Deep Dive into 'The Wicker Man' and 'Midsommar'

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Oh my gosh, I'm scared already.

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Are you scared, Courtney?

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Oh yeah.

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The violin, the witch, witch laughing.

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Like what in the world
have we started here?

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Like, what is this?

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What is this?

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Why are we here?

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This is the witch movie project, as
you probably have figured out by now.

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If you've clicked on this, you've
seen it, you saw the logo, you

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saw our   amazing pictures.

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We've got those taken
down at the, uh, the mall.

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Remember that, Courtney?

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Yeah, I had to polish my horns.

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Well,

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So let's tell people out there how
this project really came about.

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And you know what?

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I'll just tell you.

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This is my selfish  project.

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And basically these  were the
movies I was going to watch anyway.

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I just was looking for a  sucker
to talk to me about them with.

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And instead of a
sucker,   found a real witch.

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Who could  actually bring some insight
to these movies that I, I really do  love

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the, the, the horror genre,   period.

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And then the sub genres of witch, folk
horror, you know, all these other things.

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And Courtney,   Courtney here,
Courtney Pearl, host of Practically

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Magic  on Ride the Wave Media.

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I'm just Blane, by the way.

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Host of Radio Daybreak,
CEO of Ride the Wave Media.

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But,  Courtney.

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Tell me,  I asked you, how did
you think this was going to go?

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I love movies and I thought to
myself, there's probably a lot of

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movies made about witches that are
portraying them in a certain light.

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Maybe I can  bring some insight into
paganism and, um, and also share my

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love of the movies and how they're made.

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You do that very well as
we've been  working on this.

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Now, this is, this is, we've been
talking  about this all summer long and

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we had a list  of probably 40 movies
and then we narrowed it down  and then

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we decided to pair these movies  up.

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Courtney, tell us how this is actually
going to work for the people out there.

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This is the first episode, so
you haven't missed anything yet.

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Oh yeah, and you can always go back.

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We have two movies we're
reviewing every episode.

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Well, sometimes there's
a little bonus third one.

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I'll just tease that out  there,

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Oh,

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we  have two movies each week.

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We're reviewing, picking  apart, going
into detail about, and   and even

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sharing some of our experiences with
this movie and watching the  movies.

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And it's all leading up
to a final  event, Alive.

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Broadcast.

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Podcast of our show   while
watching a witch movie with us.

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boy.

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I cannot wait.

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Listen, this event.

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is going to be on October 26th,
presented by Novel  Daybreak

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by Crescent Communities.

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We love this place.

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There's their, there's
their and their card.

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Listen,

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We love them.

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I fell in love with this location

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the first time I ever walked there,
and we've been, we've been at

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Novel  time and time again now, and
I can't wait to, to go  and see it.

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and partner up with them and have this
event because  literally this is going to

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be us doing a live podcast taping   and
showing the movie that you guys vote.

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We're going to let, is that
how it's going to work?

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We're going to let them vote between
two movies and we're going to break it

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I can't wait.

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this is kind of inspired, I'm not going
to say it, kind of, this was inspired  by

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Joe Bob Briggs and what he's done for 40
plus years of keeping the drive  in alive.

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And we're just going to have to do a drive
in  inside because we don't have one yet.

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But this is a passion  project
and I'm super excited   about it.

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I know you're amped up about
it, like, how can you not be?

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I'm all in.

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All in.

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in.

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The first episode, stick
around for it right now.

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The first two movies were not witch
movies, but they were  folk horror movies.

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And I think it was a great, I think
it's going to be a really  good

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setup and foundation for the rest
of  what we talk about later on.

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As this series progresses,
takes you through September,

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October, and who knows?

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It might go  forever.

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For eternity.

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What do you think, Courtney?

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Could you do this forever?

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Possibly.

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We should I hope we get Not only
invited to host some more movie

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screenings, but hey, maybe we end up
in our own horror movie at some point.

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What do you think about that?

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Hey, and I'd be open to doing a,
a rom com series for Valentine's

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Day or something like that.

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I love that idea.

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Let's go see this first episode.

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Make sure we get some people hooked here
before we start planning the rest of it.

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All right.

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Okay.

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All right, Courtney.

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Let's get to our first two movies.

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I know we set this thing up as
like, uh, the witch movie project.

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Our first two, though, don't
necessarily involve witches.

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Am I right?

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Per se, per se, right?

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Not on the surface, not on the surface.

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We are actually going to start with

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the folk horror genre.

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Am I right there?

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That's, that's what this is.

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It's, it's

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Yeah.

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Folk horror.

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And we don't want to, we don't want
to give away the movies just yet.

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Even though you probably just
read the show notes or the

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title and figured it out.

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But Let's just say that one of these folk
horror movies started this whole thing.

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It started the genre, it started,
it very much inspired the other one.

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Now, I'm not talking about Blood
on Satan's Claw, that was 1971,

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that was a little bit earlier.

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Or, The Witchfinder General,
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folk horror movie in 1968.

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This one was a couple years later,
but it really put on the map.

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This genre and Courtney, I brought
you into this and said, Hey,

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you got to check this movie.

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I don't think you'd ever seen
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that we're going to talk about.

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No, And I love horror movies.

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I mean, I love movies.

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I'm a movie buff anyway.

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So I'm a little torn because
when you look at like.

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themes of paganism and witchcraft in
horror movies, I'm torn with the idea

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of the propaganda against witchcraft,
but also the movie is so good.

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So I get you gotta love it.

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Heh heh.

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the first movie we were talking
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tell you the name in a minute.

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You've already, you've
probably already guessed it.

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The next movie very much took
inspiration from this movie.

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There's no way it didn't.

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Uh, I believe the
directors even said that.

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Yes, absolutely.

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And it's.

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Pagan festival.

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Uh, now

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this thing These two
movies are disturbing.

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Let's just set that up.

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We should say that up front.

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This is disturbing content.

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So It's gonna be fucked up That's
that's the way to put it right courtney.

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Oh yeah, and I even read that, um, the

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studio

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execs wanted, um, the makers of this
movie to, um, write a happy ending.

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Um, you know, I'm going to
assume That we can spoil things.

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This is for an audience that watches
the movie or who will watch it spoiled.

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So, they wanted rain, basically,
to end the movie and uh, the, uh,

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the creators, director, writers
of the movie were like, nope.

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Yeah,

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No, we're ending it.

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just like it is.

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They stood their ground and that's
that's that even back, you know,

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that's hard to do in hollywood That's
hard to do anytime in hollywood.

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The first movie we're talking
about is the wicker man

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point blank wicker man You've already
guessed it in our second movie.

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Courtney You

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Midsummer.

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one of them 1977 so not the
more recent Wicker Man Right?

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73. 73. 1973.

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73.

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Right.

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We've got a movie from
1977 on another show.

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That's, uh, Suspiria.

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Oh Yeah.

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I got it mixed up.

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So that's a teaser for the next one.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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But

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let's start with Wicker Man.

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Yes.

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this thing, you got some
heavy hitters in this movie.

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You had, uh, oh, Christopher Lee,

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Yes.

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Who said

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this

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was his favorite movie to be in?

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which I was a little shocked.

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I mean, he's been in a
lot of really good stuff

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And, um, he said that not only was this
his favorite movie to be in, but he thinks

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he had, he did the best in this movie.

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Of all the movies that he's been

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in.

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He, like, praising his own performance.

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So, I'm like, that's a big deal.

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don't know.

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I know Christopher, Christopher Lee
even would take interviews With anybody

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and everybody to talk about this movie.

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He didn't take one with us.

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You know, we didn't ask him
We maybe maybe we'll check

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Not yet.

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But but he would so it'd be really
weird for Farmers out in iowa to turn on

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their morning tv and there's christopher
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the 70s This is before social media.

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So it's not everybody doing a selfie
So to see a bona fide celebrity

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on your local television channel

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mind blowing right like that's crazy.

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Yeah Yeah, and

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he must have really wanted to do
this project because he actually

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did not accept payment for

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I love it That that's that's insane to me.

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Is that amazing?

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He was so eager to step away from
the sort of Dracula villain that he

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had played, he was sort of getting
typecast, and he was so willing to do

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something different than that, that
he was like, I'll do this project.

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for free.

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Hey,

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Amazing,

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another all star performance in
this movie is Edward Woodward.

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Now, he's the one who, from the very
beginning of the movie, uh, he goes to

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the island, he's Sergeant Howie, and he
goes to this remote, let's just set it

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up, he goes to this remote Scottish island

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Mm hmm.

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because there's a disappearance
of a girl named Rowan.

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Now, When he gets to this island, right
off the jump, you, you already know,

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like, something, something's not right.

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Like, it, it's, sure, it looks
bright and cozy, but even when

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he looks at the dark across the
way, something, something's off.

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Something's off.

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It's the atmosphere,

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of elderly gentlemen standing
there waiting for him to arrive.

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Um, I also took note that the boat
that brought him from the plane, um,

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had the evil eye on it, um, a symbol of,
uh, protection or perhaps even, um, uh,

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depending on how you use it, it could
be towards someone as like a curse,

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like someone's eye is on you, or there's
someone's jealous or envious eye on you.

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So, just a quick shot.

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I, I took note of

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let me give you a little, let me give
you a little trivia on that boat.

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So that boat was actually
owned by a resident there.

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That's, that was not a prop.

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It was owned by a resident
there and they used that boat.

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That boat stood until about
2004, somewhere in there.

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And then it, I think it
disappeared or got destroyed.

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That was not a prop.

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The evil eye boat was actually there.

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Um,

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that is interesting.

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Yeah.

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That means that that was still a
pretty prevalent tradition there.

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And I know there are a lot of like
remote areas of Italy and, um, you

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know, islands that still very much in
the tradition of using the Evil Eye.

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Um, I think it's making a comeback too,

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So.

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evil eye is making a comeback.

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I mean, everybody hits that evil
eye sometimes, you know, you've

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got to lock it in on people.

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So

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the movie though,

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from Mayer, you just feel this, uh,
you can, it's, it's almost like.

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It's like the rollercoaster and it just
goes straight down because you start

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delving into this you get encapsulated
by this Atmosphere that's crazy.

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Um, I I described this movie
when you watch this movie

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you you it's one of those that
You're not just watching a movie.

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You're like, oh my god,
there's something special here.

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This is something different Whether that's
a good thing or a bad thing you get this

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this sense of dread both these movies do

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Yeah.

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And aren't you just as frustrated
walking through interviewing these

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townspeople when Sergeant Howie is in.

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in, um, interviewing people.

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He cannot get a straight
answer out of anybody.

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The first, the group of men on the dock,
it's like, have you seen this woman?

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It is, have you seen this little girl?

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Do you know who she is?

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They're like, nope, no idea.

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We don't know who that is.

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And then they're like,

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do

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you know this woman?

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Oh, yeah, we know May.

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She works the post office.

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And then they're like, well,
does she have a daughter?

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Oh, that's not her daughter though.

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Yeah

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Everywhere he goes, it's like, does this

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girl exist?

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And people are like, no,
maybe She may be dead.

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We don't know.

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And all along, you can, You

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can see Sergeant Howie slowly driving
himself mad, going like there.

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It's, it's taking its toll
on, on Sergeant Howie.

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And it, it takes its toll on you
as a, as a viewer watching this.

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It takes its toll on you because
you're like, give me a straight answer.

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Um, because as a viewer, you
don't know what's going on.

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You, you really don't know.

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Well, who is this rowing girl?

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You, you're not really sure.

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When he opens up the casket later
on the movie, which we'll get to,

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Mm hmm.

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but this, but this atmosphere,

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bright, sunny,

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Yeah.

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dark,

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disturbing stuff happening, uh, you
know, it's two, two giant contrast of

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how to make this thing come together.

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It's, it's, it's wild how that the,
uh, it's, it's, it's crazy how the

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director put all this together.

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And thought this out that I can make
it this happy looking place, but

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there's this real dark underbelly Robin
Hardy did a great job of doing it.

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So

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Isn't that just, um, similar to Midsommar?

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It's the same idea.

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And I'll, I'll, you know, kind of get to
this later when we talk about that movie.

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But in comparison,

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they're

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both like kind of idyllic
places on the surface, right?

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Like the sunny community
feeling, everyone knows everyone.

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It seems like this community
really does know how to come

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together and support each other.

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And there's, um, cycles of.

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uh, death and rebirth and they're
all kind of involved in it.

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So it's, I mean, on the surface, without
the dark underbelly of what's really going

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on, you kind of get a sense of like, well,
this wouldn't be a bad place to live.

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I don't mind this.

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Right.

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absolutely absolutely, and They
paint that picture very well.

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You're like, oh, it's not that bad.

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But if you really look, there are tiny
details that in both movies that show

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you that things are not as they seem.

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You have in the Wicker Man,

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they're going wild in the bar.

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Like that bar scene is already crazy.

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You

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And what they're

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singing about, it's like, ew.

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Like dirty old men talking
about the, uh, um, singing.

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Um, some kind of folk song
about the landlord's daughter,

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it's,

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and how promiscuous he is.

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yeah, it's crazy.

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And then you had Willow
played by Brett Eklund.

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Willow, the barkeep, you got
the naked dance from her.

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Uh, Which,

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Which I have some info by

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the

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oh yeah, go ahead with that.

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I wanna hear that.

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Yeah.

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So, um, when doing some research on the,
uh, kind of background, I looked at, um,

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Mental Floss had done, um, Mental Floss
Magazine or Mental Floss, uh, website did

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some background on this movie and it was
really fascinating because Brit Eklund,

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who plays Willow, the landlord,
the innkeeper's daughter.

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um, she did.

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She did not do her singing and voice.

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She had someone dub, someone dubbed
over the singing and voice because she

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didn't quite get the Scottish accent.

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Couldn't quite get it right.

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Um, so that was dubbed over.

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She had a, uh, a butt double.

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So when it shows her dancing
from behind, it's not her.

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I think she,

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but she, had,

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you can actually see when the dancer
does the, the head turn, you can

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actually see the face in one shot.

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And it's not her.

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You're like, man, that's
not, that's not her.

366
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No, I think the hair is even
like way longer than her

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hair.

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It's a blonde woman for sure, but it's
like, no, it doesn't quite match up.

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Um, but what's interesting is that,
um, because she did kind of semi nude

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scenes in that dancing part, she's kind
of trying to seduce the main character.

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Um, I guess she had dated Rod Stewart,
uh, later, and he was very jealous of

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her having done those scenes, and he
tried to get the negatives from the

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film and, um, burn them or destroy them
because he didn't like the fact that

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that image and her nakedness was out
there in the world and things like that.

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He wasn't able to get those.

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The, uh, the originals.

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So, it's just interesting.

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I do think that the movie was
banned for just a little bit when

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it first came out because of that,
even though it was a but double, not

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even, it wasn't even Brit Ecklin.

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Yeah.

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was just the type of scenes with
her anything below the waist was not

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her but they still He still he still
held it up, which is that's wild.

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That's wild.

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The 70s were a different time.

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Hey

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I know, it was interesting, it was
interesting because I'm not, I had seen

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many movies from that, that era, but I
did make note as we were watching, like,

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the opening sequence and, uh, he gets

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to

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the uh, sweets shop to talk to what's
supposed to be the missing girl's mother

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and, The, um, the woman's daughter is
there and they're, she's painting a

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rabbit and I, I just took note of like
the aesthetics in that scene is I was like

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why are all the sweets in the sweet shop?

