Burning Witches Pt. 2: From Accusation To Exoneration (AUDIO ONLY)

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Hello, and welcome to Practically Magick.

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I am Courtney Pearl, your Pagan
Folk Witch, Card Reader, Healer,

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Spiritualist, Celtic Priestess,
Teacher, Artist, Mystic Seeker.

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I am discovering true and real
Magick in the world, and I

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am here to share it with you.

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I am going to start today's episode.

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This is a two part episode, so if
you did not already listen to last

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week's episode where we started our
topic on Witches and witch trials.

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Please go back and have a listen.

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You will get to hear a little bit of
my personal story as a reincarnated

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witch of the Salem witch trials.

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Yes, that's right.

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I said reincarnated witch
of the Salem witch trials.

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I know everybody has their claim to being
a witch from the Sandlin witch trials, but

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I think I have a pretty convincing story.

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And you know what?

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Even if you don't believe it's
true, I'm going to run with it.

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I'm going to go ahead
and pretend it's true.

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I also talk a little bit about leading
up to the wave of witch trials happening

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all over Europe in the 16, 1500s, 1600s.

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And then of course, the wave of witch
trials happening in New England states in

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America in the late 1600s and early 1700s.

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Talk a little bit about the historic
implications and some of the names

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to remember, names, dates, and places
to remember about those witch trials.

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And leading up to our topic that
we are going to talk about today.

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So before we get into all of that, and
before we talk about our next part of

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this episode on witch trials, Where we
talk a little bit about the why of it all.

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I'm going to go ahead and pull a card.

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In last episode, we pulled a card from
the Witch's Wisdom tarot deck and we

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did get the, uh, the card of love.

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And that could be a broad overview card.

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for the entire two part episode,
but I feel like this second

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part deserves its own card.

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So I'm going to go ahead and pull a card
for today's episode before we really get

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into what we're going to talk about next.

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All right.

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Part two, we're really going to focus
As I'm ready to pull this card from the

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witch's wisdom deck, I really want to
call in the spirits and ancestors of

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witches that came before me, because
as you will learn in today's episode,

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as you will get to hear, most of these
women never called themselves witches.

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They were on trial for being
witches, which means that they

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were women living their lives.

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And I want to do them justice I believe
that telling their story and naming their

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names gives them the power back that they
had taken from them when they were accused

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and sentenced and executed for witchcraft.

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And so today's card is going
to be in honor of them.

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Oh my goodness.

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And the card that I have pulled for
this episode today is number 15.

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It's the journey card.

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And I love this because in the
card, I'm going to show it.

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On camera, you can't see the
details very well, but I'm going

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to describe it a little bit.

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It's kind of like a canyon.

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You see the mountains on either side and
it dips into this valley in the middle.

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There is a lot of vortex
happening in this card.

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So the letter V is in the canyon with
both of the sides of the mountain

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sloping inward to the center of the card.

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And then you also have in the sky, an
image of some geese flying in the V shape.

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So it's kind of like this arrow sign or
it's pointing and deep into the canyon in

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kind of a small far away detail, you can
see a white horse being led by a person.

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Someone who is on an epic journey.

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And this really accumulates the symbolism
of going on a journey and having all

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of these trials and tribulations, all
these like mountains to climb and hills.

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It's giving this impression that there
is a lot to overcome, but there is still

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a lot that we already have overcome.

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And that's kind of the
meaning of the journey.

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in and of itself.

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That we're going through ups and downs
and crevices and canyons and mountains

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and hikes and all of these things.

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It's kind of the journey of life.

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And this really makes me feel like
everything that we've been through in

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our history, when we look back over human
history of all of time, there has always

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been marginalized people, people of color
or people of different races or people of

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different religions, and definitely of.

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different genders or different sexes
that are going through a lot to

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prove their worth and to prove their,

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their right to be here, their right
to have just as much abundance

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and prosperity as the rest of us.

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And so right in the center of this
canyon, you see this beautiful little

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watering hole, this lake in the center
where it would be like a source of

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water, a source of life, a source of
abundance right there in the center.

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And it kind of gives this idea to
all of us, no matter what we're going

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through, no matter what we've been
through, no matter what we're about

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to go through, all the hard things,
all of the effort, all the work, this

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little lake in the middle is our rest.

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It's our moment to stop and reflect.

