

346
00:14:19,612 --> 00:14:22,832
So, just interesting that they
pulled together a lot of things

347
00:14:22,832 --> 00:14:24,872
from the different Oz books.

348
00:14:24,892 --> 00:14:30,402
So, if you're young, you like reading,
I might recommend getting the original

349
00:14:30,412 --> 00:14:32,552
series of the Oz books and reading them.

350
00:14:33,292 --> 00:14:39,152
And if you're older, you enjoy older
novels, more mature, the Wicked series

351
00:14:41,182 --> 00:14:42,502
is really, really good.

352
00:14:42,512 --> 00:14:47,962
Very mature, but it kind of takes
that whole legend of asthma and the

353
00:14:47,962 --> 00:14:52,022
explanation of why animals talk, and
it takes another kind of political

354
00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:55,472
turn with it, and it's really amazing.

355
00:14:55,472 --> 00:14:56,162
It's a great series.

356
00:14:56,162 --> 00:14:58,212
This is the last one of
the series out of Oz.

357
00:14:58,532 --> 00:14:59,372
I've read all of them.

358
00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:03,772
Uh, Wicked, Son of a Witch, Lying
Among Men, and Watch your mouth,

359
00:15:03,812 --> 00:15:04,442
watch your language there.

360
00:15:05,132 --> 00:15:07,412
Oh, oh, you said Son of a Witch,
of a Witch, they're over there.

361
00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:09,192
Those guys over there,
they're Sons of Witches.

362
00:15:09,192 --> 00:15:09,452
That's Sons

363
00:15:09,452 --> 00:15:10,302
of Witches over there.

364
00:15:10,362 --> 00:15:11,332
Those Sons of Witches.

365
00:15:11,562 --> 00:15:13,722
Now, you got final thoughts on this movie?

366
00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:16,892
A lot, huh?

367
00:15:16,982 --> 00:15:21,862
A lot of final thoughts, but, uh,
first of all, who we did in, uh

368
00:15:22,002 --> 00:15:22,422
The Craft.

369
00:15:22,452 --> 00:15:22,602
The

370
00:15:22,602 --> 00:15:27,857
Craft, I mean, I think to tie it
all together, That's, that's my

371
00:15:27,907 --> 00:15:29,867
takeaway is she did an amazing job.

372
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,127
She's just a little girl.

373
00:15:31,457 --> 00:15:34,807
I was a little skeptical at first
being like really she's Dorothy.

374
00:15:34,887 --> 00:15:35,817
I don't know about this.

375
00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:39,657
Yeah, I'll give it a shot Watched
it and I was like, I love her.

376
00:15:39,657 --> 00:15:40,817
She's so cute.

377
00:15:40,847 --> 00:15:44,367
And she really does an amazing job the
acting I think she does a great job.

378
00:15:44,407 --> 00:15:44,887
She does.

379
00:15:44,897 --> 00:15:46,477
She's she's she's wonderful.

380
00:15:46,477 --> 00:15:47,107
She's amazing.

381
00:15:47,107 --> 00:15:47,677
She's awesome.

382
00:15:47,687 --> 00:15:52,987
I loved her in this movie Thank
you to the one time and only time

383
00:15:52,987 --> 00:15:54,767
director for making this movie.

384
00:15:54,847 --> 00:15:56,732
Yeah I gotta tell you

385
00:15:56,732 --> 00:15:59,752
though what the real horror is,
and this is my final thought, and

386
00:15:59,752 --> 00:16:02,372
it's Disney's marketing department.

387
00:16:03,732 --> 00:16:08,692
This film was about as well promoted
as a county fair and a thunderstorm,

388
00:16:08,702 --> 00:16:14,232
like really it was, like that's
what it was, and you gotta think it

389
00:16:14,232 --> 00:16:18,532
came out in the 80s, you got neon
colors and pastel and all that, and

390
00:16:18,532 --> 00:16:19,842
then here comes this dark fantasy.

391
00:16:20,162 --> 00:16:24,882
So they really didn't know what the
hell to do with it, and It's more Tim

392
00:16:24,892 --> 00:16:30,552
Burton than it was Walt Disney at a
time when Tim Burton wasn't around.

393
00:16:30,722 --> 00:16:32,512
Like, he wasn't doing
this kind of stuff yet.

394
00:16:32,512 --> 00:16:34,582
So, I gotta say that's, yeah.

395
00:16:34,802 --> 00:16:39,602
So, on that, the final note for
me is this is a cult classic.

396
00:16:39,612 --> 00:16:42,782
It is remembered because
it dared to be different.

397
00:16:42,822 --> 00:16:43,942
All you kids, listen.

398
00:16:45,242 --> 00:16:46,722
Dare to be different.

399
00:16:47,387 --> 00:16:50,507
At everything you do because you
can't get any weirder than this, okay?

400
00:16:51,797 --> 00:16:52,227
Thank you guys.

401
00:16:52,227 --> 00:16:55,727
Let's

402
00:16:55,852 --> 00:16:59,052
now it's time that we didn't
tell the people here that this is

403
00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:02,242
actually a double feature and we're
going to watch Hereditary now.

404
00:17:02,262 --> 00:17:04,062
That's A24's movie, Hereditary.

405
00:17:05,312 --> 00:17:10,442
Um, or did, or did you have other
plans for the Hereditary movie?

406
00:17:11,672 --> 00:17:16,212
Well, actually you're going to have
to meet me at a certain location.

407
00:17:16,432 --> 00:17:16,832
Oh man.

408
00:17:16,882 --> 00:17:19,752
And we'll meet, we'll, yeah, this
one's going to be on location.

409
00:17:20,657 --> 00:17:21,847
I'm a little worried about that.

410
00:17:21,947 --> 00:17:23,147
I'm gonna send you the address.

411
00:17:23,397 --> 00:17:24,307
And I'll meet you there.

412
00:17:24,407 --> 00:17:24,517
We

413
00:17:24,517 --> 00:17:25,317
gotta wear the same clothes?

414
00:17:25,317 --> 00:17:26,297
Are we going straight there?

415
00:17:26,327 --> 00:17:26,857
What's happening?

416
00:17:27,637 --> 00:17:28,077
Oh, we'll see.

417
00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:29,367
That's interesting.

418
00:17:29,367 --> 00:17:30,647
Alright, now I'm a little
worried about this.

419
00:17:30,657 --> 00:17:32,657
So we're not gonna watch Hereditary
here with the kids and stuff?

420
00:17:33,077 --> 00:17:33,987
Yeah, no.

421
00:17:33,997 --> 00:17:37,247
This one is one I had to
watch through my, my fingers.

422
00:17:37,247 --> 00:17:37,647
It's a great

423
00:17:37,647 --> 00:17:38,597
family movie though.

424
00:17:38,627 --> 00:17:39,667
I mean, it's all about family.

425
00:17:39,677 --> 00:17:40,807
It is all about family.

426
00:17:40,807 --> 00:17:41,297
That's true.

427
00:17:41,697 --> 00:17:42,447
Hereditary, yeah.

428
00:17:42,447 --> 00:17:42,911
It's all

429
00:17:42,911 --> 00:17:43,606
about family, but.

430
00:17:43,606 --> 00:17:45,227
Alright, let's get out there and see.

431
00:17:45,822 --> 00:17:49,212
Courtney, where have you led me to?

432
00:17:50,202 --> 00:17:51,332
Does this look familiar to you at all?

433
00:17:53,692 --> 00:17:55,092
Maybe the cemetery?

434
00:17:55,172 --> 00:17:55,922
I'm a little

435
00:17:56,282 --> 00:17:56,932
concerned.

436
00:17:59,922 --> 00:18:01,802
This looks really familiar.

437
00:18:01,802 --> 00:18:03,252
And you know what though?

438
00:18:03,292 --> 00:18:06,452
As I was driving up, today
it was supposed to be warm.

439
00:18:07,177 --> 00:18:07,737
Sunny?

440
00:18:08,837 --> 00:18:09,637
Closer I got.

441
00:18:09,677 --> 00:18:11,067
It got colder over here.

442
00:18:11,247 --> 00:18:11,907
It got darker.

443
00:18:12,827 --> 00:18:13,757
Yep, I can see like

444
00:18:13,787 --> 00:18:15,367
dark clouds rolled in right over us.

445
00:18:15,447 --> 00:18:16,597
Am I looking at?

446
00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:22,017
This is where they filmed the funeral
scene for Hereditary, is it not?

447
00:18:22,097 --> 00:18:22,207
Yeah,

448
00:18:23,047 --> 00:18:23,257
yeah.

449
00:18:23,707 --> 00:18:25,197
Oh my gosh, I got.

450
00:18:25,207 --> 00:18:25,387
We have

451
00:18:25,387 --> 00:18:28,117
a cemetery over here on our other side.

452
00:18:28,947 --> 00:18:29,578
Are we sitting on?

453
00:18:29,578 --> 00:18:30,639
And the view of the mountains.

454
00:18:30,639 --> 00:18:31,717
Are we sitting on bodies?

455
00:18:33,332 --> 00:18:33,702
It's possible.

456
00:18:33,772 --> 00:18:34,502
It's possible.

457
00:18:34,522 --> 00:18:34,812
Oh my

458
00:18:34,812 --> 00:18:35,282
gosh.

459
00:18:35,432 --> 00:18:36,262
With all due respect.

460
00:18:37,072 --> 00:18:39,852
Now we don't want to name where
this cemetery is, but we do want

461
00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:44,832
to say thank you to them for being,
it's beautiful out here, but yeah.

462
00:18:45,172 --> 00:18:45,362
It's no

463
00:18:45,362 --> 00:18:49,942
wonder that they like this location for
filming because the mountains are awesome.

464
00:18:49,952 --> 00:18:50,432
They are.

465
00:18:50,642 --> 00:18:53,872
And I wondered when watching it,
because I didn't know, but the mountains

466
00:18:53,942 --> 00:18:55,612
and things, it looked like Colorado.

467
00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:59,762
And I kept thinking maybe they
filmed this in Colorado, but

468
00:18:59,762 --> 00:19:01,232
I think Ari Aster likes Utah.

469
00:19:01,642 --> 00:19:03,642
Ari Aster really liked Utah right here.

470
00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:05,622
And there's, yeah, like
you said he had to.

471
00:19:05,712 --> 00:19:13,892
Um, this movie, we tried to find a through
line for Return to Oz and for Hereditary.

472
00:19:14,262 --> 00:19:16,492
And honestly, we just picked these
two movies because, I mean, it

473
00:19:16,492 --> 00:19:18,802
was, what, Return to Oz was creepy.

474
00:19:18,802 --> 00:19:19,652
We wanted to do it.

475
00:19:19,962 --> 00:19:25,722
And then we had, uh, Hereditary
and She had never seen Hereditary,

476
00:19:25,872 --> 00:19:30,852
and Novel Daybreak recommended
Hereditary, which I don't, honestly,

477
00:19:30,852 --> 00:19:31,832
we shouldn't say that because

478
00:19:34,202 --> 00:19:35,734
An employee at Novel One

479
00:19:35,734 --> 00:19:36,581
of the employees

480
00:19:36,582 --> 00:19:39,062
Recommended Hereditary, so

481
00:19:39,122 --> 00:19:41,892
He's like, I love horror movies, you
guys are doing Hereditary, right?

482
00:19:41,922 --> 00:19:46,102
And we're like Uh, well, actually, no,
we didn't have it on the list, but we

483
00:19:46,102 --> 00:19:47,252
had to give it a second look, right?

484
00:19:47,302 --> 00:19:47,442
Yeah.

485
00:19:47,572 --> 00:19:50,142
Because, well, let's figure
out where this fits in.