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It seems like the sweets and stuffed
animals made around that time are

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all so hideously ugly and creepy.

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yeah

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I had to write it down.

399
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I was like, why are they
always so weird looking?

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They weren't cuddly or sweet
or, or delicious looking.

401
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They all look a little

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gross to me.

403
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yeah.

404
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Maybe it's just my, when I was
born time period, but that's just

405
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but we got to talk about that We got
to talk about just the background stuff

406
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the set like there's there's a hit
and stuff all throughout both movies

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wicker man Like I said the bar scene.

408
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I mean the hotel itself is called
the green with the green man in You

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Green Man Inn, yep,

410
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Yep.

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got some relevance.

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God of the Forest, Green Man is something
that even in today's, um, Neopagan

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Circles, uh, are very well known.

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He's the cycle of birth, death,
and rebirth, which is a theme

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that you see a lot in this movie.

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So, um,

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Green Man Inn, it fits definitely.

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What I have to say about,

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uh,

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in the making of this movie,
both movies actually, is, um, I'm

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impressed with the research done.

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I

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actually expected a lot of
things to be incorrect and

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made up because I I don't know.

425
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I just thought a movie being made in
1973 would be like, we'll just throw

426
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a bunch of stuff that looks pagan or
that looks like what we think pagan

427
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is, but we don't, you know, not have
to be real about it, But I'm impressed.

428
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They did their research and a
lot of the stuff in this movie

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is from actual pagan influences.

430
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I mean, the, so the apples, I
mean, is apple is an apple not a

431
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symbol of something that's pagan.

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Tell me, do you know what that is?

433
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Like, what is that?

434
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Because they were everywhere and
even very early on in the movie,

435
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you, you start seeing apple pop up

436
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Yes.

437
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And the apple is a very, uh, very
prominent symbol of the Isle of Apples,

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which is the Isle of Avalon in King
Arthur tradition, or in, the legend

439
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of King Arthur, Arthurian legend.

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legend.

441
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Yeah.

442
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Yes.

443
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The Isle of Apples is the island
shrouded in mist that is, you know,

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world, and it's where the witch of
Morgan Le Fay, Arthur's sister lives,

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and he gets taken there for healing.

446
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so, you know, a place of evil, a
place of magic, or a place of healing.

447
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It can be all of those things.

448
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It's, References, all those things.

449
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And so apples and apple orchards
are, you'll see a lot of that symbol,

450
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the star that you make
when you cut an apple.

451
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The seeds are in a five star.

452
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There's symbology in that.

453
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So,

454
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Interesting.

455
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Now, now what other symbology or
symbolism did you, did you capture?

456
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Did you catch in this movie that I, I
might have missed, you know, 'cause my.

457
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My non, you know, my non Celtic priestess
eye didn't this stuff, so what did I miss?

458
00:21:46,165 --> 00:21:46,415
Oh,

459
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that's what I was looking for.

460
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I was like in, into it, looking
in all of the like corners of

461
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everything, looking for symbols.

462
00:21:56,035 --> 00:22:00,805
Um, I did notice that some of the lyrics
in the songs as you're listening, I

463
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always read, I always watch a movie
with subtitles, so I got to write

464
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down like some of the symbols, um,
one of the symbol, uh, one of the,

465
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um, Lyrics in the song said
Fair Maid White and Red.

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I

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believe it's Willow singing

468
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it when she's seducing the
sergeant with her little naked

469
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dance that she's doing in the other room.

470
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But she, um, talks about Fair Maid White
and Red, and white and red are, uh,

471
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symbols in England of, like, the black
and the white, or the dark and the light.

472
00:22:31,895 --> 00:22:36,895
Um, The colors on the English flag
are, um, and the, on the royal

473
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crest are usually white and red.

474
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in Glastonbury, they have the
sacred springs, which are the

475
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white spring and the red spring.

476
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Interesting.

477
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The part of it symbolizes, like,
divinity, some of it, and then the

478
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red symbolizing, like, the blood
and the bloodline, of royalty.

479
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And I think it's really interesting that,
and I'm going to kind of skip around

480
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a little bit because I'm talking about
the ending a little bit for a second.

481
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They needed somebody
who was a virgin, right?

482
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And if you've seen the movie,
you know what I mean when I

483
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say they needed someone, but

484
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she's trying to seduce him here.

485
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,180
She's trying to see,
like, she's testing him.

486
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,830
And in a lot of Celtic

487
00:23:19,255 --> 00:23:20,535
There

488
00:23:20,825 --> 00:23:22,565
are sovereignty goddesses.

489
00:23:23,215 --> 00:23:27,455
and the sovereignty goddesses role
is to test someone to To make sure

490
00:23:27,455 --> 00:23:31,555
they're worthy of something, to be
worthy of, of kingship, usually.

491
00:23:32,115 --> 00:23:36,695
So, you know, here we have
Willow kind of playing the part

492
00:23:36,725 --> 00:23:38,035
of this sovereignty goddess.

493
00:23:38,175 --> 00:23:41,555
She's kind of testing him with
her, like, I thought you were going

494
00:23:41,555 --> 00:23:43,205
to come to my room last night.

495
00:23:43,235 --> 00:23:46,575
And he's like, Oh, well, I actually
don't believe in that before marriage.

496
00:23:46,575 --> 00:23:49,630
She's And she's like, too bad.

497
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:50,960
And

498
00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:53,270
we find out later that was
actually an important part.

499
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,660
Like they needed that.

500
00:23:54,670 --> 00:23:55,090
Right.

501
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:55,720
So

502
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:56,900
it's just interesting.

503
00:23:57,260 --> 00:24:00,660
if, he had have fallen
for the siren willow,

504
00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:01,940
Yeah.

505
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,180
would that have, would the movie
have just ended there with a

506
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:06,850
nice sex scene and we're out?

507
00:24:06,990 --> 00:24:08,840
Because they wouldn't have
had a virgin anymore, right?

508
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,420
Yeah.

509
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:10,290
I

510
00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:12,320
wonder that I've, I thought about that.

511
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,640
I'm like, maybe.

512
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,690
It would have saved his life, if you will.

513
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,040
So,

514
00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:20,440
sex will save your life.

515
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,020
I don't think we can actually
promote that but sure, you know,

516
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:27,820
I mean, in most horror films,
sex is usually the thing that

517
00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:28,780
kills, the, gets the people

518
00:24:28,780 --> 00:24:29,090
killed.

519
00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:29,450
Right.

520
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:29,560
I

521
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,890
mean, that's usually typically
the theme that we see.

522
00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:32,820
So

523
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,880
in this case,

524
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,090
We're onto something.

525
00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:35,270
there.

526
00:24:35,270 --> 00:24:37,030
There's there's something there now

527
00:24:39,010 --> 00:24:43,330
We gotta talk more about this music
because one of the main symbols

528
00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:45,830
in this thing was the maypole now

529
00:24:47,395 --> 00:24:49,635
Oh, I gotta talk about this.

530
00:24:50,095 --> 00:24:50,715
Is that not

531
00:24:51,055 --> 00:24:51,455
interesting?

532
00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:55,450
now when when we when we see
sergeant howie walking through

533
00:24:56,530 --> 00:25:03,275
and He walks past the maypole with
the kids dancing around it and they're

534
00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:06,615
singing that song the first time i
saw i had to run it back i had to run

535
00:25:06,615 --> 00:25:10,375
it back and see and hear this song
again but it's i've got the lyrics

536
00:25:11,225 --> 00:25:11,495
I

537
00:25:11,585 --> 00:25:11,735
did

538
00:25:11,735 --> 00:25:11,985
too.

539
00:25:12,575 --> 00:25:13,395
I wrote them down.

540
00:25:13,405 --> 00:25:14,265
I'm like, ooh.

541
00:25:14,825 --> 00:25:18,185
it's the one where it says in the
woods there grew a tree and a fine

542
00:25:18,195 --> 00:25:22,835
fine tree was he i might have to
go out into song here and on that

543
00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:24,165
Could be a musical.

544
00:25:24,255 --> 00:25:28,065
yeah and on that land there was a branch
and on that branch there was a nest and

545
00:25:28,065 --> 00:25:32,650
in that nest now this thing just goes on
and on and on And it goes all the way to

546
00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:37,340
from the, that grave, there grew a tree,
which is the whole cycle of it, right?

547
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:38,860
Yes,

548
00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:43,530
you see symbols of death and rebirth
all through this movie, everywhere,

549
00:25:43,847 --> 00:25:49,830
including when the sergeant has a
flashback of his Christian, um, sacrament.

550
00:25:50,260 --> 00:25:53,980
They're talking about resurrection and
the death of Christ and the rebirth of

551
00:25:53,980 --> 00:26:00,280
Christ and so even in his Christian come
from, we're seeing those same symbols

552
00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:04,910
come through this movie over and over
and over again, which is fascinating and

553
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,350
the Maypole, that song.

554
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:07,800
for sure.

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,110
It's talking about, like,
the cycle of, uh, death.

556
00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:19,140
It says, um, On the tree made
a bed, on the bed laid a woman,

557
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:21,150
on the woman there was a man,

558
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,680
from

559
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,100
the man there came a seed, from
the seed there came a boy, from

560
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,400
the boy there grew a man, and
from that man there was a grave.

561
00:26:31,145 --> 00:26:35,345
So you're like, birth,
death cycles again, right?

562
00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:38,080
and then that's just a, you could
loop that over and over and over.

563
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,580
That's what it is.

564
00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:42,130
It was the 18 year cycles or
something is what they, they lived on.

565
00:26:42,270 --> 00:26:43,470
Seasons, they called it.

566
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,260
They even, they even say,
Hey, what happens at 72?

567
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:52,280
Well, we're going to go and
they don't, it's wild though.

568
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:52,540
Right.

569
00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:53,000
Um,

570
00:26:53,995 --> 00:26:54,475
Yeah.

571
00:26:54,635 --> 00:26:55,085
We find

572
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:56,265
out what happens.

573
00:26:56,895 --> 00:27:00,165
So, what I thought was interesting
about the Maypole in this,

574
00:27:00,515 --> 00:27:01,835
um, in this scene,

575
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,480
The seasons were in midsummer, right?

576
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,155
The 18 year.

577
00:27:04,315 --> 00:27:05,565
the seasons were midsummer.

578
00:27:05,645 --> 00:27:07,255
Yeah, but same themes.

579
00:27:07,575 --> 00:27:10,215
The same themes are running
through each movie, kind of in

580
00:27:10,215 --> 00:27:11,625
their, in their different way.

581
00:27:12,055 --> 00:27:16,995
But, uh, I thought it was interesting that
they had young boys doing the Maypole.

582
00:27:16,995 --> 00:27:17,015
Yeah.

583
00:27:18,315 --> 00:27:22,815
That's not typically what
you see in pagan situations.

584
00:27:22,815 --> 00:27:26,015
I mean, like, just from what I know
about the tradition is that it's

585
00:27:26,015 --> 00:27:28,925
usually the maidens or the young
women of the village that are doing

586
00:27:28,932 --> 00:27:33,385
the maypole because the pole is
itself a phallic symbol of fertility.

587
00:27:33,775 --> 00:27:34,295
So,

588
00:27:34,355 --> 00:27:37,235
We see nothing but females
around the Maypole in Midsommar.

589
00:27:37,635 --> 00:27:39,585
So, that's a great point to point out.

590
00:27:40,635 --> 00:27:41,405
Was there something deeper

591
00:27:41,665 --> 00:27:42,635
I was kind of wondering about

592
00:27:42,635 --> 00:27:42,945
that.

593
00:27:43,935 --> 00:27:48,465
Um, that's, yeah, that's
interesting because Huh.

594
00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:49,555
I never noticed that.

595
00:27:49,555 --> 00:27:50,535
Thank you for pointing that out.

596
00:27:51,105 --> 00:27:53,985
There is this huge clash though of the

597
00:27:55,420 --> 00:27:57,860
Religion and culture, basically.

598
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,890
I just call it culture because they
even tell them this is the culture.

599
00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,900
Both movies tell you this is the culture.

600
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:03,890
This is what we're raised in.

601
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,510
This is what we're happy with.

602
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,280
But the religion side
is like, no, no, no, no.

603
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,500
You can't be happy with that.

604
00:28:09,530 --> 00:28:10,890
That's not how it works.

605
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:16,360
When Lord Summerisle
and Sergeant Howie meet

606
00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:22,340
and they have the discussion and
he says, you've got fake biology.

607
00:28:22,445 --> 00:28:23,980
You've got fake religion.

608
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:25,445
What is this?

609
00:28:26,110 --> 00:28:30,650
And he says, basically, he said, did
these kids even know who Jesus is?

610
00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:34,540
And he hits him with that one,
that one line, basically, where

611
00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:42,150
he says, uh, wasn't Jesus born a
virgin and impacted by a ghost?

612
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,000
And then you see,

613
00:28:44,095 --> 00:28:45,165
I wrote that down too.

614
00:28:45,525 --> 00:28:46,935
I was like, perfect.

615
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:50,010
you see his face, you see
Sergeant Howie's face.

616
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,590
And then, and then Lord
Summeris even says,

617
00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:56,540
sit down to absorb the shock.

618
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,930
But it's when you put it in that
context, he just made those, he made,

619
00:29:01,930 --> 00:29:04,150
he made their culture, their paganism.

620
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,890
Even with that first world religion,
we'll just call it, because right

621
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,980
there, the, the stories without
the names on it was no different.

622
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:17,440
And he showed him that that was a hard,
that was right in the middle of the movie.

623
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,530
To me, that was one of the hardest
hitting moments in that movie

624
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,510
to, to show it tight together.

625
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:23,440
Um,

626
00:29:24,715 --> 00:29:29,615
Yeah, because it shows you that, It
doesn't make, like, even if they're all

627
00:29:29,615 --> 00:29:35,505
just stories, or let's say they're all
made up, these gods, these deities, these,

628
00:29:36,305 --> 00:29:44,145
whatever it is, um, or Jesus born from
a virgin, but conceived by a ghost, um,

629
00:29:45,185 --> 00:29:45,375
it

630
00:29:45,375 --> 00:29:48,385
doesn't make any of them less sacred.

631
00:29:49,045 --> 00:29:53,205
You, I mean, you can argue that
they could all be just as sacred.

632
00:29:53,295 --> 00:29:55,015
It's the meaning we put behind it.

633
00:29:55,015 --> 00:29:56,225
It's the devotion.

634
00:29:56,515 --> 00:29:59,705
And obviously, Sergeant Howey
is very devoted to his faith

635
00:29:59,995 --> 00:30:01,935
and very devoted to his values.

636
00:30:02,555 --> 00:30:07,215
But what we're seeing, even in today's
culture, is when does that, You know,

637
00:30:07,215 --> 00:30:10,475
perpetuate onto other people and what
they should or shouldn't believe.

638
00:30:11,015 --> 00:30:14,755
I love the way that the school teacher
explains death and she's like, well,

639
00:30:14,765 --> 00:30:19,676
when we die, we become the trees and we
become the plants and we become the air.