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It's our moment to stop and
nurture ourselves and to

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take what we need out of it.

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And in doing this episode, I
really feel like this is my chance

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to take all of the horrors that
witch trials and witch hunts have

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given, especially the women, the
female sex, takes that and it gives

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it some power back in being able
to explain what was happening.

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Now we left off where half hanged
Mary and the poem that was written by

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Margaret Atwood about Half hanged Mary.

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So today we're going to get into
a little bit of the next, the next

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thing that I want to talk about.

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So now we're into the late 1600s.

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We have the Salem Witch Trials, of course.

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Now there is.

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a whole season of unobscured podcasts
where you can get into gritty detail about

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what led up to the Salem Witch Trials
because it was not, again, in a vacuum.

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It did not happen just in
this town to these people.

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You get a sense the way that Alan Menke
describes it and how he sets the for you.

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You get a sense and understand how it came
to be that Because of things happening

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politically, because there was a change
in power on the throne of England at the

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time, it sort of left the door open for
these trials to run rampant in Salem.

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But I do want to kind of note some
figures that are worth noting.

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Some of my favorite people in this
story of the Salem Witch Trials.

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Because you have Sarah Good, one
of the first people to be accused.

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She was, uh, someone who was
born into money and had money.

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Her father had land and wealth,
but she and her first husband

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had got, had lost all of it and
gotten into quite a bit of debt.

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So she and her second husband,
they became homeless beggars.

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So she was known for going around
town and asking people for food.

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Food knocking on people's doors.

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She had two children to look
after, and they were basically

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sleeping in people's barns.

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And she was also known for muttering
under her breath when someone denied

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her food or shelter and said, you
know, get out of here, go away.

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She would sort of curse and mutter.

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I love that because it's notable,
you know, to figure out that her only

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crime truthfully was being a victim.

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of the economic climate of
the town and of the times.

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You have Bridget Bishop,
who was, um, noted to be a

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feisty, fun loving innkeeper.

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She was the first one to be executed in
the trials, um, and she had been accused

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already in 1680, um, but she was accused
again because the Chautauqu family's son.

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Became very sick and that she
was lumped in with Alice Parker.

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Alice Parker was one of the
names of witches that were also

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accused of making their son sick.

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Um, you have Martha Carrier,
who was known, was called a

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rampant hag by Cotton Mather.

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And basically her crime was independence
of mind and an unsubmissive character.

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It's interesting that the Salem
witch trials, finally in 1702, the

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Massachusetts Court decided the trials
were unlawful and 22 convictions were

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overturned, um, from the trials, but
it wasn't until, so in 1957, they had

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a resolution on the books, but in 2001,
it wasn't until 2001 In my lifetime.

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Okay.

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That the last few names were
exonerated in the witch trials.

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So Alice Parker, it wasn't, it was
because of her descendants that they

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finally, um, in the court system
legally, were able to overturn this

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conviction of being a witch in 2001.

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And it doesn't end there.

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It wasn't until 2022, which was
only two years ago, that the very

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last name, Elizabeth Johnson, Was
conviction was overturned and signed

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by Governor Baker, Massachusetts.

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So I just wanted to point that out
that it actually took until 2022

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for finally every member of the.

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Victims of the Salem witch trials
were finally exonerated from their

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convictions, from their crimes.

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So what typically happens
when someone is accused?

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Okay.

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So if I'm looking at all of these witch
trials and I have been accumulating

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all of these stories to kind of present
for you today, a lot of common themes

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that I see is that when they're brought
in, when they're arrested and brought

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to jail, They're usually checked
over, um, they're completely naked.

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Someone has to check
every inch of their body.

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Um, I'm sure that especially in times
when this was, um, you know, people

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were much more conservative about their.

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bodies, that something like this
would be extremely traumatic.

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To be forced to go into the jail
and to be checked for witch's marks.

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They were looking for, um, any sign
like marks or moles, or they would

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call them like teats where their
familiars would suckle from, things

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like this that are just basically
scars, birthmarks, and moles.

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And this is interesting to me because
when I first started emotional

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processing, I went to my very first
emotional process because I was having

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a visceral strange reaction to moles.

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Every time I saw a mole on someone
else's body or On my own, you know,

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thought about my own body with moles.

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Cause I do have moles.

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I am.

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I, I do.