486
00:19:50,452 --> 00:19:53,792
And it may have felt like we threw
these two movies at the very end, like,

487
00:19:54,552 --> 00:19:57,542
we wanted them on the list, we wanted
to do them, but we weren't sure where

488
00:19:57,542 --> 00:19:59,202
they fit in, so we threw them together.

489
00:19:59,962 --> 00:20:04,642
But as we were watching Return to
Oz, Saturday at our live event,

490
00:20:05,152 --> 00:20:07,712
I was like, there's a lot of
headless stuff going on here.

491
00:20:07,812 --> 00:20:08,342
Yes.

492
00:20:08,892 --> 00:20:10,652
So I think there is a through line.

493
00:20:10,732 --> 00:20:13,132
I think you looked at me at one
point and you're like, that's it!

494
00:20:13,132 --> 00:20:16,452
And we both looked at each other
because we, we said, you know what?

495
00:20:16,952 --> 00:20:22,542
Hereditary's got a lot of different
kinds of headlessness that comes up.

496
00:20:23,032 --> 00:20:28,452
Now, this movie, if you
haven't seen it, it's,

497
00:20:30,732 --> 00:20:31,262
feel good.

498
00:20:31,442 --> 00:20:32,502
It's a laugh a minute, right?

499
00:20:32,502 --> 00:20:32,561
It's funny.

500
00:20:32,952 --> 00:20:33,662
It's a great flick.

501
00:20:33,692 --> 00:20:34,092
Oh, yeah.

502
00:20:34,122 --> 00:20:34,382
Huh?

503
00:20:34,502 --> 00:20:35,002
Oh, yeah.

504
00:20:35,362 --> 00:20:36,142
Family.

505
00:20:36,192 --> 00:20:38,042
Smile and ear to ear when
you're watching this movie.

506
00:20:38,242 --> 00:20:38,762
Am I right?

507
00:20:38,922 --> 00:20:43,652
Beautiful, loving family lives in
a beautiful mountain range home.

508
00:20:44,392 --> 00:20:44,832
I mean,

509
00:20:45,142 --> 00:20:46,202
it's all fun and games.

510
00:20:46,202 --> 00:20:46,532
Awesome

511
00:20:46,542 --> 00:20:47,792
tree house.

512
00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:48,272
Right.

513
00:20:48,322 --> 00:20:49,172
What more could you ask for?

514
00:20:49,882 --> 00:20:50,282
Great American family.

515
00:20:50,302 --> 00:20:56,202
If your idea of a good time revolves
around heart palpitations and sweating,

516
00:20:56,652 --> 00:20:58,592
then yes, you'll enjoy this movie.

517
00:20:58,592 --> 00:20:58,912
Yeah.

518
00:20:59,137 --> 00:21:02,327
But it's another A24 film
and it is a miserable watch.

519
00:21:02,707 --> 00:21:03,337
Once again.

520
00:21:03,447 --> 00:21:03,687
Yeah.

521
00:21:03,687 --> 00:21:06,417
Which is a common theme in the A24 movies.

522
00:21:06,647 --> 00:21:08,847
And hey, I mean that in
the best kind of way.

523
00:21:09,317 --> 00:21:09,897
Because.

524
00:21:10,287 --> 00:21:14,857
The atmosphere, everything from the
beginning of this movie is, we're

525
00:21:15,127 --> 00:21:18,977
sitting here, it feels, there's
an atmosphere even sitting here.

526
00:21:19,177 --> 00:21:20,687
I mean, we are in a cemetery, so.

527
00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:24,217
Which is where I find a lot of
peace and comfort, personally.

528
00:21:24,267 --> 00:21:24,697
It is,

529
00:21:24,777 --> 00:21:25,827
it is peaceful out here.

530
00:21:26,887 --> 00:21:31,117
Not, not that part though, not, not,
you can already tell in the beginning

531
00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:35,812
of this movie that, You know what?

532
00:21:36,272 --> 00:21:39,012
Did you have some more thoughts
on Return to Oz? Because

533
00:21:39,352 --> 00:21:41,542
Well, I will say, so the headless

534
00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:42,162
part.

535
00:21:42,162 --> 00:21:42,832
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

536
00:21:43,272 --> 00:21:47,412
I remember, so we kind of showed at
the event the, uh, the little golden

537
00:21:47,412 --> 00:21:49,212
books they had of Return to Oz.

538
00:21:49,232 --> 00:21:51,062
I used to have one when I was a kid.

539
00:21:51,682 --> 00:21:55,801
And, um, this may speak to my
morbid fascination with things.

540
00:21:55,802 --> 00:21:56,372
I don't know.

541
00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:59,312
But I remember being
obsessed with that book.

542
00:21:59,382 --> 00:22:03,052
I remember looking at
the pages so carefully.

543
00:22:03,312 --> 00:22:04,972
The cabinets full of heads.

544
00:22:05,607 --> 00:22:08,377
And then the part where they're
screaming so they had an illustrated

545
00:22:08,377 --> 00:22:10,917
version of these heads and
they're like Mouths are open.

546
00:22:11,167 --> 00:22:12,997
I remember staring at that.

547
00:22:13,247 --> 00:22:17,967
I was probably five years old and I
was just like, what is happening here?

548
00:22:18,347 --> 00:22:20,337
I had never seen the movie, not then.

549
00:22:20,627 --> 00:22:23,757
So I was like, I don't know
what this is, but this is not

550
00:22:23,757 --> 00:22:25,027
the Wizard of Oz that I know.

551
00:22:25,497 --> 00:22:32,006
And I'm looking at it real hard and I kept
thinking, am I allowed to look at this?

552
00:22:32,007 --> 00:22:32,637
Is this okay?

553
00:22:32,827 --> 00:22:33,417
I'm a kid.

554
00:22:33,417 --> 00:22:37,097
But I was fascinated with
the headless heads and the.

555
00:22:37,472 --> 00:22:41,372
And the princess, Mambi,
chasing her with no head.

556
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:41,712
Oh yeah.

557
00:22:41,792 --> 00:22:44,297
And she's, they're all
screaming, Dorothy Gale!

558
00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:44,992
Dorothy Gale!

559
00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:46,862
It is scary.

560
00:22:47,202 --> 00:22:50,142
A lot of adults there that night
said, Yeah, I could never watch

561
00:22:50,142 --> 00:22:51,062
this movie when I was a kid.

562
00:22:51,362 --> 00:22:54,172
I mean, even the kids there, I
mean, They had their mouths open.

563
00:22:54,172 --> 00:22:55,472
I saw yours at one point over there.

564
00:22:55,472 --> 00:22:55,562
Yeah, I

565
00:22:55,562 --> 00:22:56,422
took some pictures of my kids.

566
00:22:56,532 --> 00:22:56,612
That

567
00:22:56,632 --> 00:22:57,232
was wild.

568
00:22:57,442 --> 00:22:58,532
What was it, the wheelers got them?

569
00:22:59,012 --> 00:22:59,442
Maybe.

570
00:22:59,492 --> 00:22:59,981
I think it was.

571
00:22:59,981 --> 00:23:00,592
It was the wheelers.

572
00:23:00,962 --> 00:23:05,342
Maybe just the whole, dark,
uh, kind of feel of the film

573
00:23:05,352 --> 00:23:06,862
maybe that they had about it.

574
00:23:06,872 --> 00:23:08,272
They were just a little,
they were fascinated.

575
00:23:08,292 --> 00:23:11,092
And if you thought that was
dark, it's not as dark as this

576
00:23:11,682 --> 00:23:11,832
one.

577
00:23:11,832 --> 00:23:12,792
No, no.

578
00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:16,512
And I have many people who were
like, Oh yeah, I like horror movies.

579
00:23:16,512 --> 00:23:19,112
And then I mentioned this one and
they're like, Oh, couldn't do that one.

580
00:23:19,582 --> 00:23:20,332
Couldn't watch that.

581
00:23:20,412 --> 00:23:26,512
Now, you know what, this one, it's
got a weird backstory with the

582
00:23:26,522 --> 00:23:30,022
movie itself because at first it
didn't have the horror elements and

583
00:23:30,022 --> 00:23:31,982
it was just going to be a drama.

584
00:23:32,502 --> 00:23:33,482
And I believe that.

585
00:23:34,087 --> 00:23:39,136
Ari and, and, and whoever
else involved threw me in.

586
00:23:39,747 --> 00:23:41,927
wrote in the, the demon and stuff.

587
00:23:42,277 --> 00:23:43,897
And you'll get more, we'll get more.

588
00:23:44,747 --> 00:23:45,317
Deep dive

589
00:23:45,317 --> 00:23:45,797
into that.

590
00:23:45,807 --> 00:23:46,097
Yeah.

591
00:23:46,097 --> 00:23:47,398
And so what's the demon's name?

592
00:23:47,398 --> 00:23:47,734
Piamon.

593
00:23:47,734 --> 00:23:48,070
Piamon.

594
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:48,406
Piamon.

595
00:23:48,406 --> 00:23:49,077
All right.

596
00:23:49,077 --> 00:23:49,749
That's how

597
00:23:49,749 --> 00:23:50,756
I say it.

598
00:23:51,117 --> 00:23:51,597
Piemon.

599
00:23:51,767 --> 00:23:52,007
Piemon.

600
00:23:52,167 --> 00:23:52,827
Piemon.

601
00:23:53,577 --> 00:23:55,007
But this is

602
00:23:57,557 --> 00:23:58,367
right from the beginning.

603
00:23:58,367 --> 00:24:03,707
And, and you have, we did a pumpkin walk
and we saw a pumpkin with miniatures

604
00:24:03,707 --> 00:24:07,047
and me and Courtney both were like, Oh,
we're not getting close to that thing.

605
00:24:07,047 --> 00:24:10,747
Because the opening shot of
this is like, it's a miniature

606
00:24:10,777 --> 00:24:12,537
and it's tied into the movie.

607
00:24:12,787 --> 00:24:21,477
Big time later, but it's a miniature and
you, you have a long, long slow zoom and

608
00:24:21,737 --> 00:24:27,207
then there's that cool transition where
it goes to real people walking in and

609
00:24:27,217 --> 00:24:28,967
you got, you got the real stuff going on.

610
00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:35,072
Very symbolic of like, we're
going into this other world.

611
00:24:35,142 --> 00:24:40,812
This isn't reality exactly,
but kind of, I don't know, but

612
00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:44,172
it's so like the miniatures
themselves throughout the movie.

613
00:24:44,172 --> 00:24:45,552
They're so realistic.

614
00:24:45,612 --> 00:24:48,202
So when it comes and zooms
in and then it comes to life.

615
00:24:48,262 --> 00:24:48,582
Oh, yeah.

616
00:24:49,272 --> 00:24:51,562
The room that we're in it.

617
00:24:51,952 --> 00:24:52,252
Yeah.

618
00:24:52,432 --> 00:24:54,112
A lot of symbol, symbolism going on.

619
00:24:54,172 --> 00:24:56,362
There is, and you know what, I'll tell
you, I'll tell you this right now, we

620
00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:57,832
will not be able to get to all of it.

621
00:24:58,312 --> 00:24:58,432
Yeah.

622
00:24:58,432 --> 00:25:02,722
We will not be able to pull out every
single symbol because every time I watch

623
00:25:02,722 --> 00:25:06,222
this movie, I guarantee you I've seen
this movie, I've seen it 10 plus times.

624
00:25:06,782 --> 00:25:12,062
My best friend back in, back in, uh,
back from Memphis, Derek, he loves

625
00:25:12,062 --> 00:25:13,052
this movie and he's the one that.