640
00:30:20,525 --> 00:30:26,000
And I'm, it reminded me of, uh,
when an interview with Neil Tyson

641
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,635
Degrassi, the famous scientists,
most people know, um, he's kind of,

642
00:30:31,105 --> 00:30:33,265
kind of our modern age Einstein.

643
00:30:33,295 --> 00:30:35,435
We all look to him for scientific.

644
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,140
Uh, expertise.

645
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:41,050
And I saw an interview where
they asked, um, so what, do you

646
00:30:41,050 --> 00:30:42,170
believe in life after death?

647
00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:44,140
What do you, what do you
believe happens after we die?

648
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,250
And he basically said almost the exact
same thing this teacher just described,

649
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:53,490
which is our energy gets reformatted into
the, into the earth and into the sky and

650
00:30:53,522 --> 00:30:56,460
into the consciousness of, um, all beings.

651
00:30:56,510 --> 00:31:00,190
And like, energetically,
this is what we know.

652
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,370
This scientifically, this is
what we know about energy.

653
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880
So it's like, what's
really the difference here?

654
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:09,320
I mean, one comes with a story, the
other is a scientific explanation,

655
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:12,750
but is anyone really wrong or right?

656
00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:15,420
Or, yeah, so.

657
00:31:15,465 --> 00:31:16,735
very interesting and

658
00:31:17,925 --> 00:31:22,885
I love how I honestly I in the 70s, I
wonder how this went over, you know,

659
00:31:22,885 --> 00:31:27,755
I wonder in that era Were people
open to this idea were they like?

660
00:31:27,755 --> 00:31:30,795
Oh, yeah I'd love to live on this
island who cared like that sounds

661
00:31:30,795 --> 00:31:33,535
like my kind of living or is it

662
00:31:34,695 --> 00:31:36,695
Terrifying like do you
see that wicker man?

663
00:31:37,265 --> 00:31:41,335
The only modern day thing I can think
of for that here is burning man But they

664
00:31:41,335 --> 00:31:46,585
don't put a person in that statue when
they burn it Um, how about that reaction?

665
00:31:47,315 --> 00:31:48,835
That he, when he walked over the hill,

666
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,700
Yeah,

667
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:50,810
did you see that?

668
00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:53,360
I noticed that too, um, that

669
00:31:53,530 --> 00:31:55,540
they did not prepare him.

670
00:31:55,540 --> 00:32:00,950
He had not seen, um, the actor
had not seen the Wicker Man until

671
00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:03,265
they pulled him into that scene.

672
00:32:03,295 --> 00:32:05,055
So the recording, the reaction was

673
00:32:06,215 --> 00:32:07,025
perfectly genuine.

674
00:32:07,255 --> 00:32:07,655
right?

675
00:32:07,755 --> 00:32:08,185
Yeah.

676
00:32:08,205 --> 00:32:11,145
And also when he got in that thing,
here's a, it is a funny note.

677
00:32:11,235 --> 00:32:14,505
When he got in there, they actually had a
goat above him and the goat peed on him.

678
00:32:14,885 --> 00:32:16,105
Uh, so that's

679
00:32:16,185 --> 00:32:16,385
Yeah,

680
00:32:16,385 --> 00:32:21,535
Yeah, no animals were harmed
in the making of this movie.

681
00:32:21,545 --> 00:32:24,105
However, the goat did

682
00:32:24,265 --> 00:32:25,255
the goat did pee.

683
00:32:26,275 --> 00:32:26,595
I bet,

684
00:32:26,645 --> 00:32:26,955
he was a

685
00:32:26,955 --> 00:32:27,063
bet

686
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:28,545
A little bit.

687
00:32:28,845 --> 00:32:31,625
Edward Woodward gives a hell
of a performance right there.

688
00:32:31,625 --> 00:32:33,895
I guarantee, he had to be
terrified out of his mind.

689
00:32:34,365 --> 00:32:36,590
Uh, Because they actually
burnt that thing.

690
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,510
Like, and I don't know
what that consists of.

691
00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:41,160
Like, I don't know if that's a couple
of guys drinking a six pack of beer

692
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,250
saying, all right, we'll get it here.

693
00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:43,460
I don't know.

694
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:47,610
That's how I would run it, but
I'm not an arsonist or whatever.

695
00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:49,790
What are you going to have
a legal license to do that?

696
00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:51,190
Yeah.

697
00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:53,760
Well, I do want to note one thing
about the scene when he comes

698
00:32:53,770 --> 00:32:55,760
back to talk to Lord Summerisle.

699
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:59,920
Um, when, when he's playing the
piano and they're kind of discussing,

700
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,400
uh, it was the second time I
think that they came back around.

701
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:09,360
Um, he is wearing a, uh, lace collar,
uh, I think they called it a jabot or

702
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,390
jabot, I'm not sure how you say it,
but, um, I said if he wanted to get

703
00:33:13,390 --> 00:33:17,350
away from the Dracula, uh, performances,
this maybe wasn't doing him any

704
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:17,780
favors.

705
00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:22,640
He was wearing this very Dracula
like outfit, but with a Scottish kilt

706
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:23,710
that

707
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,880
was a Royal Stuart plaid.

708
00:33:27,730 --> 00:33:29,810
It was the red plaid kilt.

709
00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:30,320
Just,

710
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:35,580
If anybody wanted to know what the
name of that specific Scottish plaid

711
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:35,770
kilt

712
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:38,380
he was wearing in that
scene, that's what it was.

713
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,620
Royal Stuart.

714
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,280
I love that.

715
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Hey, well, I might have to have that
for my Halloween costume this year.

716
00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:45,690
I'll

717
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:46,400
That's a good one.

718
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,430
I'll have to do that.

719
00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:55,920
So this movie, The End, It really
just boils down to, it's a, a powerful

720
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,460
commentary on in, in the time.

721
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:03,680
It was a powerful commentary on the
clash of beliefs, whether it was Pagan,

722
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,060
whether it was religious, and the power
of community, because that community,

723
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:10,560
there's no change in what they were doing.

724
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,530
And I think that's a very key takeaway
to take from this as a overlying theme.

725
00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:20,670
It was clash of beliefs
versus the power of community.

726
00:34:22,115 --> 00:34:22,425
Yeah.

727
00:34:22,425 --> 00:34:25,085
and they did stick together
and they would have to, right?

728
00:34:25,085 --> 00:34:30,655
Because obviously this man was a
sergeant, a police officer in Scotland.

729
00:34:30,665 --> 00:34:31,875
He's going to go missing.

730
00:34:31,965 --> 00:34:33,775
He says at one point he has a fiance.

731
00:34:33,775 --> 00:34:34,155
So

732
00:34:34,415 --> 00:34:34,575
I

733
00:34:34,575 --> 00:34:38,881
think that the community is going
to have to stick it together to, uh,

734
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,900
You know, close the community and be
like, this, we take this to our grave.

735
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,949
If someone comes looking for
him, we don't know where he went.

736
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,660
And they all stuck together with
the story of Rowan, the missing

737
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:51,360
girl, so that they could trap him.

738
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,985
And they did it.

739
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,540
Um, but I would argue one thing that
is something to think about when it

740
00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:03,540
comes to these beliefs is, um, I don't
know many pagans personally that would

741
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:10,059
actually sacrifice neither animal nor
human for any reason whatsoever, but

742
00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:16,730
I mean, which is the worst crime in
that a human sacrifice once in a while

743
00:35:17,096 --> 00:35:22,380
versus the damage done in the 15 to
1700s by Christians who were colonizing

744
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:28,800
and, burning witches and, taking

745
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,720
over and genocide and, um,

746
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Yeah,

747
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,580
so, I mean, you could kind of like,
outweigh the evilness there, or

748
00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:39,250
the sin, um, which, which beliefs
have, have the worst of it.

749
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:39,770
I don't know.

750
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:41,560
Something to think about.

751
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:45,310
Final thought on Wicker Man, and
then we're gonna get to Midsommar.

752
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,540
Yeah.

753
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:48,020
What do you got?

754
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:57,580
So, my biggest takeaway is going to
be, in both movies, the comparison

755
00:35:57,630 --> 00:35:59,925
of the, of the main characters.

756
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:04,295
So you have Sergeant Howie,
he's sticking to his Christian

757
00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:05,995
beliefs, even to the very end.

758
00:36:06,005 --> 00:36:09,105
He's like, I will be resurrected in
the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

759
00:36:09,155 --> 00:36:10,735
I mean, this is a very big deal for him.

760
00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:14,605
This is like, he's, he's thinking,
these people are all crazy

761
00:36:14,605 --> 00:36:16,035
and mad and I'm the right one.

762
00:36:16,055 --> 00:36:19,665
I'm the one who did, you
know, stuck true to my

763
00:36:19,665 --> 00:36:20,115
faith

764
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,600
a mortar.

765
00:36:20,625 --> 00:36:29,240
and my And then you have, The main
character in Midsommar, who, I believe,

766
00:36:29,490 --> 00:36:29,900
the

767
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:33,630
theme of that movie is similar to this

768
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:36,670
outsider coming to a community, and

769
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,590
It

770
00:36:38,590 --> 00:36:43,720
kind of is her story of embracing
it more than it is her being

771
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,330
like, No, this is wrong.

772
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,850
I'm sticking to my guns about Christianity
or my other belief or, you know,

773
00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:51,020
whatever beliefs I have or whatever.

774
00:36:51,070 --> 00:36:54,880
It's, it's a different kind
of, um, a story that we end up

775
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,170
with.

776
00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:55,440
Right?

777
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:57,220
Yeah, it's totally opposite, honestly.

778
00:36:57,220 --> 00:36:58,730
Like, the way you lay it out right there.

779
00:36:58,730 --> 00:37:00,540
So, let's get into it.

780
00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:01,490
You wanna get into Midsommar?

781
00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:02,925
Oh, yeah.

782
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:03,760
Alright.

783
00:37:03,825 --> 00:37:04,405
I'm excited.

784
00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:05,460
I love this movie.

785
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,560
I actually, I enjoy this movie,
but not in like a joyful way.

786
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:12,750
You know, um,

787
00:37:13,815 --> 00:37:15,275
It's tough to watch.

788
00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:16,390
tough to watch.

789
00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:20,980
I'm gonna lay this out, though, a
little bit different than the horror.

790
00:37:21,615 --> 00:37:27,955
Movie that it actually is, but I'm
gonna also say that this is a revenge

791
00:37:27,955 --> 00:37:33,555
movie This is a breakup movie just a
it is if you really watch this thing

792
00:37:34,335 --> 00:37:38,165
in the arc that it goes This is a
breakup movie because right from the

793
00:37:38,395 --> 00:37:44,505
very beginning You see that Danny's
boyfriend is shitty like this guy's just

794
00:37:45,165 --> 00:37:47,375
Yes, thank you.

795
00:37:47,435 --> 00:37:48,165
Oh my gosh.

796
00:37:48,215 --> 00:37:50,235
And I have, okay.

797
00:37:50,245 --> 00:37:50,695
So

798
00:37:52,865 --> 00:37:56,965
I have to say first when the movie
starts, because if someone hasn't seen

799
00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:58,695
it yet, or if they're watching it, like.

800
00:37:59,155 --> 00:38:03,625
In, in tandem with what our
comments are, pay attention to

801
00:38:03,625 --> 00:38:06,055
the mural in the opening sequence.

802
00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:13,475
And any murals, like on tapestries, on
the walls, they're all foreshadowing.

803
00:38:13,585 --> 00:38:16,595
And the mural in the opening
sequence, when I paused on it and

804
00:38:16,595 --> 00:38:20,065
really looked at it, I was like, Oh
my gosh, this is the entire movie.

805
00:38:20,605 --> 00:38:22,525
Basically, they've laid
out the entire movie.

806
00:38:22,625 --> 00:38:27,675
it's, it goes from, uh, right to left,
like it goes the opposite direction.

807
00:38:27,975 --> 00:38:33,165
And I wanted to note also on that,
that mural is bright, it's colorful.

808
00:38:33,675 --> 00:38:34,205
And then what happens?

809
00:38:34,855 --> 00:38:40,205
It opens up in the middle to the
darkest, most dreary looking scene.

810
00:38:40,205 --> 00:38:42,495
It's snowy, it's isolated.

811
00:38:42,955 --> 00:38:44,035
We haven't used that word yet.

812
00:38:44,765 --> 00:38:47,265
Isolation was both of these movies.

813
00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:48,660
Was the biggest thing.

814
00:38:49,070 --> 00:38:53,530
When, when, going back to Wicker
Man, when, when, uh, Sergeant Howie,

815
00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:58,270
when he finds out his plane can't
start, that sense of isolation and

816
00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:01,760
alone, you were, you felt with him.

817
00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:04,390
You're like, oh, no, he's trapped.

818
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:09,940
Same thing, same thing
from the very opening shot.

819
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:12,700
There's that symbolism, that Ari Aster,

820
00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:14,180
the

821
00:39:14,180 --> 00:39:17,910
director, there's no, there's, I can tell
you right now, he did not not plan this.

822
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:24,120
To go from this bright mural who told the
whole story to this underneath it dark.

823
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:24,520
Damn.

824
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,350
winter scene.

825
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:27,050
Yes.

826
00:39:27,250 --> 00:39:29,190
And filmed in Utah, by the way.

827
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,160
Oh, whoa

828
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:32,540
Yes.

829
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:33,940
This was filmed in Utah.

830
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,200
I might not have known that we should

831
00:39:35,345 --> 00:39:39,385
That opening scene with Dani,
Dani is the main character, her

832
00:39:39,425 --> 00:39:41,195
parents and sister and their home.

833
00:39:41,825 --> 00:39:44,855
Um, the home was a home in Draper.

834
00:39:45,225 --> 00:39:49,645
And that scene, the winter scene
is, um, is the Salt Lake Valley.

835
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:52,180
we may have to go out there and
get some footage over There I

836
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:53,400
might have to go toward a house.

837
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,120
We may have to go see that I don't
know bad stuff happened in that house

838
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,650
in the very opening of this movie.

839
00:40:00,285 --> 00:40:00,495
Mm

840
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,920
We see some we see something
It's so disturbing that you're

841
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,540
like, uh, yeah, this is this this
movie's gonna fuck me up like it's

842
00:40:07,885 --> 00:40:08,185
yeah.

843
00:40:08,935 --> 00:40:13,055
Yeah, definitely has to set
the stage for the grief, right?

844
00:40:13,395 --> 00:40:19,505
There has to be this intense,
traumatic, heavy grief that the main

845
00:40:19,505 --> 00:40:21,035
character Danny, is coming from.

846
00:40:21,135 --> 00:40:22,905
Like, right from the beginning, right?

847
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,570
And this is all within the
first 12 minutes of the movie.

848
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,000
This is before the opening credits.

849
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,830
You basically get to see
how shitty her boyfriend is.

850
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:39,330
Blowing off her Basically worrying
about her sister not texting

851
00:40:39,330 --> 00:40:40,320
her back, calling her back.

852
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,550
She can't get a hold of her parents.

853
00:40:42,510 --> 00:40:44,060
You can see the dread in her.

854
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:48,450
And her boyfriend just He's smoking
resin or something, whatever he's doing.

855
00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:56,755
And the weird thing is, is That he's such
a piece of shit that he doesn't notice

856
00:40:58,135 --> 00:41:01,075
that she is completely disturbed.