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Um, beauty marks, if you will, if
you prefer, I would have a literal

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shaking and crying reaction to it.

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I couldn't even call a dermatologist
and make an appointment to have them

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checked without sobbing on the phone,
without taking anti anxiety medication,

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just to make it to the doctors.

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And by the way, I never did
actually make it to the doctor.

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I had like, a huge, uh, reaction
in the car on the way there and

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couldn't ever actually get to the
dermatologist's office until I had

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had an emotional process session.

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When I did emotional processing and
I processed some of the things that

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connect my spirit and my body together,
imperfections like moles was a sort

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of, um, touch point for that issue.

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When I got to process that, when I
got to really figure that out, it

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completely made the issue go away.

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I was able to go to the
dermatologist after that and I was

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able to have some moles removed
on my back without any issues.

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Um, but I find the story about moles
interesting because that there is a

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connection there where I have this
reaction to moles like, Oh, I wonder

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if that has anything to do with my
previous life of being checked for moles.

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Because I'm a witch.

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Then a lot of times these women,
sometimes men, there are men in witch

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trials too, but they're much less common.

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Um, they would be kept in the jail for
months, months and months, sometimes

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years in many of the trials that I
have been researching, there are at

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least a few people who die before they
even make it to their trial because

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they're kept in such poor conditions.

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They're kept in jails with.

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That are extremely dirty.

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They get very sick.

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Um, they're not fed very well.

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It's, um, it's very sad, the conditions
that they have to live in, and

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even one of the notable characters,
most common character of the Salem

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Witch Trials, which is Tituba.

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She was, um, she was one of the only ones
I can see from record that was released.

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She was sort of the, the catalyst for a
lot of the spark that happened in this.

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In those trials of, like, what stories
were told, because they had already

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arrested 30 people, and then Tituba
created this story about how she had

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seen the devil's book, and she was
made to sign the devil's book with

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ink that looked like blood, and that,
um, there were at least nine other

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names that she could see in that book.

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Now Tituba, I have to imagine she
was under threat of death, and so she

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came up with this story, but to her
credit, she didn't name anybody else.

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She just said there are nine names, and
this kind of kept the wheel spinning

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as far as keeping the magistrates busy.

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looking, right?

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They wouldn't stop looking for more
witches until they had those nine names.

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And it wasn't until later that one
of the other people accused said,

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Oh no, there's not just nine names.

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There's actually 40 because I've
seen 40 different women dancing

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with the devil in the woods.

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Right?

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This just keeps that witch hunt
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stop until they feel the fear subside.

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They feel that they're safe
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and their children will be safe.

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Another thing that I see common in the
stories is that when they are burned,

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typically they are hung, burned, burned.

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Um, or like in the story in Sweden,
they were beheaded, um, when they

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are executed for being a witch.

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Sometimes in a few of the stories that
I've come across, the townspeople agreed

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to leave a horseshoe on their grave.

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This was done, um, this was
part of the superstitious.

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practices of the time where they
would put a horseshoe on their door

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or above their door to keep evil
spirits out and to keep witches out.

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And if they put a horseshoe on the grave
marker of witches, it was kind of like

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sealing the curse in with the dead witch.

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The witch can no longer curse
us from beyond the grave if she

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has a horseshoe on the grave.

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Now, I find this incredibly
funny, but also Not funny.

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That the people accusing these women
of witchcraft are using witchcraft to

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protect themselves from witchcraft.

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As a modern witch myself, if I say,
listen, I want some extra protection in my

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home, I'm going to do something like, oh,
I know I'll put a horseshoe above my door.

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That's witchcraft.

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Okay.

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Personally, I have a broom
that I leave above my door,

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my front door all year round.

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It smells of cinnamon.

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Or at least it did when
I first put it up there.

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Sometimes I refresh it
with some extra cinnamon.

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It keeps pests out, and it also cleanses
people's energy as they walk through

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my door, so that whatever negativity
or heaviness that they're bringing in

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with them, they leave it at the door.

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Um, the Magick is not the broom.

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The Magick is me.

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So here are people, townspeople,
Putting Magick into this horseshoe

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and calling it protection from
the witches that they just killed.

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Okay, I don't know.

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Do you find the irony in that?

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Can you hear that?

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Can you see that?

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No, I want to point out at this
point in time, because I particularly

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subscribe to the Welsh witchcraft.