626
00:25:13,187 --> 00:25:17,437
Put me onto this the first time and
he said COVID was a hell of a drug.

627
00:25:18,787 --> 00:25:20,637
He watched this movie about
12 times during COVID.

628
00:25:21,007 --> 00:25:25,857
But yeah, um, it is, it's,
it's an incredible watch.

629
00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:28,217
It's, it's a great watch,
but you do notice something

630
00:25:28,217 --> 00:25:29,497
different every single time.

631
00:25:29,507 --> 00:25:30,077
You see it.

632
00:25:32,847 --> 00:25:36,217
It's almost like if you don't pay
attention, you won't be scared.

633
00:25:37,397 --> 00:25:37,667
Yeah.

634
00:25:37,687 --> 00:25:37,767
Does

635
00:25:37,767 --> 00:25:38,337
it make sense?

636
00:25:38,637 --> 00:25:39,917
Like if you watch this
movie, you know, that's

637
00:25:39,927 --> 00:25:40,137
true.

638
00:25:40,167 --> 00:25:42,667
My mom is the one who, and
she likes horror movies too.

639
00:25:42,667 --> 00:25:43,757
She's she's all right with that.

640
00:25:43,757 --> 00:25:47,127
But I was like, this is probably of
all the lineup we've had in this.

641
00:25:48,372 --> 00:25:49,022
Series.

642
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,012
This one I was probably
the most freaked out.

643
00:25:52,022 --> 00:25:54,952
This is the one during watching it
I was the most freaked out, but uh,

644
00:25:54,972 --> 00:25:57,462
but I said something to my mom I'm
like, oh my gosh, have you seen this?

645
00:25:57,482 --> 00:25:59,342
And she's like, oh, yeah.

646
00:25:59,342 --> 00:25:59,651
Yeah.

647
00:25:59,652 --> 00:25:59,772
Yeah.

648
00:25:59,772 --> 00:26:00,502
I did see that one.

649
00:26:00,502 --> 00:26:02,222
It's alright.

650
00:26:02,222 --> 00:26:05,782
I didn't really get that scared and
I was like, well, did you see this?

651
00:26:06,192 --> 00:26:06,942
And did you see this?

652
00:26:06,972 --> 00:26:09,242
And she goes, Oh, I
didn't notice any of that.

653
00:26:09,332 --> 00:26:09,942
Yeah, see?

654
00:26:09,962 --> 00:26:11,237
I'm like, You weren't paying attention!

655
00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:12,402
You gotta watch it again!

656
00:26:12,642 --> 00:26:13,472
It's very subtle.

657
00:26:13,472 --> 00:26:14,972
There's so many subtle little things.

658
00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:19,142
And it, it, it is, uh, it,
it takes you off guard.

659
00:26:19,222 --> 00:26:21,222
It's a boring watch, if
you don't pay attention.

660
00:26:21,222 --> 00:26:21,622
I know.

661
00:26:21,662 --> 00:26:22,252
It really is.

662
00:26:22,252 --> 00:26:23,062
It's a boring watch.

663
00:26:23,122 --> 00:26:28,362
And that means, yeah, you've got to
really look at this movie from a different

664
00:26:28,362 --> 00:26:29,572
perspective when you're watching it.

665
00:26:29,912 --> 00:26:34,002
And sure, watch it for
what it is the first time.

666
00:26:34,212 --> 00:26:36,532
And then when you start thinking
about stuff, you go back and be

667
00:26:36,532 --> 00:26:37,482
like, Oh my gosh, they did this.

668
00:26:37,812 --> 00:26:38,832
Ari did all that for a reason.

669
00:26:38,852 --> 00:26:39,872
Like, it was all on purpose.

670
00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:41,362
It's brilliant.

671
00:26:41,382 --> 00:26:42,382
When we're It is brilliant.

672
00:26:42,382 --> 00:26:42,462
The

673
00:26:42,462 --> 00:26:48,992
opening of the movie basically
is when, uh, Toni Collette, her

674
00:26:48,992 --> 00:26:51,402
mom, in the movie has passed.

675
00:26:51,972 --> 00:26:53,412
And yeah, we'll get to Toni Collette.

676
00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:57,162
But her mom in the movie has passed
and they are in this cemetery right

677
00:26:57,162 --> 00:26:59,322
here where we sit, this mountain rank.

678
00:26:59,842 --> 00:27:00,872
Still a little weirded out.

679
00:27:01,892 --> 00:27:02,192
But!

680
00:27:03,047 --> 00:27:03,487
Yeah,

681
00:27:03,857 --> 00:27:04,217
they

682
00:27:04,227 --> 00:27:09,607
just kind of feel like it's just kind of
a your good old average old old lady dies

683
00:27:10,377 --> 00:27:14,277
it is and then you get to the
funeral here and there's even subtle

684
00:27:14,277 --> 00:27:20,067
references here because She even
says so many new strange faces here

685
00:27:20,447 --> 00:27:23,037
Yeah, kind of like where
did you all come from?

686
00:27:23,087 --> 00:27:26,097
I didn't see any of you in the
last several years and like,

687
00:27:26,217 --> 00:27:27,477
you know, kind of a vibe.

688
00:27:27,507 --> 00:27:27,967
Ever,

689
00:27:27,967 --> 00:27:30,857
yeah, like ever in your entire,
in my mom's the whole life.

690
00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:32,857
So who are these people that were here?

691
00:27:33,177 --> 00:27:38,077
First of all, you got these, uh,
unsettling, it's an unsettling eulogy

692
00:27:38,087 --> 00:27:40,322
really, like, The whole thing is weird.

693
00:27:40,332 --> 00:27:41,202
It's awkward.

694
00:27:41,832 --> 00:27:42,682
I've been to funerals.

695
00:27:42,692 --> 00:27:43,832
They're not fun.

696
00:27:43,842 --> 00:27:45,372
They're weird and awkward already.

697
00:27:45,592 --> 00:27:47,392
This one takes it to
another level already.

698
00:27:47,392 --> 00:27:47,722
Yeah.

699
00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:51,952
The people that there's certain faces
that you see later in the movie.

700
00:27:51,952 --> 00:27:54,602
So if you're not paying attention,
you'll see like, Oh, these people

701
00:27:54,602 --> 00:27:58,272
that are at this funeral, they kind
of give the, the little girl a look,

702
00:27:58,362 --> 00:28:00,822
this one guy, and you see him later.

703
00:28:00,862 --> 00:28:01,222
Yeah.

704
00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:02,171
Yeah.

705
00:28:02,172 --> 00:28:05,402
So you've got all this stuff already
setting up in the beginning opening scene

706
00:28:05,402 --> 00:28:07,582
that appears to be a normal funeral.

707
00:28:07,582 --> 00:28:07,651
Yeah.

708
00:28:07,992 --> 00:28:08,872
It is not.

709
00:28:09,622 --> 00:28:14,902
Uh, it's, Annie is Tony Collette's
character, so Annie's mom

710
00:28:14,922 --> 00:28:15,992
is the one that passes away.

711
00:28:16,172 --> 00:28:23,362
Charlie is the daughter, and you already
see that she's, she's a little quirky.

712
00:28:23,752 --> 00:28:24,072
Yeah.

713
00:28:24,092 --> 00:28:24,772
Is that the best way to put it?

714
00:28:24,772 --> 00:28:25,172
Yeah,

715
00:28:25,262 --> 00:28:25,752
yeah.

716
00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:28,722
She's probably, uh, born
with some abnormalities.

717
00:28:28,722 --> 00:28:31,521
Abnormalities, yep.

718
00:28:31,522 --> 00:28:36,002
And some, um, she talks about, like, uh,
they, they, uh, Are short to mention,

719
00:28:36,002 --> 00:28:38,812
like she takes out a candy bar and they're
like, Oh, does that have peanuts in it?

720
00:28:38,822 --> 00:28:39,632
She's got allergies.

721
00:28:39,832 --> 00:28:40,592
I mean, there's things.

722
00:28:41,322 --> 00:28:43,712
That's, that's a really interesting
thing that we'll talk about later when

723
00:28:43,712 --> 00:28:47,842
we talk about what may be going on
with the daughter, which is, you know,

724
00:28:47,852 --> 00:28:54,682
that she's born with some illnesses and
some abnormalities that kind of hint

725
00:28:54,712 --> 00:28:56,012
at maybe there's a connection there.

726
00:28:56,242 --> 00:28:56,892
It does.

727
00:28:56,942 --> 00:28:58,652
And she gives off the vibe.

728
00:28:58,652 --> 00:29:02,571
She's, she's the actor
played Charlie's girlfriend.

729
00:29:02,722 --> 00:29:06,492
Amazing too because the role for that
is everybody's so good tough, and

730
00:29:06,492 --> 00:29:13,102
it's an incredible performance but She
really does She she basically embodies.

731
00:29:15,242 --> 00:29:16,232
I don't want nothing to do with that.

732
00:29:16,242 --> 00:29:18,992
Like it's a weird It's a weird feeling
and you see more of that later on.

733
00:29:20,002 --> 00:29:21,252
Uh, Millie Shapiro.

734
00:29:21,262 --> 00:29:25,642
That's who plays charlie Did you
know she had a did you know that?

735
00:29:26,902 --> 00:29:32,192
The sound that is now
Horror, Horror, Iconic.

736
00:29:32,192 --> 00:29:33,236
Yeah.

737
00:29:35,417 --> 00:29:36,407
She had to perfect that.

738
00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:37,417
She learned how to do that.

739
00:29:37,557 --> 00:29:39,137
Yeah, it reminds me of The Grudge.

740
00:29:39,187 --> 00:29:39,907
It does.

741
00:29:40,077 --> 00:29:42,917
Or like, uh, yeah, I remember
when The Grudge came out.

742
00:29:42,927 --> 00:29:46,807
This movie, for some reason, it
kept bringing up Grudge vibes.

743
00:29:46,917 --> 00:29:48,817
For, you know, I can't
exactly pinpoint why.

744
00:29:49,127 --> 00:29:53,267
But that sound from The Grudge that
was, and everybody was hearing it.

745
00:29:53,287 --> 00:29:54,087
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

746
00:29:54,087 --> 00:29:56,027
And it would creep, it
would like freak us out.

747
00:29:56,557 --> 00:29:57,777
Um, that became that.

748
00:29:57,777 --> 00:30:00,972
And I swear, the night that we
watched it, The middle of the

749
00:30:00,972 --> 00:30:02,062
night while I was sleeping.

750
00:30:02,062 --> 00:30:02,252
Same.

751
00:30:02,252 --> 00:30:02,982
I swear I heard it.

752
00:30:03,002 --> 00:30:03,362
Same.

753
00:30:03,362 --> 00:30:03,552
And I

754
00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:06,612
guarantee you other people here,
I don't know how that happens.

755
00:30:06,982 --> 00:30:07,392
What was that?

756
00:30:07,422 --> 00:30:08,252
But it's wild.

757
00:30:08,312 --> 00:30:09,562
It's that sound effect.

758
00:30:10,567 --> 00:30:11,497
I thought I just heard a deer.

759
00:30:12,297 --> 00:30:13,877
Man, I can't, I'm, I'm,

760
00:30:16,067 --> 00:30:17,987
what are we doing out here in a cemetery?

761
00:30:19,577 --> 00:30:21,197
It'll be like right
behind you in your ear.

762
00:30:21,847 --> 00:30:22,917
Yeah, that's brilliant though.

763
00:30:22,937 --> 00:30:25,417
I mean, if you really want to get
into somebody's psyche and be like

764
00:30:25,457 --> 00:30:29,897
the psychological thrillers like this
that are just, uh, they dig deep,

765
00:30:30,017 --> 00:30:32,067
burrowed into your subconscious.