857
00:41:01,475 --> 00:41:04,415
And if somebody's acting like
that, they've got some intuition.

858
00:41:04,425 --> 00:41:05,275
Something's wrong.

859
00:41:05,685 --> 00:41:06,415
You know, so

860
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:08,150
Yeah.

861
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:08,720
Yeah.

862
00:41:08,915 --> 00:41:11,625
not being there for her sets
up some stuff for later.

863
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:12,980
Yeah.

864
00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:15,760
And I have to say all
of that, all of that.

865
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,360
And there are several points throughout
the beginning, probably the first half

866
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:25,490
of the movie that set this up, but the,
um, the experience that she has with

867
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:31,055
boyfriend and his friends, it was so
triggering to me, and I'm not alone.

868
00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:33,385
This is why I'm mentioning it,
because I am sure there are

869
00:41:33,385 --> 00:41:34,905
going to be other young women.

870
00:41:35,425 --> 00:41:39,795
um, Or even middle aged women like
me who understand that feeling.

871
00:41:39,805 --> 00:41:43,635
Cause I was coming from a space
in my youth where I didn't have

872
00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:44,755
a lot of friends of my own.

873
00:41:45,845 --> 00:41:50,775
And so when I met my husband, who was my
boyfriend, he and his circle of friends

874
00:41:50,775 --> 00:41:53,415
became my social group completely.

875
00:41:53,425 --> 00:41:55,425
Like I was, I was alone otherwise.

876
00:41:56,025 --> 00:41:58,935
And so there were times when, you
know, he would want to like, go hang

877
00:41:58,935 --> 00:42:02,875
out with his friends and I would
be the tag along girlfriend, right?

878
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:03,805
That awkwardness.

879
00:42:03,815 --> 00:42:04,435
That's like.

880
00:42:05,815 --> 00:42:10,115
they make her feel so
crappy about herself.

881
00:42:10,235 --> 00:42:13,135
It was like, Oh, I know
this is all too familiar.

882
00:42:13,175 --> 00:42:14,445
I know this feeling.

883
00:42:14,445 --> 00:42:18,415
Not that anyone purposely made me feel
that way, but I know that feeling.

884
00:42:18,755 --> 00:42:25,445
And I felt for her because she was
just trying really hard to just be as

885
00:42:25,745 --> 00:42:26,635
small

886
00:42:27,195 --> 00:42:34,410
and Unburdened, not a burden to
her, to this group as possible.

887
00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:38,370
And yet she still was made to feel
like she was the burden constantly.

888
00:42:39,885 --> 00:42:40,180
Oh

889
00:42:40,185 --> 00:42:46,260
After going through the biggest tragic
Events that you could possibly think of

890
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:51,940
and they literally that she walks into
the room and they're like, oh she's

891
00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:55,010
they're like, Oh, I guess you
can come to Sweden with us.

892
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:56,090
Sure.

893
00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:00,010
think her boyfriend christian isn't
bad or is it bad enough there's

894
00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:01,770
his friend mark he's a shithead too

895
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,160
I hate Mark.

896
00:43:04,270 --> 00:43:07,780
I am so okay with what happens to Mark.

897
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:08,550
Okay?

898
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,670
Yeah.

899
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:17,270
credits where you even see Who you know
ari's name and and the name of the movie.

900
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:19,430
It's This

901
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,720
awful, and they don't, they don't stare
away from showing you any of this.

902
00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:29,740
You see the holes in the mouth of the
girl, of her sister, the, the crying

903
00:43:30,740 --> 00:43:31,820
that is not edited.

904
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,795
It's you can, Florence
Pugh, she played Danny.

905
00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:38,720
This is a, this is a performance.

906
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:40,030
I don't know how she got in.

907
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Like, she's gotta be,

908
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:45,630
she could have got an Oscar for
this, this awesome performance.

909
00:43:45,730 --> 00:43:46,610
And you, like,

910
00:43:46,615 --> 00:43:47,245
I think so.

911
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:48,860
I hurt, I hurt for

912
00:43:48,985 --> 00:43:49,645
She's incredible.

913
00:43:50,155 --> 00:43:50,575
Yeah.

914
00:43:50,635 --> 00:43:51,145
the crying.

915
00:43:51,175 --> 00:43:52,495
the grief that she

916
00:43:52,495 --> 00:43:53,095
shows.

917
00:43:53,155 --> 00:43:53,785
oh my gosh.

918
00:43:53,785 --> 00:43:55,405
You can feel it in your body.

919
00:43:55,555 --> 00:43:56,245
You can feel it.

920
00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:57,670
And the rest of the movie.

921
00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:01,040
It really sets the tone for the rest
of the movie, because you know this

922
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,260
is not gonna, gonna go, go good.

923
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:05,340
They go,

924
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:09,780
what about, hold on, before
they get to land in Sweden,

925
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:11,170
what about that transition?

926
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:19,470
That, the, Opele, the, oh, the,
Rico Suave here, trying to swoop in.

927
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:21,580
He's the only one that
likes Danny being around.

928
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:23,020
And he gives her those

929
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,150
seductive eyes right from the get.

930
00:44:27,345 --> 00:44:27,975
Yeah.

931
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:29,300
Go ahead.

932
00:44:29,355 --> 00:44:31,155
that's really setting something up.

933
00:44:31,185 --> 00:44:38,165
This is setting up, um, the theme of
belonging like she does not feel and she's

934
00:44:38,165 --> 00:44:41,885
made to feel like she does not belong
here She does not belong on this trip.

935
00:44:41,885 --> 00:44:46,975
She does not belong with Christian
Christian is kind of like Not even really

936
00:44:46,975 --> 00:44:51,315
hiding the fact that he was gonna break
up with her and now he feels like he can't

937
00:44:51,511 --> 00:44:53,365
Because she's gone through a tragedy.

938
00:44:53,405 --> 00:44:55,605
So he kind of has to stay with her and

939
00:44:56,115 --> 00:44:59,315
he's not hiding it Well, he's
definitely treating her like I mean,

940
00:44:59,365 --> 00:45:03,255
I'm going to a party, but you, don't
have to go if you don't feel up to

941
00:45:03,255 --> 00:45:03,495
it.

942
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:05,110
and then gets there and

943
00:45:05,435 --> 00:45:06,215
so, yeah.

944
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:08,470
She finds out, oh, you're going to Sweden?

945
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:10,070
Like, in two weeks?

946
00:45:10,850 --> 00:45:11,060
Like,

947
00:45:11,380 --> 00:45:11,630
Yeah.

948
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,465
and he's like, well, I was
going to make me think about it.

949
00:45:14,465 --> 00:45:18,540
Well, Pele, it does not, it does
not, he does not have to work very

950
00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:25,830
hard to go to look at her and to just
feel, you know, have a conversation

951
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:28,070
where she feels like, I see you.

952
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:30,320
I'm sorry for what happened to you.

953
00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:33,350
Um, happy birthday.

954
00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:38,950
Like all of these moments where he gets
a chance to be like, you deserve to be

955
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:40,500
seen,

956
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,340
Danny.

957
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,850
right?

958
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:43,790
Draws a picture of her.

959
00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:45,230
Like, a beautiful picture.

960
00:45:45,725 --> 00:45:45,905
Mm hmm.

961
00:45:46,990 --> 00:45:49,270
Oh, it's just something I
do for people's birthdays.

962
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:50,040
Yeah, right.

963
00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:50,700
Come on, man.

964
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:51,940
We see through this.

965
00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:53,030
But

966
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:59,740
the transition from when they, I'm gonna
talk about the actual film transition

967
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:04,760
before they get to Sweden when she's
talking to Pele and she gets upset and

968
00:46:04,770 --> 00:46:08,370
she goes into the bathroom and then it
does, she's in the airplane bathroom.

969
00:46:08,370 --> 00:46:08,980
Did you notice it?

970
00:46:09,015 --> 00:46:09,795
Yeah, that

971
00:46:09,795 --> 00:46:10,105
too.

972
00:46:10,570 --> 00:46:10,740
that.

973
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,410
Ari did a great job of somehow
putting that together where

974
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,760
you, as a viewer, you didn't have
a choice to get out of this trip.

975
00:46:21,770 --> 00:46:22,470
You're there now.

976
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,420
You're already, you're
already on the plane.

977
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:26,320
You're going to Sweden.

978
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,590
So it's almost like you're
isolated as a viewer.

979
00:46:28,590 --> 00:46:28,990
Yeah.

980
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:30,020
Um,

981
00:46:30,995 --> 00:46:33,475
But it makes you feel
everything from her perspective.

982
00:46:33,485 --> 00:46:38,185
because you're feeling like her, like,
bam, all of a sudden she's on the plane.

983
00:46:38,195 --> 00:46:40,755
I mean, this is probably
what it feels like in grief.

984
00:46:40,755 --> 00:46:42,555
There's like no weeks and months.

985
00:46:42,615 --> 00:46:45,135
It's just like, everything
is happening right now.

986
00:46:45,435 --> 00:46:49,245
And she's propelling forward
based on just momentum.

987
00:46:49,245 --> 00:46:52,585
Not really because she's got
any energy to go through it.

988
00:46:53,215 --> 00:46:57,725
And I was going to say lots of
foreshadowing in the beginning.

989
00:46:58,225 --> 00:47:01,485
if you notice in the parents'
bedroom, there's a picture of

990
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:06,865
Danny, on the nightstand and then
there's a crown of flowers right

991
00:47:06,895 --> 00:47:07,855
over the picture of Danny.

992
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:12,200
so lots of cool foreshadowing going on in
the beginning in the opening sequences.

993
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,450
I don't want people to miss that.

994
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Um, but

995
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:15,810
in that opening?

996
00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:16,590
Because I love that.

997
00:47:16,590 --> 00:47:17,870
I want to know more
about that kind of stuff.

998
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:19,280
Yeah.

999
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:20,660
Um, so.

1000
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:21,860
Let me see.

1001
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:27,640
I wrote down some, uh, some things that,
uh, there's a picture and I'm not sure if

1002
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,290
it's Christian's room or Dani's room, but
she's in grief and she's kind of sleeping.

1003
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,920
There's a picture on the
wall of a bear and a princess

1004
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:35,680
Ah.

1005
00:47:36,115 --> 00:47:38,505
kind of like hugging the
bear or kissing the bear.

1006
00:47:38,885 --> 00:47:40,685
Um, there's a name for that painting.

1007
00:47:40,685 --> 00:47:43,145
I can't remember what it's
called, but that was also an

1008
00:47:43,165 --> 00:47:44,785
intentional foreshadowing there.

1009
00:47:44,855 --> 00:47:47,340
So you want to watch out for stuff like

1010
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,240
I love that.

1011
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:55,330
So they land in Stockholm and
then have a four hour drive.

1012
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,170
I didn't even know you could drive four
more hours after you land in Stockholm.

1013
00:47:59,210 --> 00:47:59,640
Anywhere.

1014
00:47:59,660 --> 00:48:01,840
Like, I thought it was, you
know, I've never been over there.

1015
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:03,000
I love the Swedes.

1016
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,130
I do.

1017
00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:06,090
I have some friends who live over there.

1018
00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:08,290
And I've always wanted to go over there.

1019
00:48:08,890 --> 00:48:10,530
But I don't know about going
to one of these things.

1020
00:48:10,530 --> 00:48:12,410
But it does look fun from the beginning.

1021
00:48:14,185 --> 00:48:14,665
Mm hmm.

1022
00:48:14,665 --> 00:48:15,485
Yeah.

1023
00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:16,790
their Pele shows.

1024
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,930
I mean, they bring them
down this dirt road.

1025
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:21,945
It looked a lot like where I grew up.

1026
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,080
I love it.

1027
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:26,490
Until you get up there and you see
these, you see the, he's like the young

1028
00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:31,480
kids or whatever it was and This is
the beginning of the Harger community,

1029
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:33,750
the Harger community, I believe it was.

1030
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,220
They get off.

1031
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:41,890
They're like, oh, we're on
vacation Oh, here's some rooms

1032
00:48:43,075 --> 00:48:43,435
Yeah!

1033
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:43,960
Sounds

1034
00:48:44,295 --> 00:48:47,645
Again, another opportunity to make
Dani feel like a burden because

1035
00:48:47,655 --> 00:48:50,250
she's like, you know what, I
think I maybe want to get settled

1036
00:48:50,325 --> 00:48:52,705
in before I do all that, but that's fine.

1037
00:48:52,705 --> 00:48:53,545
You guys go ahead.

1038
00:48:54,135 --> 00:48:55,975
And then Christian's like,
well, no, I feel like

1039
00:48:55,975 --> 00:48:56,105
I

1040
00:48:56,105 --> 00:48:57,900
can't do it right now.

1041
00:48:57,900 --> 00:48:59,800
And then he's like, we're going to wait.

1042
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,260
I'm going to do it with Danny later.

1043
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,040
And then Mark's like,
what do you mean later?

1044
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:07,640
And it's like, Oh, that scene
was just, again, another

1045
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:07,880
reiteration

1046
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:12,320
of like, here's Danny
tagging along the girlfriend.

1047
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,730
Christian won't go on a trip without her.

1048
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,190
All that kind of, yeah.

1049
00:49:16,210 --> 00:49:20,210
Yep, and he his friends aren't
the best people anyway, honestly,

1050
00:49:20,420 --> 00:49:24,900
they're they're the um, Josh's
going over there for his thesis.

1051
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:30,320
Like he's going over there taking
in the culture He gets into a little

1052
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,140
trouble later, but we'll get to that.

1053
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,200
But literally,

1054
00:49:33,260 --> 00:49:33,700
He's focused.

1055
00:49:33,850 --> 00:49:34,930
in, this is fun.

1056
00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:36,480
Like, we're tripping balls.

1057
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:37,760
Yeah.

1058
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:40,920
Then it starts, you're like, wait a
minute, something's not feeling right.

1059
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:43,960
Even when she looks down at her foot and
she sees the grass growing through, you're

1060
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,290
like, or the hand or whatever it was.

1061
00:49:46,990 --> 00:49:47,170
I'm

1062
00:49:47,180 --> 00:49:47,620
yeah.

1063
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:49,020
The grass is going through her hands.

1064
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,940
So again, you're seeing
it from her perspective.

1065
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:55,500
So she's like, and then someone
mentions family and it triggers her.

1066
00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:57,680
And she's, you know, having a bad trip.

1067
00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:02,240
Cause she's like, um, you know, but you're
feeling that disorientation with her.

1068
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:02,700
Aren't you?

1069
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:03,800
Like you're feeling like.

1070
00:50:05,060 --> 00:50:09,370
How I imagine I would feel on shrooms
when I'm like not feeling so good

1071
00:50:09,370 --> 00:50:11,250
and I'm like, oh my gosh, where am I?

1072
00:50:11,290 --> 00:50:12,590
I just, I want to feel normal.

1073
00:50:12,970 --> 00:50:16,060
She just flew to the middle of
nowhere, halfway around the world.

1074
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:20,640
top of that, you got the sun.

1075
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:22,980
Yes.

1076
00:50:25,615 --> 00:50:30,125
To a viewer, to who's there, it's
crazy because He asked, one of

1077
00:50:30,125 --> 00:50:32,245
them asked, they say when they're
on the shrimps, what time is it?