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Celtic witchcraft is my specialty.

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It's where I like And the more
I hear about the Welsh culture,

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the more I love the Welsh people.

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Because in all this talk about witch
trials, we can find how many people

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were killed, executed for witchcraft
in England, Scotland, France, Germany,

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Sweden, um, Italy, all over Europe,
in the Americas, in New England.

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This was happening.

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All over.

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But there are very few witch trials on
history, on record, in Wales and Ireland.

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And one might have to ask, why?

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Why, when Wales is so close in proximity
to England, Why do they not have

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their own history of witch trials?

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And when they do, it's usually
English immigrants who came from

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England and lived in Wales who
started their witch trials there.

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And one, one, um, explanation for this
might be because of the culture itself.

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So the Irish and the Welsh Celtic
people were very superstitious,

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but they believe in fairies.

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They believe in the fae world.

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They believe in the other world.

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Their mythology and their folklore
have a lot to do with stepping into the

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fae world or those tricky fae, right?

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And their definition of fairies
are far less, um, whimsical

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and cute as our modern version.

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They're, you know, Definition of fairies
were like very tricky people, right?

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They would be poisoning your cattle.

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They would be, um, killing your crops.

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They would be, um, stealing your
babies, you know, things like that.

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Sometimes, sometimes they were just
otherworldly people who were fascinating

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and wonderful and Magickal, but the
idea that, uh, that it could be the fae

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that are doing those kinds of things.

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It turned their attention away from
looking at women as witches, and

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instead of viewing women as a respected,
wise, and Magickal person of the area.

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And they would be seen as
people who can help you.

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So if you are experiencing something
you believe is from the Fae, um,

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and you need some protection from
that, you would go to a witch.

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You would find a Magickal
person in your area.

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They didn't have the word witch in Welsh.

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They, um, they would call them something
like a swinraig, something that

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means Magickal woman or wise woman.

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And they would go to that person and
they would say, listen, I'm having

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a little trouble with my fairies.

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Can you help me out?

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And then they would Produce a
concoction, a potion or a spell or a

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charm or something that would help you.

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And I have to give major props
to the Welsh people for that.

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Thank you so much for identifying that
women have a place and a role as a leader

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and as someone who can be turned to for
advice and help in matters such as these.

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And these women are were independently
wealthy, independently, um,

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able to take care of themselves
because they didn't need a man.

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Um, they didn't need a husband and they
didn't need a father to provide for them.

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They provided them for themselves
by being the wise knowledge keepers

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of Magick in their community.

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So they were respected.

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They were respected
people in their society.

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And this is a very different view of what
we're seeing when we see what happens

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when women are accused of witchcraft.

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And this is very evident
in Welsh mythology.

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There is some medieval texts that they
have uncovered of Welsh law, which I love

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also, which states that, you know, in
matters of marriage, when wedding your

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daughter to, uh, another person, the Welsh
law states that she has to give consent.

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And if you look at the Welsh mythology,
you can see the proof of that in the

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story of Bronwyn, the sister of Bron.

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She is married to the King of
Ireland, and she has to agree to it.

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It says in the Welsh law, in medieval
law texts, that she is not the property

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of her father or brother, but that she
has to consent to the marriage as well.

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So in the story of
Bronwyn, she does marry.

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King of Ireland, but he mistreats her.

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He beats her and imprisons her.

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And when Bronn and his brothers and
the king of the, um, Welsh Island,

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they hear of this, they have to go and
rescue her and they go to war for her.

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So it starts a war between the island of
the mighty and the, and the, um, Irish.

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Um, you can also see this in the
story of Blodiwed, even though she

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was made of a flower to marry Fláil.

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She chooses her own love, which is Granu,
and they decide together that they will

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end Flau's life, but this is because she
has not consented to the marriage to Flau.

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So, um, this is just a little snippet
of the Welsh mythology, which I'll

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talk about in other episodes, but I
wanted to point that out that Welsh

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culture has a significantly different
view of witchcraft and witches.

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Um, in fact, Caradwyn in their mythology
is kind of like their, um, a deity or

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goddess that is like the witch goddess.

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She brews in her cauldron and she is
very much, um, held to a high regard.

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She's very respected in
the, in the mythology.

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It's a different culture than what we're
seeing from The, um, religious fanatics

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of the Puritans who came from England.