766
00:30:32,407 --> 00:30:33,137
You know what?

767
00:30:33,227 --> 00:30:35,807
Let me go off on a rant here
for just a minute because

768
00:30:37,987 --> 00:30:40,367
I want to say back in my day,
but it's not that I'm not that

769
00:30:40,367 --> 00:30:43,677
old, but there was a time for us.

770
00:30:44,807 --> 00:30:48,527
Where horror movies at least had the
decency to show you who's gonna get

771
00:30:48,927 --> 00:30:51,667
sliced up and diced up at the beginning.

772
00:30:52,207 --> 00:30:58,146
Like, you knew who it was, but now we've
got this psychological warfare that Yeah,

773
00:30:59,527 --> 00:31:01,677
it'll stay with you long after.

774
00:31:01,817 --> 00:31:05,482
Instead of a 90 minute Slash your film.

775
00:31:05,712 --> 00:31:06,802
We know what's gonna happen.

776
00:31:06,802 --> 00:31:07,482
We see it.

777
00:31:07,852 --> 00:31:09,432
We can watch the two minute trailer.

778
00:31:09,762 --> 00:31:11,752
And we see the whole movie
in the two minute trailer.

779
00:31:11,992 --> 00:31:12,642
No, no, no, no, no.

780
00:31:12,642 --> 00:31:13,532
You gotta sit here.

781
00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:15,962
And basically we're
getting swindled out there.

782
00:31:16,512 --> 00:31:19,162
We're getting swindled out and we're
getting brought in here like this is

783
00:31:19,162 --> 00:31:20,792
a family drama movie, like I said.

784
00:31:21,092 --> 00:31:24,002
And then the pants scared
off of us because, man.

785
00:31:24,002 --> 00:31:24,392
Yeah.

786
00:31:24,452 --> 00:31:27,861
I couldn't have told from the
trailer or from the poster.

787
00:31:29,852 --> 00:31:32,822
I would not be able to look at it and be
like, okay, I know what's happening here.

788
00:31:32,822 --> 00:31:34,232
I know who the killer is.

789
00:31:34,712 --> 00:31:36,152
I know what's going to happen.

790
00:31:36,762 --> 00:31:37,722
I would never have been able to do that.

791
00:31:37,722 --> 00:31:46,612
So, past the cemetery, we're at
the, basically, The next little bit

792
00:31:46,612 --> 00:31:52,672
of the movie and this is where the
creepiness it amps up quite a bit

793
00:31:52,982 --> 00:31:53,262
Yeah,

794
00:31:53,292 --> 00:31:56,532
you got Annie making these tiny
little dollhouses She's getting

795
00:31:56,572 --> 00:32:01,322
I am absolutely fascinated by I went to
like a miniatures museum in chicago one

796
00:32:01,322 --> 00:32:04,982
time They had an exhibit with a like a
whole room full of miniature dollhouses

797
00:32:04,982 --> 00:32:09,362
and stuff and I was fascinated Things
that are like teeny tiny but look real.

798
00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:12,002
That was like the most Probably one
of my favorite parts of the movie.

799
00:32:12,012 --> 00:32:13,932
I was like, oh, this is amazing.

800
00:32:13,952 --> 00:32:14,372
Look at this.

801
00:32:14,492 --> 00:32:15,312
She's an artist.

802
00:32:15,322 --> 00:32:16,372
Those things were incredible.

803
00:32:16,372 --> 00:32:18,462
Those little, the miniatures
they had on set were awesome.

804
00:32:18,662 --> 00:32:22,002
Honestly, the scene later on where it
all gets torn up, I go, ooh, I cringed.

805
00:32:22,002 --> 00:32:22,582
I did too.

806
00:32:23,082 --> 00:32:23,382
I was like,

807
00:32:23,402 --> 00:32:28,102
no, but that's, that, that's
indicative of a, a, a mother artist.

808
00:32:28,102 --> 00:32:31,432
You know, you never have time to
really like, Devote to the craft.

809
00:32:31,442 --> 00:32:33,582
So I really felt for her in that moment.

810
00:32:34,002 --> 00:32:37,362
But yeah, you got to pay attention
to those scenes though, because

811
00:32:37,512 --> 00:32:42,752
each one is like a little clue and
it'll narrow in on that and it'll

812
00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:44,222
show you something that's going on.

813
00:32:44,242 --> 00:32:46,382
And you're like, wait, what does
that have to do with anything?

814
00:32:46,402 --> 00:32:47,742
And you see it throw back.

815
00:32:47,952 --> 00:32:48,152
And it

816
00:32:48,152 --> 00:32:49,212
gets darker and darker.

817
00:32:49,212 --> 00:32:51,852
And basically these are little
shrines that she's building

818
00:32:51,852 --> 00:32:53,952
towards her family dysfunction.

819
00:32:53,952 --> 00:32:54,852
I think is what it is.

820
00:32:54,852 --> 00:32:58,072
It's like, She's building these
little things and she knows it in

821
00:32:58,072 --> 00:33:02,242
her head or maybe it's some other
supernatural, whatever's going on.

822
00:33:02,242 --> 00:33:02,832
I thought maybe this

823
00:33:02,832 --> 00:33:07,252
was just her, her artistic expression
and way of like processing grief,

824
00:33:07,422 --> 00:33:11,662
processing what traumatic things
she'd experienced in her life.

825
00:33:11,752 --> 00:33:13,592
And, I mean, that's kind of brilliant.

826
00:33:13,642 --> 00:33:13,982
Which, yeah.

827
00:33:14,357 --> 00:33:19,827
That's you are a connoisseur of those
kind of things, don't you know a lot of

828
00:33:19,827 --> 00:33:20,777
respect for that?

829
00:33:20,777 --> 00:33:24,257
Because that's what we do in, uh, in,
uh, integrated processing technique.

830
00:33:24,317 --> 00:33:25,657
Um, the healing work that I do.

831
00:33:25,947 --> 00:33:29,157
I don't necessarily, uh,
The way that it works.

832
00:33:29,177 --> 00:33:32,077
It's not with art, but I
have partnered it with art.

833
00:33:32,167 --> 00:33:35,477
So that people can paint out
their feelings, emotions and grief

834
00:33:35,477 --> 00:33:37,887
and you know, whatever heaviness
that they've got going on.

835
00:33:37,897 --> 00:33:40,077
So I had a lot of respect for
that part of the movie thinking,

836
00:33:40,077 --> 00:33:43,177
Oh, she's as morbid as it seems.

837
00:33:43,437 --> 00:33:45,927
Cause I could see the husband
when in certain parts, when

838
00:33:45,927 --> 00:33:47,482
certain traumatic things have

839
00:33:47,482 --> 00:33:48,196
happened

840
00:33:48,197 --> 00:33:50,407
and he's like, what are you doing?

841
00:33:51,927 --> 00:33:53,067
What if our son sees this?

842
00:33:53,327 --> 00:33:54,287
You know, he lived through it.

843
00:33:54,317 --> 00:33:58,292
And she's like, She's doing it as if
she has no problem with it at all.

844
00:33:58,672 --> 00:33:59,962
Like, it's not traumatic to her.

845
00:33:59,962 --> 00:34:01,632
I think that's kind of amazing.

846
00:34:01,642 --> 00:34:02,112
Even,

847
00:34:02,312 --> 00:34:04,132
the one that really bothered
me was the telephone pole.

848
00:34:04,922 --> 00:34:05,792
The telephone pole.

849
00:34:06,912 --> 00:34:07,712
And she was just doing it.

850
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:09,802
She was painting the blood on the asphalt.

851
00:34:09,832 --> 00:34:11,652
Yeah, and now And I was like,

852
00:34:12,622 --> 00:34:12,642
UGH!

853
00:34:12,672 --> 00:34:16,862
So, so, don't forget about
Peter, their teenage son.

854
00:34:16,872 --> 00:34:17,922
He's got his own issues.

855
00:34:18,477 --> 00:34:24,407
And he's the one who goes
to the party with Charlie.

856
00:34:25,957 --> 00:34:30,607
Charlie has a reaction because she
eats nuts, something with nuts in it.

857
00:34:30,607 --> 00:34:30,687
Yeah.

858
00:34:31,007 --> 00:34:32,016
The cake has walnuts in it.

859
00:34:32,017 --> 00:34:32,557
The cake.

860
00:34:32,567 --> 00:34:32,857
Yep.

861
00:34:33,037 --> 00:34:33,487
And then.

862
00:34:34,807 --> 00:34:36,577
The, she goes into the, what is that

863
00:34:36,577 --> 00:34:36,757
called?

864
00:34:36,757 --> 00:34:38,367
Hy Hyper something Shock.

865
00:34:38,777 --> 00:34:39,542
Oh yeah.

866
00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:39,543
Yeah.

867
00:34:39,548 --> 00:34:40,247
You need an EpiPen.

868
00:34:40,457 --> 00:34:40,907
Basically.

869
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:42,257
You should have EpiPen and Jo.

870
00:34:42,437 --> 00:34:42,707
Yeah.

871
00:34:42,707 --> 00:34:43,222
They didn't

872
00:34:43,222 --> 00:34:43,662
have an EpiPen

873
00:34:44,237 --> 00:34:44,417
with them.

874
00:34:44,417 --> 00:34:44,432
I dunno.

875
00:34:44,432 --> 00:34:44,507
I

876
00:34:44,507 --> 00:34:46,547
kept shouting that at the
TV screen the whole time.

877
00:34:46,547 --> 00:34:47,537
I'm like, where's your EpiPen?

878
00:34:47,537 --> 00:34:47,597
Yeah.

879
00:34:48,467 --> 00:34:48,677
Really?

880
00:34:48,677 --> 00:34:48,977
She needs it.

881
00:34:48,977 --> 00:34:49,037
You

882
00:34:49,037 --> 00:34:51,587
think you would think somebody had
a one or somebody at that party.

883
00:34:51,587 --> 00:34:55,577
But then again, yeah, we, we know that
this is gonna go off the rails anyway.

884
00:34:55,607 --> 00:34:55,667
Yeah.

885
00:34:55,667 --> 00:34:57,197
And this is where we
really go off the rails.

886
00:34:57,197 --> 00:35:02,347
And if we haven't been creeped out
already, well we get a little gore.

887
00:35:02,527 --> 00:35:02,557
Oh.

888
00:35:04,077 --> 00:35:08,477
It was pretty horrific, that whole
scene, driving down the road,

889
00:35:08,777 --> 00:35:10,927
swerving to not hit the deer.

890
00:35:11,517 --> 00:35:15,067
I was like, I don't think
I breathed the entire time.

891
00:35:15,527 --> 00:35:20,377
And then when he's sitting in the
car and everybody's just frozen,

892
00:35:21,027 --> 00:35:22,677
it's like prolonged, right?

893
00:35:22,677 --> 00:35:27,136
Like that scene just goes on
forever and you're like, no, no, no.

894
00:35:27,217 --> 00:35:30,517
I just remember sitting on
my couch just being like, no,

895
00:35:30,517 --> 00:35:32,582
he's going to Rearview mirror.

896
00:35:32,902 --> 00:35:33,102
Yeah.

897
00:35:33,382 --> 00:35:33,702
Into the

898
00:35:33,702 --> 00:35:34,212
backseat.

899
00:35:34,652 --> 00:35:35,921
And I was like, no, no,

900
00:35:35,922 --> 00:35:36,142
no.

901
00:35:36,392 --> 00:35:37,332
And he doesn't though.

902
00:35:37,917 --> 00:35:38,287
Like, they,

903
00:35:38,287 --> 00:35:40,056
it's,

904
00:35:40,637 --> 00:35:46,297
I can't imagine, the way that that's made
and filmed, it's, that's more realistic.