1078
00:50:32,255 --> 00:50:35,715
And he says 9 o'clock and that's when
Mark freaks the fuck out It's like,

1079
00:50:35,835 --> 00:50:36,205
Right.

1080
00:50:36,262 --> 00:50:40,165
be 9 o'clock It can't be 9 o'clock And
they freak me out because it's broad

1081
00:50:40,175 --> 00:50:44,050
daylight I did notice on the There's a
little, there's a little, I don't think

1082
00:50:44,050 --> 00:50:50,870
it's an easter egg, but maybe it is, but
in Wicker Man, he asks, what time is it?

1083
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:52,030
And she says, a little after nine.

1084
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,980
So, I noticed it was two, it was nine
p. m. for both Wicker Man and Midsommar,

1085
00:50:57,980 --> 00:50:59,030
so I thought that was kind of cool.

1086
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,810
that disorientation, because,

1087
00:51:01,955 --> 00:51:03,125
is disorienting.

1088
00:51:03,155 --> 00:51:05,775
I don't know if you've ever been
up North, but I remember going

1089
00:51:05,775 --> 00:51:10,255
to Alaska, visiting Alaska, and
when we arrived, it was like 10pm.

1090
00:51:10,555 --> 00:51:10,675
We

1091
00:51:10,675 --> 00:51:15,070
were going to check into our
hotel, It total daylight outside.

1092
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:16,770
I was so disoriented.

1093
00:51:16,810 --> 00:51:17,340
I'm like,

1094
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:17,810
I

1095
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:19,030
mean, Mark isn't wrong there.

1096
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:19,970
That's disorienting.

1097
00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:21,790
That's uncomfortable when
you're not used to that.

1098
00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:22,640
And you're like, wait,

1099
00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:23,240
people

1100
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:25,140
are out mowing their lawns right now.

1101
00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:27,606
It's, it looks like the
middle of the day and it's.

1102
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:32,730
your mind is like, it's supposed to
be night or bedtime or something, but

1103
00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:36,410
I wrote down in my notes, just, it's
just funny that you said the friends.

1104
00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:38,870
I just wrote Mark is an asshole Just

1105
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:40,770
He is, man, he really is.

1106
00:51:40,935 --> 00:51:42,985
because he's like everybody lay down.

1107
00:51:43,275 --> 00:51:45,575
We all need to lay down
because I want to lay down.

1108
00:51:45,605 --> 00:51:46,905
So everybody lay down with me.

1109
00:51:46,935 --> 00:51:47,785
Come on, everybody.

1110
00:51:47,785 --> 00:51:48,775
We're doing it with me.

1111
00:51:49,105 --> 00:51:52,365
I love how he was the one that was
like all about everybody do this

1112
00:51:52,365 --> 00:51:55,765
everybody do this and he's the first
one having a Bad trip and bitching about

1113
00:51:56,075 --> 00:51:57,865
yeah, everybody lay down like that.

1114
00:51:57,955 --> 00:52:00,655
Yeah, that's what I expected
from a guy like that I think

1115
00:52:00,805 --> 00:52:02,245
we've all known people like that

1116
00:52:04,125 --> 00:52:04,145
know.

1117
00:52:04,925 --> 00:52:05,225
Yeah.

1118
00:52:05,295 --> 00:52:06,035
So that's just it.

1119
00:52:06,035 --> 00:52:06,665
That's in my notes.

1120
00:52:06,735 --> 00:52:07,865
Just Mark is an asshole.

1121
00:52:07,985 --> 00:52:09,105
Like we're just agree on that.

1122
00:52:10,305 --> 00:52:10,895
Moving on.

1123
00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:15,535
the next day So after they they get
there they get so they trip balls.

1124
00:52:15,535 --> 00:52:20,865
They have all that 30 35 minutes in
35 minutes in is when they actually

1125
00:52:20,905 --> 00:52:25,570
arrive At the Horga, you see the big

1126
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:28,710
open arch, whatever that thing is.

1127
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:31,220
Is that symbolized anything
or was that just art?

1128
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:35,170
The sun, they talk about
it a lot in this movie.

1129
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:38,430
Like we are making these
offerings to the sun.

1130
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:39,980
The sun is really important

1131
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,620
um,

1132
00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:42,220
at this summer solstice.

1133
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,300
It's midsummer.

1134
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,410
Um, so their festival
is all about the sun.

1135
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:50,965
It's going to be a, like, a, In order
to have bountiful harvest, which

1136
00:52:50,975 --> 00:52:56,545
again is like in Wicker Man, um, the
rituals are all about, uh, you know,

1137
00:52:56,545 --> 00:52:57,925
coming from a place of survival.

1138
00:52:57,935 --> 00:53:00,155
We won't survive winter without this.

1139
00:53:00,625 --> 00:53:04,515
So we are doing everything
possible, including rituals

1140
00:53:04,515 --> 00:53:06,505
and offerings and singings and

1141
00:53:06,805 --> 00:53:12,810
festivals, um, to honor the gods
of the sun, the earth, Fertility,

1142
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:18,630
anything that's gonna feed us our food
throughout the winter and make sure we

1143
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:22,000
survive, that's what it's all about.

1144
00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:22,590
So yeah.

1145
00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:24,780
Yeah, They're doing all the,

1146
00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:26,960
all the stuff.

1147
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,500
So, the festivities kind of
begin when they get there.

1148
00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:35,100
And you start seeing some
of that foreshadow come in.

1149
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:40,270
Even when they say, you know what, when
he says, What are those kids doing?

1150
00:53:40,270 --> 00:53:42,370
And he's like, Oh, they're
playing skin the fool.

1151
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:44,040
And they're laughing about it.

1152
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,470
So

1153
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,450
I noted

1154
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:47,430
that the second time.

1155
00:53:47,625 --> 00:53:50,825
That's not a, that's not a, sure it's
a game for kids, but that's because

1156
00:53:50,985 --> 00:53:52,355
they're gonna do that later in life.

1157
00:53:52,835 --> 00:53:54,185
Like it's, that was

1158
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,630
little foreshadowing there.

1159
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:57,250
Oh, they're playing skin the fool.

1160
00:53:57,530 --> 00:54:00,710
There's one of their party that is
going to play the part of the fool,

1161
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:02,100
and it's exactly who you think it's

1162
00:54:02,190 --> 00:54:02,270
gonna

1163
00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:02,590
be.

1164
00:54:02,915 --> 00:54:03,585
Exactly.

1165
00:54:03,625 --> 00:54:06,545
And then you see, there's school.

1166
00:54:06,815 --> 00:54:09,845
And you find, and this is when it's
really, I mean, we've already seen

1167
00:54:09,845 --> 00:54:11,625
all these red flags of, this is.

1168
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,930
Something, something
weird's going on here.

1169
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,780
Um, but this is a real big one.

1170
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,230
When they go behind there like, oh,
the kids are doing their school.

1171
00:54:19,330 --> 00:54:20,210
Oh, what are they learning?

1172
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,190
Oh, it's rune carving class.

1173
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,660
You're like, that's

1174
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,160
Yeah.

1175
00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:27,560
not, that's not actually school.

1176
00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:31,780
You know, you're thinking, oh,
they're doing math by the creek.

1177
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:32,530
No, no, no, no, no.

1178
00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:34,800
Rune carving, which comes into play later.

1179
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:39,930
well, consider that the runic
alphabet is, um, and by the way,

1180
00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:45,480
just to clarify, because, um, this
movie did make up its own runes.

1181
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,220
Um, they call it the Elder and the
Younger Futhark or something like that.

1182
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:51,900
They talk about it when
they look at the stones.

1183
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,840
Um, it's based off of Scandinavian
and Nordic runes, but it's not

1184
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:58,370
like they made it up for the movie.

1185
00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:02,365
Um, I think probably because they
didn't want to associate like

1186
00:55:02,365 --> 00:55:06,135
these negative connotations with
actual culture, uh, that exists.

1187
00:55:06,765 --> 00:55:09,175
But the runic alphabet
is that it is just that.

1188
00:55:09,275 --> 00:55:10,055
it's an alphabet.

1189
00:55:10,085 --> 00:55:11,405
It's letters.

1190
00:55:11,535 --> 00:55:14,555
So it would be essentially the
same as children sitting around

1191
00:55:14,694 --> 00:55:18,775
learning their alphabet, carving
their letters into stones and wood

1192
00:55:18,895 --> 00:55:20,185
to learn how to read and write.

1193
00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:24,566
So yeah, we could take it in
context with like, okay, so this

1194
00:55:24,566 --> 00:55:26,473
is just the cultural alphabet.

1195
00:55:26,473 --> 00:55:28,175
This is their cultural school.

1196
00:55:28,635 --> 00:55:29,065
I think.

1197
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:34,240
For me, most of the movie until you
get to certain practices that are

1198
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:40,250
inhumane, um, I think that this commune
and society are quite wonderful.

1199
00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:41,000
I'm

1200
00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:43,280
looking at it much like the
community in Wicker Man.

1201
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,830
at The beginning, you're like,
sunshine and roses, these

1202
00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:48,190
people have it figured out.

1203
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,080
They're a community.

1204
00:55:49,145 --> 00:55:50,320
They take care of each other.

1205
00:55:50,330 --> 00:55:52,160
They take care of their young together.

1206
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,110
They take care of their

1207
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:54,530
Old, to

1208
00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:55,810
a certain point.

1209
00:55:55,810 --> 00:55:56,400
Yeah.

1210
00:55:58,050 --> 00:55:58,290
To a

1211
00:55:58,370 --> 00:56:00,540
I say that with a, an asterisk, right?

1212
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:00,900
Like,

1213
00:56:01,250 --> 00:56:01,600
Now

1214
00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:02,020
to a certain

1215
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:06,720
I'll, I'll accept that Courtney, but I'm
gonna have to, I'm gonna have to call

1216
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,020
you out a little bit on that because.

1217
00:56:08,105 --> 00:56:13,205
I think he specifically says something
along the lines of they're carving runes.

1218
00:56:13,205 --> 00:56:15,695
It's their, it's their
form of power, you know?

1219
00:56:16,655 --> 00:56:20,985
So he does give a little
extra piece to that.

1220
00:56:21,655 --> 00:56:23,805
I love when you're trying
to say, ah, it's okay.

1221
00:56:23,875 --> 00:56:24,675
It's okay.

1222
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:26,630
Yeah, it could be taken that.

1223
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,650
And also, just so everyone knows, the
Nordic runes are a power that Odin

1224
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:35,790
sacrificed nine days hanging from a tree

1225
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:36,230
to

1226
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:38,760
get the wisdom from the, from the Fates.

1227
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:39,680
So.

1228
00:56:40,055 --> 00:56:42,475
that is also power.

1229
00:56:42,555 --> 00:56:45,555
And, I don't know, in that
context, they're both.

1230
00:56:45,605 --> 00:56:46,445
They're one and the same.

1231
00:56:46,455 --> 00:56:48,555
They're an alphabet, a
reading and writing system.

1232
00:56:48,895 --> 00:56:50,405
But you could dare say that our.

1233
00:56:50,705 --> 00:56:50,965
uh,

1234
00:56:50,975 --> 00:56:56,695
Modern day alphabet in English has power
as well if you decide to put power to it.

1235
00:56:56,815 --> 00:56:57,135
So,

1236
00:56:57,285 --> 00:56:57,675
It's so cool.

1237
00:56:57,885 --> 00:56:58,345
So cool.

1238
00:56:58,365 --> 00:56:58,940
I love it.

1239
00:57:00,735 --> 00:57:03,885
the, after they walk, this is on
their way to their, their, their room.

1240
00:57:03,885 --> 00:57:06,225
Then they walk up to
this, this fucking barn.

1241
00:57:06,425 --> 00:57:07,375
It's just a barn, right?

1242
00:57:07,375 --> 00:57:08,265
Like that's what it is.

1243
00:57:08,905 --> 00:57:09,425
Yeah.

1244
00:57:09,445 --> 00:57:12,445
And you're like, oh my God, they're
going to be sleeping in there.

1245
00:57:12,445 --> 00:57:13,445
We're like, Hey.

1246
00:57:14,415 --> 00:57:15,575
Let's get what's happening here.

1247
00:57:15,605 --> 00:57:16,975
You know, this ain't no Best Western.

1248
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:17,845
That's what they're thinking.

1249
00:57:18,275 --> 00:57:20,755
And, they open the doors.

1250
00:57:20,995 --> 00:57:21,635
And what do they see?

1251
00:57:23,765 --> 00:57:26,135
Is this the, the, um,
where all of the children

1252
00:57:26,165 --> 00:57:26,755
sleep?

1253
00:57:26,785 --> 00:57:27,305
they're sleeping.

1254
00:57:27,305 --> 00:57:28,090
Where everybody's sleeping.

1255
00:57:28,945 --> 00:57:34,935
it's like a, it's like this, um, I
don't know, like massive bunk bed

1256
00:57:35,235 --> 00:57:36,355
And it's the walls.

1257
00:57:36,415 --> 00:57:37,115
The ceiling.

1258
00:57:37,205 --> 00:57:38,215
And it's beautiful.

1259
00:57:38,225 --> 00:57:38,905
It's a mural.

1260
00:57:38,905 --> 00:57:39,805
It's all these

1261
00:57:40,215 --> 00:57:43,525
Oh yeah, the carvings and
paintings and murals all over

1262
00:57:43,525 --> 00:57:45,315
the wall that tell stories.

1263
00:57:45,365 --> 00:57:47,955
I think that's amazing and incredible.

1264
00:57:47,995 --> 00:57:51,285
But they're also pointing out that
like there's fertility symbols on

1265
00:57:51,285 --> 00:57:53,225
these walls or like kids sleep here.

1266
00:57:53,225 --> 00:57:54,165
There's pictures of dicks

1267
00:57:54,505 --> 00:57:55,125
Yeah, I know.

1268
00:57:55,125 --> 00:57:55,965
It was like all over.

1269
00:57:55,965 --> 00:57:57,675
It's just sexual positions.

1270
00:57:57,675 --> 00:57:59,205
I saw stuff I didn't even see before.

1271
00:57:59,215 --> 00:57:59,390
Like, it's

1272
00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:00,290
Oh, yeah.

1273
00:58:00,460 --> 00:58:00,810
Yeah.

1274
00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:01,960
Could you imagine being a kid?

1275
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,420
They sleep in there from 0
to 18, he says, in the movie.

1276
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:08,500
So, like, you're a kid in
there, and a teenager, and this

1277
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:09,570
is what's all over the walls.

1278
00:58:10,310 --> 00:58:11,050
Would you be more

1279
00:58:11,350 --> 00:58:11,570
or

1280
00:58:11,570 --> 00:58:13,610
less sexualized if this
was your upbringing?

1281
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:13,960
I mean,

1282
00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:17,340
less desensitized to it, but also
that comes into play later when

1283
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,510
you're just having casual sex
out in the park with everybody.

1284
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:20,610
I don't know.

1285
00:58:21,375 --> 00:58:26,300
So it's, it's dancing naked out
there, you know, maybe it does.

1286
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:27,340
I don't know.

1287
00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:27,870
I don't know.

1288
00:58:28,850 --> 00:58:30,270
I don't live in one of those communities.

1289
00:58:30,350 --> 00:58:31,840
I don't know if I ever will.