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Okay.

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So I find it really fascinating that
while researching all of this, I just

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happened to join a book club where we
are reading a book called Caliban and

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the Witch, Women, the Body and the
Primitive Accumulation by Silvia Federici.

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In this book, and I have only just
begun to read some parts of it.

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They outline a little bit of the
culture of emerging capitalism,

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and I like the way she is.

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It's a very, like, heavy text.

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It's very informational, but it's
very well researched, and I just want

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to quote something that is in the
introduction, that when I read it, as

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I'm researching all of this other stuff,
I thought it's very well researched.

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This falls in line perfectly with
the answer to the question, why?

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Why accuse women of witchcraft?

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Why was this such a big deal?

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Other than the Puritan religious aspect
of, we have to cleanse and purify the

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earth of all Associations with the devil,
the devil is our enemy and all of that.

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In this, um, introduction, she says
that she chose the figure of the witch

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from the Tempest, um, in this volume
is placed at the center stage as the

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embodiment of the world of female
subjects that capitalism had to destroy.

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The heretic, the healer, the disobedient
wife, the woman who dared to live alone,

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the Obehe woman who poisoned the master's
food and inspired the slaves to revolt.

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So she's claiming here in this text
that capitalism could not exist without

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enslavement, the free labor of people of
color or women to, um, To have the society

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we have currently and that in, in Marx,
in Marxism, it's sort of like, um, Mark

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says, uh, he assumed that the violence
that presided over the earliest phases

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of capitalist expansion would recede with
the maturing of capitalist relations.

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But she says in return of the most
violent aspects of primitive accumulation

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has accompanied every phase of
capitalist globalization, including

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the present one, demonstrating that
the continuous expulsion of farmers

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from the land, war and plunder on
world scale, and the degradation of

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women are necessary conditions for the
existence of capitalism in all times.

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Now, I want to reiterate some of the
reasons that women were accused of

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witchcraft and if they aren't the
reasons why, because a lot of times

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the reasons why we're totally made
up, like the boy down the street

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is sick, so you must be a witch.

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I want to list some of the reasons
I have pulled out of all these witch

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trial stories Why women are accused
or what makes them suspicious.

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of engaging in witchcraft.

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I'm going to list some of
these for you right now.

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Openly criticizing someone, being
rude, odd, loud, or cursing, having

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an illegitimate child, having or
performing abortions, a knowledge of

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herbal medicines, wearing clothing that
is outside of class or cultural norms,

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being poor, begging for food or shelter,

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estate or land disputes, Usually
something about inheritance from their

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father and where that land should go.

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Having no living parents, being
old, not attending church services

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or having legitimate membership in
the church, attending church too much,

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having afflictions and
illnesses that end suddenly,

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taking on a Quaker child
after their parents have died.

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That was Rebecca Nurse in the
Salem Witch Trials, by the way.

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Having a lover.

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Being from Maine.

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Having an association
with another known witch.

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And association could be literally
having talked to them once.

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Having ailments.

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Being a widow.

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Having a name.

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Those are not the least of all of the
things and reasons why a woman might be

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accused of witchcraft or being a witch.

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And when we act like something like this
could not still happen, You know, we,

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we act like the people of the 1600s, I
mean, they must have been just so stupid.

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They're so superstitious.

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They don't understand
how things really work.

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Are we really that much
better in our current times?

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We still engage in capitalism,
which means that we still

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need the free labor of women.

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We need women to be submissive
and we need people of color to be

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submissive because we need them to
play their roles in our society in

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order for capitalism to even work.

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Which is what this book, Caliban
and the Witches, is proposing.

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And what about the MacArthur trials during
when everyone was accused of communism?

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That was in the 1940s in America.

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That's modern history.

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People were not allowed to even
have a political belief system

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without being accused of being
a traitor to their country.

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And from what I can see, Witch trials
and being accused of witchcraft

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and making that a bad thing,

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making it look as though you must
be evil if you practice witchcraft

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is a great way to keep people down,
to keep people in their place.

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Because from what I can see, most
of the people that were accused

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of witchcraft were actually just
women just living their lives.

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literally just trying to make a
living or trying to assert themselves

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in any way or speaking their mind.

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I sit here today calling myself
a witch because I do work

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that I believe is Magickal.