905
00:35:46,297 --> 00:35:50,277
Now, this is realistic horror,
is what this is, because,

906
00:35:51,547 --> 00:35:52,667
it hits you right in the feels.

907
00:35:52,737 --> 00:35:52,957
It

908
00:35:53,047 --> 00:35:55,167
does, and you're like,
oh, what would I do?

909
00:35:55,197 --> 00:35:56,666
Or, oh, what, what,

910
00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:59,911
I don't, oh, the trauma of living
through that, that poor boy.

911
00:36:00,172 --> 00:36:01,942
I just kept thinking, Oh, that poor kid.

912
00:36:01,942 --> 00:36:01,992
And

913
00:36:01,992 --> 00:36:04,702
that's only the beginning of the
trauma in this movie, because

914
00:36:04,742 --> 00:36:05,902
yeah, that's just where it begins.

915
00:36:06,272 --> 00:36:11,622
It is really that that is kind of where
it begins because after that, uh, we,

916
00:36:11,672 --> 00:36:20,562
we start delving even deeper into just
misery, grief, and we get to see the most,

917
00:36:20,832 --> 00:36:25,062
the performance of Tony Collette from.

918
00:36:25,812 --> 00:36:28,682
The beginning of this movie,
all the way, how she goes She's

919
00:36:28,682 --> 00:36:30,212
incredible, isn't she?

920
00:36:30,272 --> 00:36:32,392
Who won the Oscar that year?

921
00:36:33,312 --> 00:36:33,642
Oh, I don't

922
00:36:33,642 --> 00:36:33,692
know.

923
00:36:33,712 --> 00:36:34,432
Exactly.

924
00:36:34,622 --> 00:36:35,972
And Toni Collette should have.

925
00:36:36,722 --> 00:36:39,132
And she didn't even get a
nomination, I believe, for that.

926
00:36:39,132 --> 00:36:39,202
She's

927
00:36:39,452 --> 00:36:40,232
incredible.

928
00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,212
Did you ever see United States of Tara?

929
00:36:42,522 --> 00:36:42,882
I did, yeah.

930
00:36:42,882 --> 00:36:44,171
The TV series that she's in?

931
00:36:44,352 --> 00:36:49,852
Her ability to switch
personalities, voice, her entire

932
00:36:49,852 --> 00:36:51,262
facial expression, everything.

933
00:36:52,437 --> 00:36:54,907
is incredible and you see that
in this movie a couple of times.

934
00:36:55,007 --> 00:36:55,787
Oh, a lot of times.

935
00:36:55,787 --> 00:36:57,787
She just switches and she's different.

936
00:36:57,837 --> 00:36:59,547
Um, I was trying to dress like her.

937
00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:02,007
I was like, I'm going to
dress for the movie today.

938
00:37:02,007 --> 00:37:03,767
And then I realized, well,
that's just kind of how I

939
00:37:03,767 --> 00:37:04,907
dress all the time, actually.

940
00:37:04,927 --> 00:37:05,137
Yeah.

941
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:05,847
Yeah.

942
00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:08,557
The way that she's dressed
as mom in this movie.

943
00:37:08,697 --> 00:37:13,627
And Toni Collette, I just got to tell
you that we're sitting right here in the

944
00:37:13,627 --> 00:37:19,302
cemetery and this is where All validity
for the Oscars should be buried right here

945
00:37:19,322 --> 00:37:21,412
because she's not even being nominated.

946
00:37:21,412 --> 00:37:25,272
I don't care about no rules about
the, oh, it came out at a certain

947
00:37:25,272 --> 00:37:26,912
time of the year or this and that.

948
00:37:26,912 --> 00:37:27,641
No, no, no, no, no.

949
00:37:27,642 --> 00:37:32,792
She should be an honorary Oscar
member winner for that performance.

950
00:37:33,952 --> 00:37:34,192
But yeah,

951
00:37:34,192 --> 00:37:34,712
go ahead.

952
00:37:35,172 --> 00:37:35,602
That's my

953
00:37:35,642 --> 00:37:37,732
The grief that she's expressing.

954
00:37:37,772 --> 00:37:38,762
I still feel it.

955
00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:42,972
It's cellular level grief.

956
00:37:43,032 --> 00:37:45,112
If I Just pouring out of her body.

957
00:37:45,912 --> 00:37:46,862
Grieving for her daughter.

958
00:37:46,902 --> 00:37:49,632
If I saw her on the street, I
would give Toni Collette a hug.

959
00:37:50,612 --> 00:37:51,162
Like I would.

960
00:37:51,162 --> 00:37:55,733
I would be like, Oh my gosh, I am so
sorry for what you've been through.

961
00:37:55,733 --> 00:37:57,087
You lost your daughter.

962
00:37:57,087 --> 00:37:58,101
I'm so sorry.

963
00:37:58,101 --> 00:38:00,131
Your mother and then your daughter.

964
00:38:00,132 --> 00:38:01,182
But pay attention to that.

965
00:38:02,232 --> 00:38:07,472
That, um, it's on her necklace in
the funeral scene of her mom, uh, a

966
00:38:07,472 --> 00:38:11,302
necklace pro possibly, you know, we
assume was given to her by her mother.

967
00:38:11,342 --> 00:38:11,672
Yeah.

968
00:38:11,792 --> 00:38:16,042
So, that same sigil, that same
symbol, is on the telephone pole.

969
00:38:17,022 --> 00:38:17,262
And,

970
00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:17,592
right?

971
00:38:17,632 --> 00:38:18,792
Let's get into this now.

972
00:38:18,792 --> 00:38:23,722
Let's get into the, to the supernatural,
to the, whatever, is it cult?

973
00:38:23,752 --> 00:38:24,142
What is it?

974
00:38:24,152 --> 00:38:24,922
What's happening here?

975
00:38:25,032 --> 00:38:27,562
I think we're meant to
believe that this is a coven.

976
00:38:27,652 --> 00:38:28,102
Coven.

977
00:38:28,432 --> 00:38:32,692
That her, she discovers her mother was
a part of, and this woman, uh, that

978
00:38:32,692 --> 00:38:34,412
she meets in the grief counseling.

979
00:38:34,912 --> 00:38:38,652
Uh, she goes and she talks
about her mother's life, and

980
00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:40,492
her brother committing suicide.

981
00:38:40,512 --> 00:38:44,182
Um, and she doesn't, she does say,
you have to pay attention, again.

982
00:38:44,702 --> 00:38:50,872
She says in that scene, um, he was
trying to put people in, in him.

983
00:38:51,102 --> 00:38:51,362
Or something like that.

984
00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:51,932
Oh, yeah.

985
00:38:51,982 --> 00:38:52,512
The quote.

986
00:38:52,522 --> 00:38:54,811
She goes, he committed suicide because,
uh, he, they thought he was his brother.

987
00:38:54,812 --> 00:38:56,099
She put voices in him.

988
00:38:56,099 --> 00:38:56,246
Yeah.

989
00:38:56,397 --> 00:38:56,637
Yeah.

990
00:38:56,707 --> 00:38:58,537
She put voices in him or put it in him.

991
00:38:58,547 --> 00:38:59,087
You find out

992
00:38:59,127 --> 00:39:02,087
later what that really was
and what was really going on.

993
00:39:03,197 --> 00:39:04,707
Or at least what a lot of theories are.

994
00:39:04,707 --> 00:39:09,367
I mean, I think that nothing is laid
out quite so simple in this movie.

995
00:39:09,367 --> 00:39:13,717
So you have to kind of assume
and piece together the puzzles.

996
00:39:14,187 --> 00:39:19,677
But basically that this coven I
prefer to call it a cult, okay?

997
00:39:19,677 --> 00:39:24,587
Because a coven, to me, is
something lovingly pieced together.

998
00:39:24,587 --> 00:39:25,147
Yes, yes, yes.

999
00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:28,257
Love and light, and I would rather
keep it that way in my mind.

1000
00:39:28,907 --> 00:39:34,267
But this is definitely, um,
basically a demon summoning cult

1001
00:39:34,777 --> 00:39:36,117
that her mother had been a part of.

1002
00:39:36,767 --> 00:39:38,587
And this woman that
she meets in the movie.

1003
00:39:39,847 --> 00:39:45,577
And what they really are doing is
they're trying to revive or to possess

1004
00:39:46,257 --> 00:39:48,937
someone with the demon of Piedmont.

1005
00:39:49,007 --> 00:39:49,417
Okay.

1006
00:39:49,977 --> 00:39:51,217
Who is a king of hell.

1007
00:39:52,427 --> 00:39:52,627
Oh!

1008
00:39:52,797 --> 00:39:56,297
He's one of Lucifer's most loyal demons.

1009
00:39:56,557 --> 00:39:56,807
Okay.

1010
00:39:56,807 --> 00:39:56,827
Of

1011
00:39:56,997 --> 00:39:57,377
hell.

1012
00:39:57,607 --> 00:39:58,637
This is a real demon.

1013
00:39:58,817 --> 00:40:00,047
This is, this is real.

1014
00:40:00,047 --> 00:40:00,407
Well,

1015
00:40:00,417 --> 00:40:00,897
real.

1016
00:40:00,942 --> 00:40:04,882
Well, yeah, but they, I'm, well, we've had
other movies where they've made up stuff.

1017
00:40:05,012 --> 00:40:05,212
This is

1018
00:40:05,222 --> 00:40:06,747
something that is, is in folklore.

1019
00:40:06,747 --> 00:40:07,631
The Blair Witch was made up.

1020
00:40:07,632 --> 00:40:07,902
Yeah.

1021
00:40:07,952 --> 00:40:08,772
Like, this is

1022
00:40:08,772 --> 00:40:09,692
actually in real.

1023
00:40:10,222 --> 00:40:13,522
Yeah, and that sigil is
from ancient scripts.

1024
00:40:13,792 --> 00:40:18,472
Like, that's why it's a little bit like, I
almost wish it was made up for the movie.

1025
00:40:18,532 --> 00:40:18,892
Yeah.

1026
00:40:19,327 --> 00:40:23,277
When you're like kind of playing
around with symbols and you know,

1027
00:40:23,277 --> 00:40:26,477
you're putting it on the telephone pole
and you're putting it in the movie I

1028
00:40:26,477 --> 00:40:27,557
feel like you're asking for trouble.

1029
00:40:27,557 --> 00:40:28,037
Oh, yeah.

1030
00:40:28,437 --> 00:40:28,717
Oh, yeah

1031
00:40:31,757 --> 00:40:36,057
Yeah, so You see that symbol throughout
the whole movie it's like etched

1032
00:40:36,057 --> 00:40:40,477
into the attic where the body was
found Skipping around a little bit.

1033
00:40:40,487 --> 00:40:40,707
That's

1034
00:40:40,707 --> 00:40:40,927
fine.

1035
00:40:40,937 --> 00:40:44,377
We don't have to go in order I want
to talk about the movie just overall

1036
00:40:44,397 --> 00:40:48,557
cuz yeah, there's all these symbols
add up You To what's really going on.

1037
00:40:49,657 --> 00:40:49,867
So, Heman

1038
00:40:50,087 --> 00:40:54,457
is a, he's a, uh, king of,
one of the kings of Solomon,

1039
00:40:54,477 --> 00:40:55,507
from the book of Solomon.

1040
00:40:56,087 --> 00:41:00,227
And, um, in like the Greek version
of the book that talks about him.

1041
00:41:00,237 --> 00:41:02,157
There's a lot of, like, references of him.

1042
00:41:02,347 --> 00:41:05,577
Some mention him with a woman's
face, and some of them don't

1043
00:41:05,807 --> 00:41:07,067
mention him with a face at all.