1290
00:58:32,585 --> 00:58:34,595
after watching this, but you
mentioned right there, the

1291
00:58:34,595 --> 00:58:36,850
seasons and the, the zero to 18.

1292
00:58:37,645 --> 00:58:41,525
We get this info right
here from their home.

1293
00:58:42,035 --> 00:58:42,495
We get it.

1294
00:58:42,505 --> 00:58:45,925
He tells them, yeah, zero
that we look at it as seasons.

1295
00:58:45,925 --> 00:58:47,325
And that's what I was
talking about wicker, man.

1296
00:58:47,345 --> 00:58:48,715
And I'll confuse the two,

1297
00:58:49,775 --> 00:58:50,165
but

1298
00:58:51,515 --> 00:58:54,335
he says zero to 18 is like what spring.

1299
00:58:54,860 --> 00:59:04,210
And then 1836 is summer, 3654 is fall,
and then yeah, 5472, that's your winter.

1300
00:59:04,850 --> 00:59:07,010
They, right here, right
here, a key moment.

1301
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:08,110
Key moment.

1302
00:59:09,350 --> 00:59:10,670
What happens at 72?

1303
00:59:11,230 --> 00:59:12,250
He looks at them.

1304
00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:13,510
Looks them up.

1305
00:59:14,890 --> 00:59:15,530
He tells them.

1306
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:15,830
Right there.

1307
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,540
Across

1308
00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:17,130
the neck,

1309
00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:19,620
He tells them right there
what's gonna happen.

1310
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:22,150
They laugh it off like it's a

1311
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,830
joke.

1312
00:59:23,710 --> 00:59:31,380
Now, it begins to come into clearer view
for Josh, right about here, because they

1313
00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:33,890
talk about the, what is it, the estupu?

1314
00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:35,110
How do they, how do they say this?

1315
00:59:35,895 --> 00:59:36,160
Uh,

1316
00:59:36,190 --> 00:59:38,140
Oh yeah, I wrote this down.

1317
00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:38,740
I have to go

1318
00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:39,055
back.

1319
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:39,820
Um,

1320
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:41,880
whatever, I can't even pronounce it.

1321
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:43,560
And he, there you go.

1322
00:59:44,410 --> 00:59:51,990
testipa is a ritual of elderly,
Um, being let go from this life on.

1323
00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:53,020
purpose.

1324
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:54,880
Um, and this was

1325
00:59:55,180 --> 00:59:55,580
in

1326
00:59:55,590 --> 00:59:57,130
the research of the film.

1327
00:59:57,150 --> 01:00:02,410
It is a, um, it is something
that has done in Norse mythology.

1328
01:00:02,980 --> 01:00:05,190
So this wasn't something they
made up for the film because they

1329
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:09,040
wanted to make this commie and seem
really brutal, but this is an idea.

1330
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:12,780
That exists in Scandinavian countries,
or at least in mythology it does.

1331
01:00:13,390 --> 01:00:16,440
We can't say for sure that this
is something that they practiced

1332
01:00:17,935 --> 01:00:21,625
necessarily, but I guess we can assume
that if it's written in the mythology,

1333
01:00:21,625 --> 01:00:25,005
and if, you know, from ancient times
that there was at least at some point,

1334
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:26,000
Some truth.

1335
01:00:26,085 --> 01:00:26,905
truth to this.

1336
01:00:26,935 --> 01:00:27,220
Yeah.

1337
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:29,340
Um, that's crazy, because

1338
01:00:31,470 --> 01:00:34,870
they don't necessarily know what this is.

1339
01:00:34,910 --> 01:00:36,600
He says it's going to happen tomorrow.

1340
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:38,810
Now, Josh, you see all
of a sudden, he's like,

1341
01:00:41,205 --> 01:00:41,645
Yeah.

1342
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:42,980
He's already figuring it

1343
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:44,790
he's like a real, a real one?

1344
01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:48,795
And he knows and they're
like, is it scary?

1345
01:00:48,795 --> 01:00:49,315
And he's like,

1346
01:00:50,995 --> 01:00:55,455
now this foreshadows a lot because
you, we at home, if you, unless you

1347
01:00:55,455 --> 01:00:57,545
Google this or you already know, you
don't know what's happening either.

1348
01:00:57,975 --> 01:00:59,295
You don't know what this word is.

1349
01:00:59,295 --> 01:01:00,215
It's at the stupu.

1350
01:01:00,525 --> 01:01:02,655
I can't even pronounce it
much less know what it is.

1351
01:01:02,875 --> 01:01:05,305
They even say it's too hard to explain.

1352
01:01:05,435 --> 01:01:06,955
And

1353
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:10,610
He's like, oh, yeah, you'll just
have to see it for yourself.

1354
01:01:10,715 --> 01:01:12,365
then, okay, so now let's get to that.

1355
01:01:12,375 --> 01:01:14,675
So, or do you have
something else on that note?

1356
01:01:15,450 --> 01:01:21,030
Well, um, of the seasons, 0 to
18, 18 to 36, 36 to 54, these

1357
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:24,370
are, um, multiples of 9, or

1358
01:01:24,410 --> 01:01:24,640
um,

1359
01:01:24,650 --> 01:01:27,930
associated with the number 9, and that's
something to note that, um, because

1360
01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:32,490
Odin hung from the Tree of Life for
9 days to gain wisdom, the number 9

1361
01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:35,290
is really significant in, Mythology.

1362
01:01:35,435 --> 01:01:40,390
so she does say in the opening
ceremony, the, um, what is her name?

1363
01:01:40,510 --> 01:01:42,900
Siva, the kind of like
high priestess lady.

1364
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,950
She says it's 90 years
between great feasts.

1365
01:01:48,430 --> 01:01:48,930
So this is.

1366
01:01:49,230 --> 01:01:49,410
this

1367
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:51,330
is a great feast that
hasn't happened for 90

1368
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:51,770
years.

1369
01:01:51,855 --> 01:01:52,605
be 90 per

1370
01:01:52,820 --> 01:01:53,080
they still

1371
01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:57,790
do their midsummer feast, but they're
saying something about this particular

1372
01:01:57,790 --> 01:02:04,030
one is only happens every 90 years
and then it lasts for nine days.

1373
01:02:04,330 --> 01:02:05,930
So the number nine shows up a lot

1374
01:02:06,825 --> 01:02:08,375
Cool, that's awesome to know too.

1375
01:02:08,495 --> 01:02:11,925
I mean, that's stuff that we'll be
looking out for on other rewatches.

1376
01:02:11,975 --> 01:02:13,585
Cause I will, I will rewatch.

1377
01:02:14,295 --> 01:02:15,225
We're not done with this yet.

1378
01:02:15,765 --> 01:02:21,775
We're, we're halfway through this
movie is all, if halfway, and we

1379
01:02:21,775 --> 01:02:23,035
get to the, we get to the dinner.

1380
01:02:23,045 --> 01:02:23,865
We get to the next day.

1381
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,810
This is when you're really like, uh,
yeah, this is, this is going downhill.

1382
01:02:31,290 --> 01:02:36,760
like, you, you just feel like,
yeah, this is not normal from

1383
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,760
the, the, the setup of the table.

1384
01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:40,350
It's in a, it's in the shape of a room.

1385
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,410
Um,

1386
01:02:41,810 --> 01:02:42,140
it is.

1387
01:02:42,170 --> 01:02:43,890
I wrote down the rune, actually.

1388
01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:44,885
you, what, what?

1389
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:46,620
Yes, I have a card here.

1390
01:02:46,745 --> 01:02:47,285
That's the room.

1391
01:02:47,315 --> 01:02:47,875
That's it right there.

1392
01:02:47,875 --> 01:02:49,165
It looks like a Jesus ish.

1393
01:02:50,590 --> 01:02:51,450
Yes, it does.

1394
01:02:51,460 --> 01:02:52,200
From the, yeah.

1395
01:02:52,310 --> 01:02:54,530
If it was tilted to the
side, it'd be a Jesus fish.

1396
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:56,430
So, it's called Othilla.

1397
01:02:56,915 --> 01:02:57,075
This

1398
01:02:57,375 --> 01:02:57,905
particular

1399
01:02:57,905 --> 01:02:58,965
rune, in Nordic runes.

1400
01:02:58,995 --> 01:03:00,925
And I started noticing them everywhere.

1401
01:03:00,955 --> 01:03:03,925
I started to, like, pause the
film and look in the background.

1402
01:03:03,935 --> 01:03:07,415
There was, so I was looking them up
all through the movie, which is so fun.

1403
01:03:07,565 --> 01:03:08,475
and exciting to me.

1404
01:03:08,805 --> 01:03:11,395
Um, I'm studying the Nordic
runes, but I don't know them.

1405
01:03:11,435 --> 01:03:14,965
So this was actually kind of helpful
for me to kind of look at them.

1406
01:03:15,395 --> 01:03:19,215
Um, but this one, uh,
particularly means home.

1407
01:03:19,875 --> 01:03:25,050
So this is the, Um, they're all
sitting at a table built into this

1408
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:25,990
shape,

1409
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:32,140
but it means inheritance, property,
family, responsibilities, all of

1410
01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:34,090
this are associated with this rune.

1411
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:36,630
So it fits perfectly.

1412
01:03:37,375 --> 01:03:40,095
Now, we still see these two old people.

1413
01:03:40,865 --> 01:03:41,485
And,

1414
01:03:43,395 --> 01:03:47,525
I just, like, okay, so, so,
watching this first time, not, you

1415
01:03:47,525 --> 01:03:50,485
know, I'm like, something crazy's
gonna happen, something fucked up.

1416
01:03:50,855 --> 01:03:57,155
Sure, I've seen all this before, but,
I'm still kinda like, is it though?

1417
01:03:57,195 --> 01:03:58,865
Because, are they like a king and queen?

1418
01:03:58,885 --> 01:04:00,615
Because they look, it was like royalty.

1419
01:04:01,165 --> 01:04:02,885
They put them in the
chairs, they pick them up.

1420
01:04:03,335 --> 01:04:03,855
I'm gonna start

1421
01:04:03,940 --> 01:04:04,320
Yeah.

1422
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,920
They don't start eating until they
start until they pick up eating.

1423
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,950
And then the rest of
the table gets to eat.

1424
01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:13,040
So that you're noticing like
they're in a very honored position.

1425
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:13,420
Right.

1426
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,510
And even when they stand up, that's it.

1427
01:04:15,540 --> 01:04:16,070
You're done.

1428
01:04:16,580 --> 01:04:19,140
The food, the dinner was over and
that's when they got the chairs.

1429
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,080
Hey, where do I hire a crew to
start carrying me around in a

1430
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,090
chair like that all the time?

1431
01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:26,540
Cause it didn't look too bad.

1432
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:27,990
I

1433
01:04:28,530 --> 01:04:29,770
It looks very relaxed.

1434
01:04:30,070 --> 01:04:31,740
I love how this scene.

1435
01:04:32,750 --> 01:04:35,970
is so stretched out because
it could have been boom, boom,

1436
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:38,180
boom, boom, boom, you know, done.

1437
01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:41,110
You get to watch him march.

1438
01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:46,620
You get to see the, the, the faces of
the Americans who were there and they're

1439
01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:48,610
like, I don't know what's about to happen.

1440
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:52,300
You got the other people
that he met, Simon and his

1441
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:53,940
girlfriend out, out in the crowd.

1442
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:55,820
They walk up.

1443
01:04:56,550 --> 01:04:58,420
there's a few more outsiders there.

1444
01:04:58,855 --> 01:04:58,875
is

1445
01:04:59,965 --> 01:05:00,795
58, 58 minutes in.

1446
01:05:01,235 --> 01:05:03,775
58 minutes in, and this
scene lasts for a while.

1447
01:05:04,780 --> 01:05:05,520
Yeah.

1448
01:05:05,820 --> 01:05:06,110
Yeah.

1449
01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:10,825
get up, and they start
chanting, and throat singing,

1450
01:05:13,145 --> 01:05:15,885
from their own, you're like,
you kinda sit up, you're like,

1451
01:05:16,435 --> 01:05:17,765
what the fuck's happening?

1452
01:05:18,455 --> 01:05:21,815
They keep showing this cliff, you're
like, uh, what the fuck's happening?

1453
01:05:22,185 --> 01:05:24,945
They zoom out when they're
on that cliff, you see,

1454
01:05:27,485 --> 01:05:30,135
whoo, you see all them stones up there,
I guess those are runes, runestones.

1455
01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:32,580
Um, but

1456
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:33,185
Yeah.

1457
01:05:33,460 --> 01:05:37,120
be like a very sacred ceremony, I imagine.

1458
01:05:37,370 --> 01:05:42,280
In fact, they, um, they, I
can't remember exactly how it

1459
01:05:42,377 --> 01:05:44,050
happens, but they wipe blood.

1460
01:05:44,345 --> 01:05:48,025
They have a rune on their tunic and

1461
01:05:48,325 --> 01:05:48,575
they

1462
01:05:48,585 --> 01:05:51,845
wipe it off with blood
on the stone somehow.

1463
01:05:51,915 --> 01:05:56,075
And then, um, yeah, so it's important
to note that because if you're seeing

1464
01:05:56,075 --> 01:05:58,915
this movie again, if you've already seen
it, now you're watching it again, pay

1465
01:05:58,915 --> 01:06:00,620
very close attention to those runes.

1466
01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:04,715
Those runes show up later on
Dany and Christian's tunics.

1467
01:06:05,535 --> 01:06:05,675
The

1468
01:06:05,675 --> 01:06:11,695
same ones that The couple who meet their
demise, if that's a kind way to say it.

1469
01:06:12,135 --> 01:06:13,675
I like your, the way you said it.

1470
01:06:14,525 --> 01:06:14,635
Meow.

1471
01:06:15,110 --> 01:06:15,960
Pretty much, you know.

1472
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:22,470
Right here, I gotta say that when you
see the shot of the cliff and then

1473
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:24,430
they walk out, you're like, oh man.

1474
01:06:25,070 --> 01:06:27,010
And then they start dancing,
you're like, oh okay, okay.

1475
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:28,840
Uh uh.

1476
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,055
Yeah.

1477
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,280
there's no cutaways.

1478
01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:33,390
this,

1479
01:06:33,745 --> 01:06:34,395
No.

1480
01:06:34,855 --> 01:06:36,420
They show everything.

1481
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,830
this is one of the, if not
the most disturbing scenes

1482
01:06:41,830 --> 01:06:44,710
you'll see in a movie, ever.

1483
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:45,230
Cause

1484
01:06:45,265 --> 01:06:46,365
4. Yeah.

1485
01:06:46,665 --> 01:06:46,825
And

1486
01:06:46,825 --> 01:06:51,245
it doesn't stop like it's it,
doesn't cut away it continues, and

1487
01:06:51,245 --> 01:06:56,945
then for several scenes later you
get to see the bodies in different.

1488
01:06:56,945 --> 01:06:57,445
I You know,

1489
01:06:57,445 --> 01:06:59,145
what they do with the
bodies later and stuff.

1490
01:06:59,145 --> 01:07:01,755
So they, they, I mean, it's
just, it's right there.

1491
01:07:02,485 --> 01:07:05,475
And I'm imagining like children
in the village are seeing this.