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I help people in so many ways
with their emotional health, with

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their With their physical health,
with healing and energy work.

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I do do intuitive card reading,
which is just using intuition that

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everybody has to read someone's, um,
fortune or to read their, usually

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it's reading what they already know
about themselves and reiterating or

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validating what they feel and know.

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And I do want to point out that
calling myself a witch may have scared

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quite a few people off knowing that
I live in a place where predominantly

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Mormon culture society here in Utah.

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And that when I offer to do tarot
readings at certain events that my

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local community live daybreak, um,
they consider that to be divisive.

446
00:32:52,064 --> 00:32:58,549
They will allow people to, um, to play
songs and, and do their skills and

447
00:32:58,549 --> 00:33:02,779
services as far as like at public events,
you can play a guitar and sing a song.

448
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,939
But if I sit down with a table and
I read tarot cards, I'm divisive.

449
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:14,219
So I want to end this discussion
today, discussion with

450
00:33:14,219 --> 00:33:16,169
myself, with you listening.

451
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:21,229
With a quote by Paolo Callo, which
is, um, the author of The Alchemist.

452
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:27,089
This quote, he says, A witch is a
woman that is capable of letting her

453
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:32,199
intuition take hold of her actions,
that communes with her environment, and

454
00:33:32,199 --> 00:33:34,719
that isn't afraid of chasing challenges.

455
00:33:36,959 --> 00:33:38,209
We're just regular people.

456
00:33:39,189 --> 00:33:42,639
We're just regular people trying to
make a living or trying to make a,

457
00:33:42,899 --> 00:33:47,559
make the world better or trying to
serve our community if you'll let us.

458
00:33:48,609 --> 00:33:52,629
And so if you've listened to any of this
episode and you're like, what can I do?

459
00:33:53,169 --> 00:33:55,059
I want to be an activist for change.

460
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,279
I don't want capitalism
to keep people down.

461
00:33:57,509 --> 00:34:01,729
And I want to be a catalyst for
change in this world by participating

462
00:34:01,729 --> 00:34:02,849
in it in a different way.

463
00:34:03,749 --> 00:34:05,449
Might I suggest a few action points.

464
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:08,949
First of all, support your local witches.

465
00:34:09,459 --> 00:34:14,049
Even if they don't call themselves
witches, what they are is they are

466
00:34:14,049 --> 00:34:17,549
women trying to make a living and
trying to make their way in the world,

467
00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:23,149
trying to make an independent income,
support them, support their businesses,

468
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:31,429
support mine, book a session with
me, book a card reading with me.

469
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:37,919
If that's something you're inclined
to do, because all I am is someone

470
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:42,229
with gifts and talents that I would
like to offer to the world in exchange

471
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,099
for an energy in the form of money.

472
00:34:44,179 --> 00:34:47,909
Yes, but it helps me support myself.

473
00:34:49,259 --> 00:34:51,069
And that's what we need.

474
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:55,099
Women supporting themselves,
not women giving free labor.

475
00:34:55,739 --> 00:34:56,149
Okay.

476
00:34:56,209 --> 00:35:01,359
Domestic duties at home was a way
for the society and in the capitalist

477
00:35:01,419 --> 00:35:06,879
movement, when capitalism was coming
out of like feudalism, we were creating

478
00:35:06,939 --> 00:35:09,769
capitalism, but we needed women to
stay at home and do women's work.

479
00:35:10,459 --> 00:35:11,999
So women have been doing free labor

480
00:35:14,009 --> 00:35:14,519
forever.

481
00:35:15,974 --> 00:35:17,724
And we no longer need
to participate in that.

482
00:35:17,834 --> 00:35:21,374
We deserve wages and money and
independence for what we give,

483
00:35:21,514 --> 00:35:22,734
for what we offer the world.

484
00:35:23,434 --> 00:35:26,434
So support a woman in business,
support her business and

485
00:35:26,434 --> 00:35:27,724
support what she has to offer.

486
00:35:28,924 --> 00:35:32,214
If you're a woman, I'm going
to suggest that you try this.

487
00:35:33,594 --> 00:35:37,404
There is a movement in place
to say women are going to not

488
00:35:37,404 --> 00:35:39,974
work on June 24th of this year.

489
00:35:40,914 --> 00:35:42,544
So it happened in Iceland.