1044
00:41:07,777 --> 00:41:10,457
But the pictures that we have
of him, he's riding a camel

1045
00:41:11,077 --> 00:41:13,337
and he has three severed heads.

1046
00:41:13,527 --> 00:41:13,907
Okay.

1047
00:41:14,567 --> 00:41:19,637
So it's interesting because I wonder,
you know, is the sacrifice to Piedmon or

1048
00:41:19,707 --> 00:41:23,807
something to do with summoning Piedmon
have to do with three severed heads?

1049
00:41:24,297 --> 00:41:26,197
Because by the end of
the movie, we have three

1050
00:41:26,867 --> 00:41:27,037
severed

1051
00:41:27,037 --> 00:41:27,787
heads, right?

1052
00:41:28,617 --> 00:41:30,087
See, that's what we have you here for.

1053
00:41:30,957 --> 00:41:31,847
That kind of insight.

1054
00:41:32,467 --> 00:41:33,617
It's very interesting.

1055
00:41:33,687 --> 00:41:34,957
And you see the triangle?

1056
00:41:35,127 --> 00:41:35,437
Yes.

1057
00:41:35,497 --> 00:41:36,607
the triangle quite a bit.

1058
00:41:36,637 --> 00:41:44,957
It's in the, in the floor of the grandma's
room and, um, when the woman, um, that

1059
00:41:44,957 --> 00:41:48,377
she meets, uh, has it in her altar space.

1060
00:41:48,387 --> 00:41:51,777
When you see it, she's knocking on the
outside and she doesn't get inside, but

1061
00:41:51,787 --> 00:41:53,667
you can see the inside of her apartment.

1062
00:41:54,157 --> 00:41:55,117
has the triangle.

1063
00:41:55,957 --> 00:41:58,777
That's, uh, representative
of like a conjuring.

1064
00:41:59,287 --> 00:42:04,727
So, uh, there's a lot of like little
references, those, those words etched

1065
00:42:04,727 --> 00:42:07,617
into the wall behind Charlie's bed.

1066
00:42:07,897 --> 00:42:09,667
And she even makes that
in the miniatures, right?

1067
00:42:09,677 --> 00:42:09,697
Yeah.

1068
00:42:09,707 --> 00:42:14,297
She's even like writing that tiny
little, so you have the word satiny.

1069
00:42:14,787 --> 00:42:18,097
Which is, uh, basically a
summoning word for necromancy,

1070
00:42:18,127 --> 00:42:19,597
like, bringing back to life.

1071
00:42:19,617 --> 00:42:19,987
Okay.

1072
00:42:20,597 --> 00:42:25,957
Um, these are words that, uh,
you also hear the woman shouting

1073
00:42:25,967 --> 00:42:27,527
at Peter when he's at school.

1074
00:42:27,957 --> 00:42:30,187
And she's, like, doing that spell on him.

1075
00:42:30,477 --> 00:42:36,377
She's dispelling his spirit from his body
to make way for Piedmon to To use his

1076
00:42:36,377 --> 00:42:42,147
body, but it's believed a lot of people
watching this movie said that Charlie,

1077
00:42:43,007 --> 00:42:47,807
the girl, was actually, uh, Piedmont.

1078
00:42:48,197 --> 00:42:53,007
Like, she was born with Piedmont's
spirit, um, from this coven, so the

1079
00:42:53,017 --> 00:42:58,237
mom had grabbed hold of her, got her
claws in her, as, um, Annie says in

1080
00:42:58,237 --> 00:43:01,832
that, uh, One scene, so she's like,
my mom had got her claws in Charlie.

1081
00:43:01,832 --> 00:43:04,742
She didn't get my son, because
they were estranged at the time.

1082
00:43:04,762 --> 00:43:04,832
Uh

1083
00:43:04,832 --> 00:43:05,112
huh.

1084
00:43:05,622 --> 00:43:10,192
And I think the grandma, Annie's
mother, was trying to possess her son,

1085
00:43:11,272 --> 00:43:15,172
and that's why he committed suicide,
from trying to put voices in her head.

1086
00:43:15,172 --> 00:43:16,112
Inside of him.

1087
00:43:16,542 --> 00:43:17,572
That's, that's an amazing

1088
00:43:17,692 --> 00:43:23,167
So this cult was actually, you know,
just trying to get this demon, They're

1089
00:43:23,167 --> 00:43:27,667
all a cult of this demon, Piedmon, and
they're trying to get him, uh, a body.

1090
00:43:27,877 --> 00:43:28,007
Yeah.

1091
00:43:28,237 --> 00:43:29,327
But he needs a male body.

1092
00:43:29,457 --> 00:43:29,727
A vessel.

1093
00:43:30,087 --> 00:43:30,877
He needs a vessel.

1094
00:43:30,877 --> 00:43:31,897
He needs to be male.

1095
00:43:32,137 --> 00:43:33,817
Charlie ended up being born a female.

1096
00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:37,287
So you see that scene in the miniatures
where she's trying to feed the baby.

1097
00:43:37,287 --> 00:43:39,357
You see the mom, like, trying
to breastfeed the baby.

1098
00:43:39,957 --> 00:43:40,401
Yes, yes.

1099
00:43:40,492 --> 00:43:40,712
She's

1100
00:43:40,712 --> 00:43:46,582
like trying to, she was trying to
do all of the rituals and summoning

1101
00:43:46,902 --> 00:43:50,452
spells and whatever you want to
call it to, uh, to get the baby

1102
00:43:50,452 --> 00:43:52,922
possessed with Piedmon's spirit.

1103
00:43:52,962 --> 00:43:54,932
So he, it was successful with Charlie.

1104
00:43:55,152 --> 00:43:57,202
Charlie was Piedmon.

1105
00:43:59,242 --> 00:44:04,462
And then when she died, which
was actually planned, hence the

1106
00:44:05,222 --> 00:44:06,782
sigil on the telephone pole.

1107
00:44:06,792 --> 00:44:07,212
Yeah, absolutely.

1108
00:44:07,222 --> 00:44:11,622
It was like made to happen so that the
spirit would be free to then embody Peter.

1109
00:44:11,712 --> 00:44:15,112
So the whole thing was getting
Peter ready for him to be possessed.

1110
00:44:15,477 --> 00:44:15,907
with this demon.

1111
00:44:17,067 --> 00:44:17,767
Wow.

1112
00:44:18,217 --> 00:44:18,837
There you go.

1113
00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:19,637
Look at this.

1114
00:44:19,797 --> 00:44:21,647
Watch the movie first before
you listen to all that.

1115
00:44:21,787 --> 00:44:24,077
Yeah, because I just
spoiled it all for you.

1116
00:44:24,077 --> 00:44:25,416
But yeah,

1117
00:44:26,277 --> 00:44:26,727
interesting, right?

1118
00:44:26,797 --> 00:44:27,657
It's very interesting.

1119
00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:33,527
And you've got, you mentioned, uh, the
lady that she meets at the grocery store.

1120
00:44:34,037 --> 00:44:34,157
Yes.

1121
00:44:34,527 --> 00:44:35,777
Now this, this is when,

1122
00:44:35,797 --> 00:44:36,377
yes,

1123
00:44:36,917 --> 00:44:38,777
this movie, she's fantastic too.

1124
00:44:39,347 --> 00:44:39,667
She is.

1125
00:44:39,997 --> 00:44:42,287
This movie just keeps
delving off into chaos.

1126
00:44:42,297 --> 00:44:45,837
Like, yeah, further, further, further
into the darkest holes you can go.

1127
00:44:46,287 --> 00:44:50,227
And she meets this lady, and she says
something about a seance, basically,

1128
00:44:50,257 --> 00:44:52,257
and Tony Collette, Annie, laughs off.

1129
00:44:52,257 --> 00:44:52,567
She's like, you can

1130
00:44:52,567 --> 00:44:54,157
see your daughter again.

1131
00:44:54,177 --> 00:44:55,437
I saw my grandson.

1132
00:44:55,707 --> 00:44:59,297
She thought she met her just like grief
counseling, like this grief support group.

1133
00:44:59,807 --> 00:45:02,317
Um, when actually she wasn't
part of that group at all.

1134
00:45:02,857 --> 00:45:06,417
She just like showed up, and got
her little claws into Annie, and

1135
00:45:06,417 --> 00:45:07,957
was like, come on, you can do this.

1136
00:45:08,177 --> 00:45:09,017
You can do this with me.

1137
00:45:09,027 --> 00:45:12,647
I know it sounds crazy, but you can
summon spirits, and I went to this

1138
00:45:12,657 --> 00:45:13,977
seance, and it changed my life.

1139
00:45:14,127 --> 00:45:20,047
And, um, I will say, just side note on
that, um, I do believe in mediumship.

1140
00:45:20,167 --> 00:45:21,907
I do believe in ethical mediumship.

1141
00:45:21,917 --> 00:45:29,257
So anybody that's, uh, you know, trying
to, um, play upon your grief or, uh,

1142
00:45:29,587 --> 00:45:35,727
you know, using your grief for, uh, For
earning money, or, um, you know, just

1143
00:45:35,727 --> 00:45:39,497
be real cautious and careful with people
who claim to be a medium, or who can do

1144
00:45:39,497 --> 00:45:41,847
a seance, and contact your loved ones.

1145
00:45:42,237 --> 00:45:45,197
First of all, make sure it's
consensual, and that they're ethical

1146
00:45:45,197 --> 00:45:48,897
about it, and, um, that's all I have
to say about that part of the movie.

1147
00:45:49,107 --> 00:45:49,187
None of this

1148
00:45:49,187 --> 00:45:50,117
Miss, this Miss Cleo stuff.

1149
00:45:50,137 --> 00:45:50,917
Remember Miss Cleo?

1150
00:45:51,257 --> 00:45:53,947
She made a whole bunch of money,
and then came out as a fraud, and

1151
00:45:53,947 --> 00:45:55,217
then made a whole bunch more money.

1152
00:45:55,217 --> 00:45:55,771
Yeah.

1153
00:45:55,952 --> 00:45:56,752
Yeah, yeah.

1154
00:45:56,832 --> 00:45:57,952
Yeah, don't be there are

1155
00:45:57,952 --> 00:46:00,992
certain mediums I think that,
um, and I don't even mind mediums

1156
00:46:01,522 --> 00:46:02,792
charging for their services.

1157
00:46:02,832 --> 00:46:05,972
I just think that people need
to be cautious about, you know,

1158
00:46:06,092 --> 00:46:10,082
trust your instinct when you meet
someone who's like, I can contact

1159
00:46:10,082 --> 00:46:11,692
your loved ones from beyond and,

1160
00:46:11,692 --> 00:46:12,491
you know.

1161
00:46:12,492 --> 00:46:13,682
1995! One time payment!

1162
00:46:14,302 --> 00:46:14,562
Yeah.

1163
00:46:14,592 --> 00:46:15,472
Don't fall for that?

1164
00:46:16,452 --> 00:46:16,732
No.

1165
00:46:16,832 --> 00:46:19,972
Just, you know, you can feel it when
it's like, I feel good about this

1166
00:46:19,972 --> 00:46:22,072
person or I feel kind of like, Ew.

1167
00:46:22,512 --> 00:46:22,832
Ew.

1168
00:46:23,632 --> 00:46:23,942
Yeah.

1169
00:46:23,942 --> 00:46:25,312
So this woman kind of preyed upon her.

1170
00:46:25,322 --> 00:46:25,371
She did.

1171
00:46:25,372 --> 00:46:28,462
Because she's like, You're
grieving for your daughter.