1492
01:07:05,545 --> 01:07:06,215
I mean,

1493
01:07:06,215 --> 01:07:06,835
yeah,

1494
01:07:07,305 --> 01:07:07,955
all happy.

1495
01:07:08,185 --> 01:07:08,955
They're all happy.

1496
01:07:08,985 --> 01:07:11,265
And then Simon and his girlfriend
are freaking out and then

1497
01:07:12,775 --> 01:07:16,635
Yeah, oh my gosh, he jumped,
he fell, he, you know, they're

1498
01:07:16,635 --> 01:07:18,585
freaking, no, it was by design.

1499
01:07:18,735 --> 01:07:20,975
And then you've got the head of
the, the, the, what's her name?

1500
01:07:20,975 --> 01:07:21,297
Siv?

1501
01:07:21,475 --> 01:07:21,865
Siv?

1502
01:07:22,175 --> 01:07:25,645
You've got her calming him down
saying, hey, no, no, this is okay.

1503
01:07:25,835 --> 01:07:26,615
This is okay.

1504
01:07:27,945 --> 01:07:28,615
it's like,

1505
01:07:29,675 --> 01:07:33,975
hang on, how did she just calm
me down as a viewer thinking, all

1506
01:07:33,975 --> 01:07:36,448
right, I just saw two people die.

1507
01:07:37,335 --> 01:07:38,965
Like literally looks, it's.

1508
01:07:39,870 --> 01:07:44,380
Even when a guy jumps and then
he doesn't die and they have to

1509
01:07:44,380 --> 01:07:46,380
bring the hammer in, I'm like,

1510
01:07:49,105 --> 01:07:52,395
I remember watching it the first
time being like, oh no, oh no.

1511
01:07:52,925 --> 01:07:56,085
I'm like cringing on the
couch next to my husband.

1512
01:07:56,085 --> 01:07:56,635
We're both like,

1513
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,320
you know what this scene does?

1514
01:07:59,950 --> 01:08:04,040
Is make you forget that only less
than an hour earlier you saw a

1515
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:07,770
woman with a hose in her mouth and
all them people dead in the bed.

1516
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:10,470
Like that, you thought that was gonna
be the worst thing you ever saw.

1517
01:08:10,780 --> 01:08:11,460
Nuh uh.

1518
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:13,100
This is awful.

1519
01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:15,250
This, this, this rattled me for a while.

1520
01:08:15,250 --> 01:08:15,560
Uh

1521
01:08:16,660 --> 01:08:16,930
No,

1522
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:19,900
sorry.

1523
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:19,920
I

1524
01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:22,510
Have a little, uh, a
little friend peeking in on

1525
01:08:22,510 --> 01:08:25,120
us to talk about the
horrific scene of this movie.

1526
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:25,950
Man.

1527
01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:29,090
So, so after this, you're
like, all right, well.

1528
01:08:30,790 --> 01:08:34,320
I don't know what's gonna happen from now
on, but you know, it ain't gonna be good.

1529
01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:34,750
Like,

1530
01:08:35,330 --> 01:08:35,640
Yeah,

1531
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,820
and you're right, they
have to calm us down.

1532
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,840
Just like they have to calm Danny
and Simon and, you know, they have

1533
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:47,407
to calm the foreign People down
because the movie is not over.

1534
01:08:48,205 --> 01:08:53,765
And I remember thinking, well, that
would be all I'd have to do to, all I'd

1535
01:08:53,765 --> 01:08:55,925
have to see to be like, I'm out of here.

1536
01:08:56,125 --> 01:09:00,365
Get me out of here as fast as you
can get me out of here, but they have

1537
01:09:00,365 --> 01:09:01,875
to somehow keep these characters.

1538
01:09:02,175 --> 01:09:05,385
So, you know, the, the director,
writer, the script, they, they

1539
01:09:05,385 --> 01:09:05,935
knew what they were doing.

1540
01:09:05,935 --> 01:09:07,205
Cause they're like, okay, we can't.

1541
01:09:07,455 --> 01:09:08,675
alienate the audience yet.

1542
01:09:09,345 --> 01:09:13,645
This is horrific, but we have to figure
out a way to keep everybody there.

1543
01:09:13,875 --> 01:09:18,025
And then having Christian and Josh
writing a thesis about this community

1544
01:09:18,365 --> 01:09:20,235
was another good way to, do that.

1545
01:09:20,245 --> 01:09:22,245
Cause it was like, well,
now they're interested.

1546
01:09:22,545 --> 01:09:25,215
Now they're like, we got to
learn more about these people.

1547
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,540
when they set it up, like, no, no,
no, no, you can't have any access.

1548
01:09:28,540 --> 01:09:31,410
And then all of a sudden you get access.

1549
01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:33,950
Of course, that's going to be like, you're
going to be like, oh my God, I'm special.

1550
01:09:33,950 --> 01:09:34,410
I'm staying.

1551
01:09:34,410 --> 01:09:34,780
I'm

1552
01:09:34,988 --> 01:09:35,625
Yeah.

1553
01:09:35,625 --> 01:09:37,010
Yeah.

1554
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:37,790
off at first.

1555
01:09:37,790 --> 01:09:41,990
And then they got the permission and
that's got to give you some sort of,

1556
01:09:42,910 --> 01:09:46,510
I don't want to say ego or something,
but yeah, you're not going anywhere.

1557
01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:49,260
start getting a little weird.

1558
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:49,640
Cause

1559
01:09:50,875 --> 01:09:51,825
Simon left.

1560
01:09:53,185 --> 01:09:53,675
Simon left.

1561
01:09:55,385 --> 01:09:57,895
And you're like, wait a minute,
I don't know about this.

1562
01:09:59,645 --> 01:10:01,335
We see him later.

1563
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:03,750
Yes.

1564
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:04,610
Yeah.

1565
01:10:05,265 --> 01:10:05,745
Uh,

1566
01:10:05,970 --> 01:10:06,230
There's

1567
01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:08,790
some historical context to that as well.

1568
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:12,010
When we get to, when we find out
what happened to Simon when he

1569
01:10:12,010 --> 01:10:18,270
goes missing and they're told he
left, he caught a train and Yeah.

1570
01:10:18,540 --> 01:10:22,280
but we do have a conversation
between Pele and Danny there

1571
01:10:22,580 --> 01:10:23,140
when she's

1572
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:29,435
upset that, again, it's just
him being like, Hey, you know,

1573
01:10:29,515 --> 01:10:31,895
Christian, forgot your birthday.

1574
01:10:32,675 --> 01:10:33,385
Um,

1575
01:10:34,305 --> 01:10:34,525
Like,

1576
01:10:35,145 --> 01:10:41,095
You deserve, he tells her this, when
my parents died, this became my family.

1577
01:10:41,395 --> 01:10:41,615
This

1578
01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:42,575
is my family.

1579
01:10:42,855 --> 01:10:46,235
They, this is a community
that makes me feel held.

1580
01:10:46,745 --> 01:10:48,255
And you deserve that, Danny.

1581
01:10:48,255 --> 01:10:49,805
You deserve to feel held.

1582
01:10:50,485 --> 01:10:55,960
And I have some, uh,
theories about her growing

1583
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,850
up in her family.

1584
01:10:56,850 --> 01:11:00,550
She probably didn't have, she
wasn't allowed to have space or

1585
01:11:00,550 --> 01:11:02,330
be held at all in her family.

1586
01:11:02,330 --> 01:11:05,870
If her sister had mental health
struggles, she says she was

1587
01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:08,020
bipolar, always in a crisis.

1588
01:11:08,620 --> 01:11:14,881
I mean, how does that, how does
that, um, meet Dani as a person

1589
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,300
coming into this community.

1590
01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:16,970
Sure.

1591
01:11:17,050 --> 01:11:19,240
She just witnessed
something really horrific.

1592
01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:23,500
That's really disturbing, but
he's telling her like, this is a

1593
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:25,440
place where you will feel held.

1594
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,170
You're allowed to take up space.

1595
01:11:28,170 --> 01:11:30,180
And, um, that's really significant.

1596
01:11:30,370 --> 01:11:33,830
I think that's really significant to
point out that Dani's going to go through

1597
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:38,020
a sort of transformation here where
she's like, I'm not allowed to speak.

1598
01:11:38,050 --> 01:11:39,390
I'm not allowed to need things.

1599
01:11:39,501 --> 01:11:40,590
I'm not allowed to.

1600
01:11:40,990 --> 01:11:43,650
You know, especially with the way
Christian's friends have treated

1601
01:11:43,708 --> 01:11:47,380
her thus far, but how she grew up
in her family possibly is like,

1602
01:11:47,460 --> 01:11:48,720
I'm not allowed to take up space.

1603
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,920
I'm not allowed to have me.

1604
01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:50,590
Right.

1605
01:11:52,265 --> 01:11:52,505
So,

1606
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:53,600
So that's important to

1607
01:11:53,915 --> 01:11:55,795
so she went from being

1608
01:11:57,875 --> 01:12:03,295
unwanted, isolated,
undrafted, to, to a team.

1609
01:12:03,355 --> 01:12:05,525
It was like, oh, these
people like me, they want me.

1610
01:12:07,055 --> 01:12:09,145
You find out how much they want her later.

1611
01:12:09,615 --> 01:12:12,045
Not, not long from here, but before
we get to that, there's, there's

1612
01:12:13,315 --> 01:12:14,435
The, the, the book?

1613
01:12:15,485 --> 01:12:17,765
The Ruby, Ruby Radder.

1614
01:12:17,765 --> 01:12:18,755
Ruby Radar?

1615
01:12:18,895 --> 01:12:19,495
I don't know.

1616
01:12:20,350 --> 01:12:20,750
Yeah,

1617
01:12:20,810 --> 01:12:21,180
I'm

1618
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,740
your guess is as good as mine.

1619
01:12:23,955 --> 01:12:25,075
But this book's made up, right?

1620
01:12:25,075 --> 01:12:25,975
This is not a real book?

1621
01:12:26,270 --> 01:12:27,410
Yeah, yeah.

1622
01:12:27,710 --> 01:12:27,900
Uh,

1623
01:12:27,970 --> 01:12:32,830
ancient wisdom about
emotional states of mind and

1624
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:33,470
the

1625
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:35,170
elders translate it.

1626
01:12:35,630 --> 01:12:38,370
This is where you get into some
of the more inhumane practices.

1627
01:12:38,710 --> 01:12:42,660
Uh, not just the, um,
the cliff jumping ritual

1628
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,420
for

1629
01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:49,245
those that meet 72, but, uh, Uh, the
purposeful inbreeding so that they have

1630
01:12:49,245 --> 01:12:55,855
an, uh, uh, oracle of an unclouded mind
to be able to, make these books for them.

1631
01:12:55,935 --> 01:13:00,625
And I'm, there's part of me that
goes, well, there is something to be

1632
01:13:00,625 --> 01:13:05,205
said for people who have an unclouded
mind, probably are more connected

1633
01:13:05,205 --> 01:13:07,415
to source and divine inspiration.

1634
01:13:07,845 --> 01:13:11,715
Um, there's part of me that agrees with
that, but purposely inbreeding people.

1635
01:13:13,145 --> 01:13:16,175
so that you can get
people who will be able to

1636
01:13:16,525 --> 01:13:17,115
do that.

1637
01:13:17,155 --> 01:13:17,565
Yeah.

1638
01:13:18,175 --> 01:13:18,595
Yeah.

1639
01:13:18,835 --> 01:13:19,035
Real

1640
01:13:19,065 --> 01:13:19,335
icky.

1641
01:13:20,415 --> 01:13:20,815
I'm like,

1642
01:13:20,965 --> 01:13:22,635
uh, yeah,

1643
01:13:22,635 --> 01:13:23,755
disabled people, basically.

1644
01:13:23,755 --> 01:13:27,965
They got the, the, Embrad Disabled
to be the oracles and paint the

1645
01:13:27,965 --> 01:13:29,595
pictures and write the runes.

1646
01:13:30,305 --> 01:13:34,275
And you see Josh and, I guess, what is he?

1647
01:13:36,525 --> 01:13:36,895
Keeper.

1648
01:13:37,235 --> 01:13:37,675
Something.

1649
01:13:38,205 --> 01:13:38,725
You see him.

1650
01:13:39,155 --> 01:13:40,465
They're going through the book together.

1651
01:13:40,465 --> 01:13:40,855
and it's

1652
01:13:42,495 --> 01:13:44,875
he's giving him access to learn
about it, but he's like, you

1653
01:13:44,875 --> 01:13:46,175
can't take pictures of it.

1654
01:13:46,375 --> 01:13:47,955
And you have to keep
our names out of your,

1655
01:13:48,255 --> 01:13:48,385
out

1656
01:13:48,385 --> 01:13:49,505
of your thesis, right?

1657
01:13:49,535 --> 01:13:50,795
Like, be respectful, dude.

1658
01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:57,025
I'm 99 percent sure that they knew
Josh was going to come back in there.

1659
01:13:57,685 --> 01:13:59,685
They knew that was going to happen
because they set it up for that.

1660
01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:00,725
They were tempting him.

1661
01:14:00,835 --> 01:14:01,855
They tempted him big time.

1662
01:14:01,855 --> 01:14:05,125
It was another one of those, it
was a different type of seduction.

1663
01:14:05,135 --> 01:14:10,495
He was looking for, to
be seduced by, info.

1664
01:14:10,725 --> 01:14:11,235
He wanted that.

1665
01:14:11,245 --> 01:14:12,415
He wanted to know what was in that book.

1666
01:14:13,845 --> 01:14:15,430
There's 19 versions of that book.

1667
01:14:16,515 --> 01:14:17,275
interesting.

1668
01:14:17,275 --> 01:14:17,555
Yeah.

1669
01:14:17,575 --> 01:14:19,475
Josh was seduced by information.

1670
01:14:20,105 --> 01:14:24,710
Um, Mark was, uh, seduced by idiocy.

1671
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:25,190
I'm not

1672
01:14:25,340 --> 01:14:25,830
and whatever else.

1673
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:27,260
A good time or whatever.

1674
01:14:27,465 --> 01:14:27,650
Yeah.

1675
01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:28,340
Right.

1676
01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:28,950
Oh yeah.

1677
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:29,630
Good point.

1678
01:14:29,980 --> 01:14:32,450
And then you have Christian
who was seduced, literally.

1679
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,920
um, to become a, uh, a foreign seed to

1680
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:39,620
implant

1681
01:14:40,730 --> 01:14:41,670
into their community.

1682
01:14:41,850 --> 01:14:42,880
Danny was seduced.

1683
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:44,850
to become a part of this community.

1684
01:14:44,930 --> 01:14:46,340
To belong a part of this community.

1685
01:14:48,220 --> 01:14:49,490
Action is a big part of this.

1686
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:51,165
I mean, even when you have,

1687
01:14:52,430 --> 01:14:56,330
we'll get to it, but there's love rooms
that, that, that they slip under the bed.

1688
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,120
Before that though,

1689
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:01,690
the, the end of Mark.

1690
01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:03,650
We got Mark peeing on the tree.

1691
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,550
This is when, in this movie, these
people, the Horgan people are

1692
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,350
calm, polite.

1693
01:15:12,890 --> 01:15:13,400
Ninth.

1694
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,740
He pisses on that tree.

1695
01:15:16,770 --> 01:15:19,760
The, the, uh, the, the rock volta tree.