490
00:35:43,004 --> 00:35:48,794
All of the women in Iceland got together
and said, we deserve same pay raises,

491
00:35:49,464 --> 00:35:52,544
wages, sorry, same pay wages as men.

492
00:35:52,834 --> 00:35:57,054
And just to prove our worth, we are
going to pick a day where none of us

493
00:35:57,054 --> 00:35:58,524
in the whole country are going to work.

494
00:35:58,644 --> 00:36:01,094
And then they can see what
happens when women don't work.

495
00:36:02,214 --> 00:36:03,694
We're doing that on June 24th.

496
00:36:04,344 --> 00:36:05,624
So if you have a job.

497
00:36:06,014 --> 00:36:12,184
When you work, stay home on June 24th,
call in sick, whatever you need to do.

498
00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,524
And I realize this is not going to
have as big of an impact because

499
00:36:15,584 --> 00:36:19,904
teachers are off for the summer anyway,
and a lot of women are teachers.

500
00:36:20,394 --> 00:36:21,814
What would we do without teachers?

501
00:36:23,134 --> 00:36:26,244
I guess we'll know when
teachers go on strike, right?

502
00:36:28,064 --> 00:36:30,024
And I want to offer you this,

503
00:36:32,384 --> 00:36:38,514
that there was a period of time in
the New Testament around, uh, the

504
00:36:38,514 --> 00:36:45,484
time of Jesus when women were creating
incantation bowls, and these were prayers

505
00:36:45,514 --> 00:36:50,754
and blessings written into bowls that
were then used In exchange for money

506
00:36:50,824 --> 00:36:53,294
offered to people who needed blessings.

507
00:36:54,564 --> 00:37:00,574
And these women were making an independent
living selling their incantation bowls.

508
00:37:01,894 --> 00:37:03,504
People were buying them like crazy.

509
00:37:03,604 --> 00:37:08,364
Incantation bowls made by a woman
was found to be far more powerful.

510
00:37:08,964 --> 00:37:11,454
than the scrolls that
the rabbis were selling.

511
00:37:12,404 --> 00:37:16,104
And they became so popular
and they created such an issue

512
00:37:16,114 --> 00:37:18,974
for men that they banned them.

513
00:37:19,714 --> 00:37:23,524
And they even banned women from
being able to write at all.

514
00:37:24,884 --> 00:37:30,334
So keeping women uneducated, keeping
wages for men higher than women,

515
00:37:30,384 --> 00:37:35,024
these are all really great ways
to keep women in the mainstream.

516
00:37:37,864 --> 00:37:41,524
And whatever the witch trials look
like, what they're going to look like

517
00:37:41,524 --> 00:37:46,304
in our modern day society, these are
some ways that we can help keep that

518
00:37:46,304 --> 00:37:52,234
from happening is allow women to have
their place in leadership as someone

519
00:37:52,234 --> 00:37:54,924
who speaks and other people listen.

520
00:37:56,694 --> 00:38:01,784
Women tend to hold the emotional
burden of our entire society.

521
00:38:02,474 --> 00:38:05,114
Men aren't talking to other men
about their emotional problems,

522
00:38:05,154 --> 00:38:06,344
but they will talk to women.

523
00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:11,004
What are we getting in
compensation for that?

524
00:38:12,664 --> 00:38:13,014
Right?

525
00:38:14,054 --> 00:38:15,384
Some things to think about.

526
00:38:15,974 --> 00:38:21,404
And if you're interested in more ways
to be an activist against these, uh,

527
00:38:21,474 --> 00:38:24,714
corrupt, uh, Aspects of capitalism.

528
00:38:24,964 --> 00:38:28,144
Might I suggest next week's episode,
I'm going to talk about being an

529
00:38:28,154 --> 00:38:30,794
activist for change by simply self care.

530
00:38:31,374 --> 00:38:37,324
So I am going to, uh, have another great
episode about how to show up in your daily

531
00:38:37,324 --> 00:38:44,944
life and, um, and kind of fight the man
by just simply having self care and rest.

532
00:38:46,664 --> 00:38:49,904
All right, witches and wizards,
that is our episode today.

533
00:38:49,944 --> 00:38:52,544
I know it was a bit longer
than our typical episode.

534
00:38:52,574 --> 00:38:56,844
I appreciate you sticking it in there with
me because this was a lot of information,

535
00:38:56,844 --> 00:38:59,654
but it was all just so fascinating to me.