1172
00:46:28,462 --> 00:46:29,612
You can talk to her again.

1173
00:46:29,612 --> 00:46:30,142
I promise.

1174
00:46:30,152 --> 00:46:31,422
I talked to my grandson.

1175
00:46:31,422 --> 00:46:32,102
He was there.

1176
00:46:32,512 --> 00:46:33,662
It was PM on the whole time.

1177
00:46:33,692 --> 00:46:34,222
Wow.

1178
00:46:34,872 --> 00:46:36,532
And then we get the seance scene.

1179
00:46:36,672 --> 00:46:37,112
Yeah.

1180
00:46:38,212 --> 00:46:40,732
With Annie, Charlie, the dad.

1181
00:46:40,832 --> 00:46:41,162
Yeah.

1182
00:46:41,162 --> 00:46:42,082
She brings them all in.

1183
00:46:42,102 --> 00:46:42,692
She's like, Well, I mean,

1184
00:46:42,692 --> 00:46:43,122
Peter.

1185
00:46:43,172 --> 00:46:43,972
Peter the son, I guess.

1186
00:46:43,972 --> 00:46:44,222
Peter,

1187
00:46:44,222 --> 00:46:44,462
yeah.

1188
00:46:44,462 --> 00:46:44,582
There's

1189
00:46:45,617 --> 00:46:46,667
Yeah, yeah.

1190
00:46:46,667 --> 00:46:48,187
This is, in this scene,

1191
00:46:49,637 --> 00:46:50,267
it is, and

1192
00:46:50,267 --> 00:46:53,077
it's one of those, once
again, it drags on.

1193
00:46:53,097 --> 00:46:54,657
It's like, you're like, Oh my gosh, a lot

1194
00:46:54,657 --> 00:46:58,497
of like long pauses and silences
where you're like, what is happening?

1195
00:46:58,507 --> 00:46:59,427
What's going to happen?

1196
00:47:00,067 --> 00:47:02,707
And it just builds the intensity.

1197
00:47:03,387 --> 00:47:03,987
They really.

1198
00:47:04,862 --> 00:47:09,322
Ari Aster really, we're like
a, we're like a catch toy.

1199
00:47:09,332 --> 00:47:10,632
He's out there just doing this with us.

1200
00:47:10,962 --> 00:47:11,652
Like that's what it is.

1201
00:47:12,022 --> 00:47:15,582
The entire movie we're getting
beat up on, knowing that he can

1202
00:47:15,582 --> 00:47:19,322
go in for the kill at any minute,
but it just, it's just relentless.

1203
00:47:20,242 --> 00:47:23,732
And that scene ends up kind of like it
builds up and builds up and builds up.

1204
00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:27,142
And when Charlie's voice
comes out of her mouth.

1205
00:47:27,832 --> 00:47:28,412
Oh, that's wild.

1206
00:47:28,422 --> 00:47:28,622
That's

1207
00:47:28,622 --> 00:47:30,472
when I'm, I'm talking Oscar worthy.

1208
00:47:30,512 --> 00:47:30,672
Oh.

1209
00:47:30,702 --> 00:47:34,892
Because she changes from the
mom, from Annie, into Charlie.

1210
00:47:34,892 --> 00:47:35,672
Charlie, right there.

1211
00:47:35,882 --> 00:47:37,472
And her voice that comes out of her mouth.

1212
00:47:37,592 --> 00:47:38,762
Oh, it's crazy.

1213
00:47:39,162 --> 00:47:40,682
But then it kind of falls flat, right?

1214
00:47:40,792 --> 00:47:41,032
Yeah.

1215
00:47:41,032 --> 00:47:42,582
It doesn't really give you the.

1216
00:47:42,892 --> 00:47:43,172
Yeah.

1217
00:47:43,222 --> 00:47:45,862
Horror like thing you're waiting for.

1218
00:47:46,887 --> 00:47:47,957
Because it kind of teases you.

1219
00:47:48,057 --> 00:47:48,657
It does.

1220
00:47:48,697 --> 00:47:49,217
Till later.

1221
00:47:50,337 --> 00:47:51,027
What happens later?

1222
00:47:52,027 --> 00:47:56,567
Oh my gosh, just when it really
hits the fan, like when the climax

1223
00:47:56,567 --> 00:48:02,757
of the movie starts hitting, all I
want to say is Don't be fooled by

1224
00:48:02,757 --> 00:48:05,007
the action happening in the scene.

1225
00:48:06,267 --> 00:48:08,337
Make sure you look around in the shadows.

1226
00:48:08,337 --> 00:48:08,657
Pay

1227
00:48:08,657 --> 00:48:08,977
attention

1228
00:48:08,977 --> 00:48:14,427
to what's going on in the dark because
there's so much going on that If

1229
00:48:14,427 --> 00:48:17,547
you were just watching the action,
you'd be like, this is so boring.

1230
00:48:18,697 --> 00:48:21,057
Peter is taking forever to get out of bed.

1231
00:48:21,137 --> 00:48:21,417
Yep.

1232
00:48:22,387 --> 00:48:23,227
That scene, right?

1233
00:48:23,507 --> 00:48:25,147
Where he's like, mom?

1234
00:48:25,407 --> 00:48:29,747
This is the entire end, the entire
climax, the, the, the pinnacle

1235
00:48:29,747 --> 00:48:32,107
here basically was a stage play.

1236
00:48:32,107 --> 00:48:36,997
It's, it's everything has got to
be perfect or that doesn't happen.

1237
00:48:37,127 --> 00:48:39,737
The entire scene can't happen, right?

1238
00:48:39,747 --> 00:48:43,807
Like that's, it had to have been
almost, well, it definitely was.

1239
00:48:43,807 --> 00:48:44,347
It was definitely.

1240
00:48:44,862 --> 00:48:45,992
Choreograph, we'll call it.

1241
00:48:46,042 --> 00:48:46,452
Yeah.

1242
00:48:46,522 --> 00:48:46,652
Yeah.

1243
00:48:46,682 --> 00:48:47,232
Um.

1244
00:48:48,047 --> 00:48:49,037
Because everything had to line up.

1245
00:48:49,037 --> 00:48:49,547
It's fluid, yeah.

1246
00:48:49,547 --> 00:48:49,877
It did.

1247
00:48:49,947 --> 00:48:55,187
It had to line up perfectly, or
else none of that could happen.

1248
00:48:56,017 --> 00:48:56,957
Walk us through that scene.

1249
00:48:58,487 --> 00:48:58,857
Well,

1250
00:49:00,967 --> 00:49:05,717
basically Annie, now
possessed, with Piedmon, okay?

1251
00:49:07,847 --> 00:49:08,697
Dad's dead.

1252
00:49:09,307 --> 00:49:09,747
Oh yeah.

1253
00:49:10,267 --> 00:49:14,447
In a horrific blaze of fire
that Annie was trying to avoid.

1254
00:49:14,797 --> 00:49:19,297
She was trying to say like, you gotta
do this, I can't do it, but I, she

1255
00:49:19,297 --> 00:49:23,297
was willing to sacrifice her own life
to destroy the journal, to get, you

1256
00:49:23,297 --> 00:49:25,777
know, to end this whole nightmare.

1257
00:49:26,377 --> 00:49:29,127
But when she threw it in the
fire herself, it wasn't her that

1258
00:49:29,127 --> 00:49:30,427
lit on fire, it was her husband.

1259
00:49:30,747 --> 00:49:30,767
Yeah.

1260
00:49:30,817 --> 00:49:31,087
Right.

1261
00:49:31,097 --> 00:49:33,757
And he lights up, he's, he's gone.

1262
00:49:35,157 --> 00:49:39,537
And Peter's just waking up
from his Incident at school,

1263
00:49:39,537 --> 00:49:42,097
and he's like looking for her.

1264
00:49:42,387 --> 00:49:44,667
She's already there in the room

1265
00:49:45,407 --> 00:49:49,047
And it's just there's all kinds of whole

1266
00:49:49,047 --> 00:49:50,297
chase happening.

1267
00:49:50,587 --> 00:49:54,027
He runs into the attic She's
banging her head on the attic

1268
00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:55,807
door that part freaked me out.

1269
00:49:56,197 --> 00:50:00,752
I was like Like that was when I started
watching through my fingers By that point

1270
00:50:00,902 --> 00:50:05,232
when she's like trying to get into the
attic and some people asked online they

1271
00:50:05,232 --> 00:50:08,852
were like well how does she get into
the attic because he closes the door but

1272
00:50:08,862 --> 00:50:15,822
there's people in the attic there's people
from the cult already waiting already in

1273
00:50:15,822 --> 00:50:21,072
the attic and so when he turns around when
he finds the body missing and he turns

1274
00:50:21,072 --> 00:50:24,132
around uh she's already up there with him

1275
00:50:24,792 --> 00:50:33,697
just intense it's it's scary it's
It's, so horror movies don't really

1276
00:50:34,027 --> 00:50:35,607
scare too many people out there.

1277
00:50:35,667 --> 00:50:38,297
There's a lot of people who can
really handle them and watch them

1278
00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:41,957
and love them because they can see
through it and they're like, I get it.

1279
00:50:41,957 --> 00:50:44,337
I, this isn't that, no, not this one.

1280
00:50:44,347 --> 00:50:44,517
No.

1281
00:50:44,567 --> 00:50:46,477
Like this is one that will stick with you.

1282
00:50:46,507 --> 00:50:47,527
It will scar you.

1283
00:50:48,017 --> 00:50:48,257
Yeah.

1284
00:50:48,257 --> 00:50:48,797
A morning.

1285
00:50:48,847 --> 00:50:50,787
It will scar you out there
if you watch this movie.

1286
00:50:51,847 --> 00:50:52,087
Yeah.

1287
00:50:52,087 --> 00:50:54,067
I think it's because it
runs through a family.

1288
00:50:54,427 --> 00:50:54,737
Yes.

1289
00:50:54,757 --> 00:50:57,697
And no one, again, like most
of our movies, a lot of our

1290
00:50:57,697 --> 00:51:00,622
movies in this series, we've
said, There's no happy ending.

1291
00:51:01,282 --> 00:51:05,462
You don't see them like make it out alive
or you don't see Peter like, you know, in

1292
00:51:05,462 --> 00:51:09,942
those old movies when it was like Peter's
the lone survivor and someone's putting

1293
00:51:09,942 --> 00:51:14,752
a blanket around him and he's getting
put in an ambulance and everybody's

1294
00:51:14,752 --> 00:51:16,502
like, it's okay, it's gonna be all right.

1295
00:51:16,502 --> 00:51:17,822
This is what you want to happen.

1296
00:51:17,872 --> 00:51:18,882
Yeah, it does not happen.

1297
00:51:18,882 --> 00:51:19,132
The good

1298
00:51:19,132 --> 00:51:20,192
old days of horror movies.

1299
00:51:20,192 --> 00:51:22,752
They tie things up with
neat bloody bow, right?

1300
00:51:22,752 --> 00:51:23,152
Basically

1301
00:51:23,152 --> 00:51:24,682
the cult wins in this one.

1302
00:51:24,702 --> 00:51:28,452
I mean, this is, they, they achieve
what they set out to achieve, which

1303
00:51:28,452 --> 00:51:32,962
was to get Pee on a body to inhabit.

1304
00:51:33,022 --> 00:51:34,672
And, and that's what happens.

1305
00:51:34,672 --> 00:51:34,852
And it

1306
00:51:34,852 --> 00:51:37,822
leaves it kind of open like you're,
you, I mean, we got, we're sitting

1307
00:51:37,822 --> 00:51:40,672
here interpreting the movie and
thi and this movie has been out

1308
00:51:40,672 --> 00:51:43,402
for a while and people were still
interpreting different parts of it.