536
00:38:59,674 --> 00:39:01,134
I really just couldn't leave anything out.

537
00:39:01,654 --> 00:39:06,434
And I will post all of the resources
for this episode, all of the books and

538
00:39:06,464 --> 00:39:15,854
articles that I used to tell these stories
on my website, which is prism healing.

539
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:16,914
com.

540
00:39:17,644 --> 00:39:21,694
On that website, you will see at the
tab at the top, you will see blog.

541
00:39:21,874 --> 00:39:26,364
You can see a blog post about every
episode that I've had so far on

542
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:31,594
Practically Magick, but you can also
see a list of my services that I offer.

543
00:39:32,384 --> 00:39:32,714
Okay.

544
00:39:32,724 --> 00:39:35,784
And don't be scared of me
because I call myself a witch.

545
00:39:36,314 --> 00:39:39,254
The work that I am doing is healing work.

546
00:39:39,484 --> 00:39:41,264
And I would like to offer that to you.

547
00:39:41,794 --> 00:39:44,854
So please look at my website
for information on those

548
00:39:44,854 --> 00:39:45,964
services that I offer.

549
00:39:45,964 --> 00:39:49,214
Reiki healing appointments and
emotional processing appointments.

550
00:39:49,654 --> 00:39:53,464
And of course, I always offer
a free 30 minute consultation.

551
00:39:53,484 --> 00:39:57,664
If you don't know which of my
services you need, or you don't need.

552
00:39:58,094 --> 00:40:01,544
understand what it is I'm offering,
or you have questions about that.

553
00:40:02,674 --> 00:40:05,404
Just give me a call and we'll
schedule something where we can

554
00:40:05,404 --> 00:40:06,604
discuss those things together.

555
00:40:08,274 --> 00:40:12,454
Don't forget to look at my events
page on my website because I do

556
00:40:12,464 --> 00:40:16,944
have a Tarot for Tips event coming
up and I have a Healing Through Art

557
00:40:16,944 --> 00:40:18,544
workshop at the end of the month.

558
00:40:19,134 --> 00:40:24,694
I also have a Heart Smart Art workshop
for kids and parents, which is an

559
00:40:24,694 --> 00:40:30,914
emotional Intelligence workshop using
art to help kids with their emotional

560
00:40:30,914 --> 00:40:33,754
healing and their emotional awareness.

561
00:40:35,684 --> 00:40:37,844
And as always, I want you
to private message me with

562
00:40:37,884 --> 00:40:39,294
any questions that you have.

563
00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:40,924
You might be featured on my episodes.

564
00:40:41,549 --> 00:40:45,619
As a question from a listener, if you
have any questions about Magick healing

565
00:40:45,619 --> 00:40:52,089
and energy work, you might be able to
private message me on my website or on my

566
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:58,469
Instagram, Prism underscore healing or on
Facebook, Courtney Pearl and my Facebook

567
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:00,749
page, Courtney Pearl's Prism Healing.

568
00:41:01,879 --> 00:41:02,649
So look for that.

569
00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:04,409
I'm very excited to hear from you.

570
00:41:04,409 --> 00:41:07,419
And especially if you have any
comments or questions about this

571
00:41:07,459 --> 00:41:11,999
episode in particular, I would love
to hear it or just pop on and say hi.

572
00:41:13,609 --> 00:41:21,379
I would like to thank Alan Menke
for producing some of my favorite

573
00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:25,549
podcasts ever and where I got a lot
of inspiration for this episode.

574
00:41:26,849 --> 00:41:30,199
Makes the lore podcast and unobscured.

575
00:41:31,439 --> 00:41:38,059
I would like to thank Just Blane at
Ride the Wave Media and host of Radio

576
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:43,019
Daybreak who produces my episodes and who
gives me a lot of inspiration and ideas

577
00:41:43,059 --> 00:41:44,939
on what I'm going to talk about next.

578
00:41:45,929 --> 00:41:50,099
And I would like to thank Sarah
at Daybreak Treasures Boutique

579
00:41:50,499 --> 00:41:54,689
for featuring me as an artist and
sponsoring my workshops and events.

580
00:41:55,729 --> 00:41:59,059
Go make Magick, witches and wizards,
and I will see you next time.