1309
00:51:43,402 --> 00:51:43,462
Yeah.

1310
00:51:43,462 --> 00:51:46,252
And picking out little pieces and
saying, oh, well wait a minute.

1311
00:51:46,372 --> 00:51:48,202
I mean, you, you pulled
out the three heads thing.

1312
00:51:48,232 --> 00:51:49,102
Like that's amazing.

1313
00:51:49,342 --> 00:51:49,402
Yeah.

1314
00:51:49,402 --> 00:51:53,742
So the grandma, um,
yeah, Charlie, uh, and.

1315
00:51:55,077 --> 00:51:56,817
Annie, eventually.

1316
00:51:56,817 --> 00:51:57,137
Yep.

1317
00:51:57,267 --> 00:51:58,077
Beheads herself.

1318
00:51:58,087 --> 00:51:58,417
Yep.

1319
00:51:58,877 --> 00:52:02,937
And I think they needed the three
heads in order to conduct the ritual.

1320
00:52:02,937 --> 00:52:04,813
To get Pym on there.

1321
00:52:04,813 --> 00:52:05,056
Okay.

1322
00:52:05,056 --> 00:52:07,973
It had to be like, their payment
for, um, conjuring him and

1323
00:52:07,973 --> 00:52:09,674
having him come back in a body.

1324
00:52:09,674 --> 00:52:10,646
And then it's, and

1325
00:52:10,646 --> 00:52:15,962
so the movie ends and And we're left at
home still questioning our sanity even

1326
00:52:15,962 --> 00:52:17,802
more than I know when we started, right?

1327
00:52:17,802 --> 00:52:18,272
Like that's

1328
00:52:20,462 --> 00:52:21,552
Yeah, see we're sitting here now.

1329
00:52:21,552 --> 00:52:28,172
I'm like Yeah, i'm like what did we
see I mean the movie's incredible

1330
00:52:28,412 --> 00:52:31,542
Yeah, this is the only one that
after the end all of us I watched

1331
00:52:31,582 --> 00:52:32,652
all of them with my husband.

1332
00:52:32,652 --> 00:52:36,912
We watched them together and by the end
of all of them even like suspiria Yeah,

1333
00:52:37,222 --> 00:52:42,222
which was real gory at the end there
I turned the TV off, and I was like,

1334
00:52:42,312 --> 00:52:43,602
Alright, time to go get ready for bed.

1335
00:52:43,602 --> 00:52:44,812
Yeah, I can go, I can sleep

1336
00:52:44,842 --> 00:52:45,782
comfortable at night, yeah.

1337
00:52:45,792 --> 00:52:49,132
This was the only one that I was
like, Matt said, uh, Oh, I've

1338
00:52:49,132 --> 00:52:51,102
already gotten ready for bed, so
I'm just gonna head up to bed.

1339
00:52:51,102 --> 00:52:53,429
And I was like, You're
gonna leave me alone?

1340
00:52:53,429 --> 00:52:53,744
You're like,

1341
00:52:53,744 --> 00:52:55,671
hang on, turn the lights on, turn
the lights on, keep the lights on.

1342
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:55,692
I

1343
00:52:56,092 --> 00:52:59,432
think you should just come with me,
and we'll go, and I'll get ready

1344
00:52:59,432 --> 00:53:02,202
for bed, and you'll stand there next
to me while I get ready for bed.

1345
00:53:02,232 --> 00:53:04,892
And then we'll go upstairs
together, in the dark.

1346
00:53:05,652 --> 00:53:05,882
Together.

1347
00:53:05,952 --> 00:53:06,252
Yes,

1348
00:53:06,512 --> 00:53:06,932
yes.

1349
00:53:06,982 --> 00:53:07,532
That's good, right?

1350
00:53:07,532 --> 00:53:07,871
Yeah.

1351
00:53:07,872 --> 00:53:08,182
Yeah.

1352
00:53:09,347 --> 00:53:11,197
This movie, it, it still bothers me now.

1353
00:53:11,297 --> 00:53:15,317
Like, it's, what are your final thoughts?

1354
00:53:15,467 --> 00:53:17,247
What, do you have any
more points you gotta hit?

1355
00:53:17,247 --> 00:53:18,557
I know we could talk about it forever.

1356
00:53:18,567 --> 00:53:18,957
We could.

1357
00:53:19,087 --> 00:53:19,467
Yeah.

1358
00:53:19,567 --> 00:53:19,877
I know.

1359
00:53:20,947 --> 00:53:24,157
Um, I do want to point out, I
still want to claim that this

1360
00:53:24,167 --> 00:53:25,717
isn't technically a witch movie.

1361
00:53:25,727 --> 00:53:26,247
Yes.

1362
00:53:26,577 --> 00:53:28,886
I would like to say that because
I would like to say that.

1363
00:53:29,587 --> 00:53:34,687
This group of people, even though they're
conducting rituals and spells, um, the way

1364
00:53:34,687 --> 00:53:40,887
that I like to view and portray a witch,
or a pagan, or, uh, someone who, um,

1365
00:53:42,797 --> 00:53:47,097
maybe operates in a spirituality closer
to mine, uh, this would be more like a

1366
00:53:47,117 --> 00:53:49,757
cult than it would be a coven of witches.

1367
00:53:50,007 --> 00:53:54,757
So That would be my final thought, is
maybe take that part loosely and enjoy the

1368
00:53:54,757 --> 00:53:56,157
movie for the entertainment that it is.

1369
00:53:56,427 --> 00:53:57,157
Absolutely.

1370
00:53:57,187 --> 00:54:00,527
The miserable entertainment
that it is, right?

1371
00:54:00,977 --> 00:54:06,887
My final thought on this movie is
Tony Collette, damn it, an Oscar.

1372
00:54:07,177 --> 00:54:08,427
Get her one now.

1373
00:54:08,767 --> 00:54:09,037
Yep.

1374
00:54:09,097 --> 00:54:09,447
That's it.

1375
00:54:09,457 --> 00:54:10,287
That's all I got to say about it.

1376
00:54:10,287 --> 00:54:10,577
I'll present

1377
00:54:10,577 --> 00:54:11,247
it to her myself.

1378
00:54:11,877 --> 00:54:12,517
You know what though?

1379
00:54:12,527 --> 00:54:13,537
This is, yeah, right?

1380
00:54:13,537 --> 00:54:14,407
We'll get it.

1381
00:54:14,632 --> 00:54:15,712
We will make an Oscar.

1382
00:54:16,192 --> 00:54:16,782
We'll bring it to her.

1383
00:54:16,902 --> 00:54:17,902
And we'll get Toni Collette.

1384
00:54:17,912 --> 00:54:18,082
Okay,

1385
00:54:18,082 --> 00:54:18,512
Toni.

1386
00:54:19,222 --> 00:54:19,722
Reach out.

1387
00:54:20,182 --> 00:54:21,152
We got you, girl.

1388
00:54:21,582 --> 00:54:25,142
We might as well wrap this whole
thing up because this is the end.

1389
00:54:25,152 --> 00:54:28,832
This is the end of the project,
but maybe it's just the end of

1390
00:54:28,832 --> 00:54:29,982
season one because I looked.

1391
00:54:29,982 --> 00:54:30,251
I looked.

1392
00:54:30,382 --> 00:54:36,442
And I saw that they had 167
more witch movies on IMDb.

1393
00:54:36,442 --> 00:54:37,952
Are you ready to go through some more?

1394
00:54:38,372 --> 00:54:43,102
Um, maybe not 167, but for sure,
let's, let's work through that list.

1395
00:54:43,512 --> 00:54:44,672
We can get season two.

1396
00:54:45,702 --> 00:54:46,652
Maybe it'll be something different.

1397
00:54:47,102 --> 00:54:47,892
Maybe it'll be something different.

1398
00:54:47,892 --> 00:54:52,212
I mean, this first season, it
was only going to be a, well,

1399
00:54:52,332 --> 00:54:55,082
at first it was a pipe dream and
then it turned into real stuff.

1400
00:54:55,082 --> 00:54:55,942
And then we started watching movies.

1401
00:54:56,482 --> 00:54:59,402
And then we ended up with,
with Robin Lively herself.

1402
00:54:59,402 --> 00:55:04,272
We had Ryan Bartley from, uh,
her anime queen out there from,

1403
00:55:04,722 --> 00:55:06,082
uh, different movies and stuff.

1404
00:55:06,112 --> 00:55:07,742
And then we're here.

1405
00:55:08,092 --> 00:55:08,912
This is our guest.

1406
00:55:08,912 --> 00:55:12,022
Our final guest is the own location set.

1407
00:55:12,582 --> 00:55:14,152
Like we took this thing and ran with it.

1408
00:55:15,762 --> 00:55:16,252
Now

1409
00:55:16,982 --> 00:55:17,582
it's been a blast.

1410
00:55:17,642 --> 00:55:18,042
I want to

1411
00:55:18,042 --> 00:55:20,702
hear what other people out there got to
say and what they want to see us do next.

1412
00:55:20,732 --> 00:55:27,957
Because I'm thinking, I don't know,
maybe we can do some gory movies, you

1413
00:55:27,957 --> 00:55:33,007
know, the kinds I like, where the, they
have a mask on and they got a knife

1414
00:55:33,007 --> 00:55:34,647
and you know who it is and that's it.

1415
00:55:35,307 --> 00:55:40,277
Yeah, and I will, I will agree with you on
the next time we do a live podcast event.

1416
00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:40,717
Yes.

1417
00:55:41,407 --> 00:55:44,017
Let's do adults only and we'll
do one of the hardcore ones.

1418
00:55:44,537 --> 00:55:45,177
Arc the Clown.

1419
00:55:45,177 --> 00:55:45,767
Autopsy of Jane Doe.

1420
00:55:45,777 --> 00:55:46,887
The Terrifiers and stuff.

1421
00:55:46,897 --> 00:55:47,797
Oh, oh, okay.

1422
00:55:48,087 --> 00:55:49,427
We'll do the Autopsy of Jane Doe.

1423
00:55:50,367 --> 00:55:54,587
I owe you that, but I feel like
we need a good group of adults.

1424
00:55:54,807 --> 00:55:55,177
Yes.

1425
00:55:55,917 --> 00:55:59,387
That are into that kind of thing,
they can really enjoy it with us.

1426
00:55:59,927 --> 00:56:00,307
I'm down.

1427
00:56:00,307 --> 00:56:00,857
I think that would be a blast.

1428
00:56:01,037 --> 00:56:01,487
I'm down.

1429
00:56:01,497 --> 00:56:02,847
We should screen it in a cemetery.

1430
00:56:02,847 --> 00:56:03,477
How about that?

1431
00:56:03,767 --> 00:56:03,967
Yeah.

1432
00:56:04,127 --> 00:56:04,957
Maybe in a morgue.

1433
00:56:05,557 --> 00:56:06,217
Ooh.

1434
00:56:06,737 --> 00:56:07,997
Anybody out there know a morgue?

1435
00:56:07,997 --> 00:56:10,027
We can film the next
live podcast taping in.

1436
00:56:10,117 --> 00:56:10,767
I'd love to do that.

1437
00:56:10,787 --> 00:56:11,167
That'd be fun.

1438
00:56:11,167 --> 00:56:11,277
Yeah,

1439
00:56:11,277 --> 00:56:11,737
reach out.

1440
00:56:11,797 --> 00:56:12,197
Yeah, reach

1441
00:56:12,197 --> 00:56:12,837
out to us.

1442
00:56:13,237 --> 00:56:14,217
Until the end, that's us.

1443
00:56:14,247 --> 00:56:14,757
That's it.