1696
01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:20,720
The rock volta tree.

1697
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,850
And, and he, he's on that.

1698
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:27,760
And you finally see the,
the villagers freak out.

1699
01:15:28,795 --> 01:15:30,185
Yeah, for sure.

1700
01:15:30,185 --> 01:15:32,205
That one guy who was like.

1701
01:15:33,285 --> 01:15:36,645
Swearing at him in Swedish,
he's screaming at him.

1702
01:15:36,665 --> 01:15:38,235
He's like, what an idiot.

1703
01:15:38,265 --> 01:15:39,125
How could you do this?

1704
01:15:39,235 --> 01:15:43,475
You peed on our sacred tree, this
tree that represents our ancestors.

1705
01:15:43,475 --> 01:15:47,745
And you can see them, um, take the
ashes from the, uh, couple that

1706
01:15:48,495 --> 01:15:52,235
met their demise and they sprinkle
it onto the roots of the tree.

1707
01:15:52,605 --> 01:15:53,015
So

1708
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:53,570
In the background.

1709
01:15:53,570 --> 01:15:53,660
You

1710
01:15:53,745 --> 01:15:54,235
the background

1711
01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:57,530
before, and then you all, and
then the camera pants, you can

1712
01:15:57,530 --> 01:16:00,680
actually see mark walk off towards
that tree before he does it.

1713
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,970
And then they go, it's a
beautiful, beautifully shot.

1714
01:16:05,565 --> 01:16:06,045
Yeah.

1715
01:16:06,495 --> 01:16:08,775
It's almost like there's a,
uh, like a stage play going on.

1716
01:16:08,785 --> 01:16:14,675
They had to set that up nicely in the,
and it's that moment though, to me.

1717
01:16:16,195 --> 01:16:17,485
you're like, all right, well,

1718
01:16:19,275 --> 01:16:22,865
I've already seen these
people kill people happily.

1719
01:16:23,895 --> 01:16:25,305
What's going to happen
when they're pissed off?

1720
01:16:26,035 --> 01:16:27,635
Like, that's what my mind went to.

1721
01:16:27,645 --> 01:16:32,415
It's like, uh, yeah, this
ain't gonna go good for Mark.

1722
01:16:32,465 --> 01:16:33,155
And

1723
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:36,050
Yeah, well, he's been branded the fool.

1724
01:16:36,770 --> 01:16:42,400
So we all know what happens to the fool
from the children's game in the beginning.

1725
01:16:43,180 --> 01:16:43,950
This is what he's going to

1726
01:16:43,950 --> 01:16:44,220
get.

1727
01:16:44,265 --> 01:16:47,585
gets, he gets, he does, he gets
his, he gets skinned, and someone

1728
01:16:47,585 --> 01:16:49,310
wears his skin as a mask later.

1729
01:16:50,845 --> 01:16:51,565
Not long after,

1730
01:16:51,580 --> 01:16:56,050
yeah, I knew on the second time I had to
pause it and like really pay attention.

1731
01:16:56,050 --> 01:17:02,270
Cause the first time I remember watching
it, I was like, wait, what just happened?

1732
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:05,990
Like I, um, when Josh
gets caught trying to.

1733
01:17:06,670 --> 01:17:12,800
Take pictures of the, of their sacred
book and there's Mark that's not Mark.

1734
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:14,640
Um, I was really confused.

1735
01:17:14,650 --> 01:17:16,610
The first time I saw it, I was
like, wait, what's happening?

1736
01:17:16,780 --> 01:17:17,170
Who is that?

1737
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:18,310
Is that Mark?

1738
01:17:18,370 --> 01:17:23,015
Or is that somebody else at the same
time really clarified some things for me.

1739
01:17:23,015 --> 01:17:24,585
because I was like, Oh, I get it.

1740
01:17:24,775 --> 01:17:25,535
I see what's happening.

1741
01:17:27,465 --> 01:17:28,765
wore his skin like a mask.

1742
01:17:28,805 --> 01:17:29,675
Like, it was

1743
01:17:30,165 --> 01:17:30,625
Yes.

1744
01:17:30,925 --> 01:17:31,465
not pretty.

1745
01:17:31,625 --> 01:17:32,595
Not pretty at all.

1746
01:17:34,005 --> 01:17:36,130
You get to, you get to that dinner

1747
01:17:37,525 --> 01:17:38,805
after Mark pees on the tree.

1748
01:17:38,805 --> 01:17:40,205
You got, you got to another dinner.

1749
01:17:40,770 --> 01:17:44,470
And it just feels awful.

1750
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:49,690
It feels, they put this
meat tart in front of them.

1751
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:54,790
You already kind of sit, you're
like, wait a minute, Simon's missing.

1752
01:17:56,590 --> 01:17:57,990
And his fiancee,

1753
01:17:58,050 --> 01:17:58,520
Connie

1754
01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:58,730
I

1755
01:17:58,785 --> 01:17:59,505
Connie, you find a,

1756
01:17:59,530 --> 01:18:00,130
she goes missing.

1757
01:18:00,345 --> 01:18:02,425
you find a pube in the food, a hair

1758
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,330
Yes, which was foreshadowed by the
tapestry earlier, If you watched

1759
01:18:06,380 --> 01:18:10,670
that tapestry and what happens, the
love rune under the bed and then

1760
01:18:10,670 --> 01:18:13,000
the pubic hair and the meat pie.

1761
01:18:13,020 --> 01:18:17,980
And it tells the whole story of how
they are trapping Christian, right?

1762
01:18:18,525 --> 01:18:20,305
and, and it's just,

1763
01:18:21,325 --> 01:18:24,685
it's all there for you to
see what's really happening

1764
01:18:25,015 --> 01:18:25,975
and what's going to happen.

1765
01:18:25,975 --> 01:18:28,405
It's the foreshadowing
is, is, is incredible.

1766
01:18:29,380 --> 01:18:29,770
Yeah.

1767
01:18:30,250 --> 01:18:31,440
Yeah, this is definitely a movie.

1768
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:31,915
You gotta watch

1769
01:18:32,215 --> 01:18:34,575
you have to, and we're
building, we're actually.

1770
01:18:34,925 --> 01:18:37,115
If you think it's not, we are.

1771
01:18:37,135 --> 01:18:38,600
We're building to a climactic end,

1772
01:18:40,355 --> 01:18:41,705
if it hasn't been enough already.

1773
01:18:41,835 --> 01:18:46,275
Like, it's, this movie really
takes you on this, it's a, it's,

1774
01:18:46,405 --> 01:18:48,675
it's an emotional journey that

1775
01:18:50,805 --> 01:18:51,445
it hits you.

1776
01:18:51,515 --> 01:18:52,175
It sticks with you.

1777
01:18:52,175 --> 01:18:53,995
You stick, this movie sticks
with you after you watch it.

1778
01:18:55,345 --> 01:18:58,115
know, and I'm just remembering too,
there's a nightmare that Dani has while

1779
01:18:58,115 --> 01:19:00,655
she's there after Simon and Connie.

1780
01:19:01,345 --> 01:19:01,395
Is

1781
01:19:01,395 --> 01:19:01,695
it Connie?

1782
01:19:01,935 --> 01:19:02,545
I think it's Connie.

1783
01:19:02,975 --> 01:19:05,165
When they go missing, she has
this nightmare where they're

1784
01:19:05,165 --> 01:19:06,265
driving away without her.

1785
01:19:06,545 --> 01:19:06,885
Yeah.

1786
01:19:06,995 --> 01:19:07,365
Oh yeah.

1787
01:19:07,585 --> 01:19:07,755
They're

1788
01:19:07,755 --> 01:19:10,655
getting in a car and they're
driving away and she keeps having

1789
01:19:10,655 --> 01:19:13,355
visions of her family dead and,

1790
01:19:13,625 --> 01:19:14,015
uh,

1791
01:19:14,055 --> 01:19:15,615
you know, the trauma
that she's been through.

1792
01:19:15,635 --> 01:19:19,355
This isn't surprising, but it all
leads back to this idea that Dani

1793
01:19:19,355 --> 01:19:20,735
doesn't have a place where she belongs.

1794
01:19:21,035 --> 01:19:21,535
Yeah.

1795
01:19:22,370 --> 01:19:27,290
And then when she's called in to wear
a white tunic and be a part of the

1796
01:19:27,332 --> 01:19:33,510
festivities to dance at the Maypole
competition, um, she's hallucinating

1797
01:19:33,550 --> 01:19:39,530
these roots growing from her feet,
is very, very heavily symbolic

1798
01:19:39,540 --> 01:19:43,190
in planting roots and belonging.

1799
01:19:43,410 --> 01:19:49,690
So it's, you know, it's all tying back
to, like, where is Dani finding her place?

1800
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,450
where she feels like she belongs.

1801
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:52,360
Where she's being

1802
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,370
Now, I didn't notice, I
didn't think about that.

1803
01:19:56,370 --> 01:19:59,110
Now, she's literally
growing roots right there.

1804
01:20:00,260 --> 01:20:04,910
This is after she, so she, so let's
just set this up first because

1805
01:20:05,170 --> 01:20:06,830
she drinks, they give her a drink,

1806
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,590
a little shot of something, and I'm
guessing it's more of that mushroom

1807
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,170
They all drink it together.

1808
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:12,540
Yeah,

1809
01:20:13,070 --> 01:20:16,120
All the girls, all the maidens that
are participating in the dance.

1810
01:20:16,660 --> 01:20:19,280
and then they get up, and they
start tripping, I'm guessing it's

1811
01:20:19,410 --> 01:20:22,060
that mushroom tea or something
again, some sort of psychedelic.

1812
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,180
Bunch of girls are in a pole, dancing
over and over and over, and The way

1813
01:20:28,180 --> 01:20:30,220
you win is to be the last one standing.

1814
01:20:31,090 --> 01:20:32,750
Yeah, it's like an endurance test.

1815
01:20:33,710 --> 01:20:34,010
while

1816
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:36,470
hallucinating on whatever the tea was,

1817
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,450
right?

1818
01:20:38,030 --> 01:20:40,650
It seemed to me the whole time that
Dani was just getting pulled along.

1819
01:20:41,050 --> 01:20:47,670
Like, I don't know if she really, um,
would've won, but it seemed like they

1820
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:49,220
were just, like, pulling her along.

1821
01:20:49,220 --> 01:20:51,140
And they're like, just
keep going, just keep

1822
01:20:51,140 --> 01:20:51,520
going.

1823
01:20:52,660 --> 01:20:54,300
do you think they let her win?

1824
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:57,110
I think it's possible.

1825
01:20:57,290 --> 01:21:02,990
I think that they were all along
kind of trying to recruit her, right?

1826
01:21:03,050 --> 01:21:05,170
Like, they picked her out.

1827
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:05,440
And

1828
01:21:05,740 --> 01:21:05,940
by

1829
01:21:05,940 --> 01:21:13,235
the way, it is also important to note that
the costume designer, um, um, I didn't

1830
01:21:13,235 --> 01:21:17,415
write down her name, but the costume
designer in this movie, she purposely put

1831
01:21:17,435 --> 01:21:22,555
Dani in very heavy, baggy, ill fitting
clothes for the beginning of the movie.

1832
01:21:22,985 --> 01:21:28,485
So all up until she goes into wearing
the white tunic that they all wear.

1833
01:21:29,020 --> 01:21:37,340
When that fits her perfectly and looks
good on her and makes her feel like

1834
01:21:37,340 --> 01:21:39,730
she belongs, this was all on purpose.

1835
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,240
So that's something to note too.

1836
01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:46,780
Andrea Flesch is the one who did the
costume design for, yeah, Andrea Flesch

1837
01:21:47,460 --> 01:21:51,570
did, um, Florence's costume design
for that and I did not notice that

1838
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:56,030
but I will really look at that again
because I love when people put that much

1839
01:21:56,030 --> 01:21:57,710
detail, that much effort, that much work

1840
01:21:57,970 --> 01:21:58,200
Oh

1841
01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:01,910
making us have a conversation
like this about it.

1842
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:03,630
Like it's, it's there,
it's there for a reason.

1843
01:22:04,190 --> 01:22:04,840
Brilliant.

1844
01:22:05,050 --> 01:22:06,080
They didn't accidentally do this.

1845
01:22:07,710 --> 01:22:10,190
We didn't even mention
that this is an A24 movie.

1846
01:22:11,950 --> 01:22:14,490
We should have known from the beginning,
if you're watching an A24 movie, you're

1847
01:22:14,490 --> 01:22:15,460
about to get something different.

1848
01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:16,520
You're about to get an experience.

1849
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:17,645
I love that company.

1850
01:22:19,620 --> 01:22:21,820
You don't, you don't
get the happy endings.

1851
01:22:23,335 --> 01:22:23,705
Yeah,

1852
01:22:23,870 --> 01:22:24,750
They're not going to give it to you.

1853
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:27,370
And some people don't like
that, but I love that.

1854
01:22:27,380 --> 01:22:32,960
And this movie right here, you
either see it one of two ways.

1855
01:22:32,970 --> 01:22:35,750
You either got a happy ending or
you didn't get a happy ending.

1856
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:37,835
I got a happy ending.

1857
01:22:38,245 --> 01:22:38,355
you

1858
01:22:38,355 --> 01:22:40,905
know, happy ending for who, is what I

1859
01:22:41,965 --> 01:22:45,415
Now, Dani definitely got a happy
ending, and this is what goes back

1860
01:22:45,415 --> 01:22:50,565
to what I said the genre of the
movie could be a revenge, a breakup

1861
01:22:50,565 --> 01:22:55,215
movie, because the very last scene,
she gives you that little smile, and

1862
01:22:55,245 --> 01:22:55,675
Yeah.

1863
01:22:56,375 --> 01:22:56,755
you're like,

1864
01:22:56,885 --> 01:22:59,055
everyone's weeping and wailing.

1865
01:23:00,315 --> 01:23:02,555
It's, it's very dramatic.

1866
01:23:02,595 --> 01:23:07,345
And she, uh, you think she's
falling apart at first.

1867
01:23:07,415 --> 01:23:14,755
You think she's like, Reliving her trauma
or, you know, she's gonna Completely fall

1868
01:23:14,755 --> 01:23:20,465
apart, but she stands there
very still and smiles.

1869
01:23:21,695 --> 01:23:22,355
looking amazing.

1870
01:23:22,475 --> 01:23:25,465
time I watched it, I was like,
what is, what is she gonna do?

1871
01:23:25,935 --> 01:23:26,885
Is she gonna leave?

1872
01:23:26,945 --> 01:23:27,825
Is she gonna go home?

1873
01:23:27,905 --> 01:23:28,365
Is she gonna?

1874
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,550
You know, I was like dying to
know the rest, and then the movie

1875
01:23:32,570 --> 01:23:35,025
ended, and I was like, what?!

1876
01:23:35,835 --> 01:23:39,895
you don't get those happy endings, but
you've got an open ended ending there.

1877
01:23:39,895 --> 01:23:41,175
I don't think she left that island.

1878
01:23:41,185 --> 01:23:41,945
There's no way.

1879
01:23:42,645 --> 01:23:43,755
There's no way she ever left.

1880
01:23:43,755 --> 01:23:44,735
I mean, she's at home now.

1881
01:23:45,185 --> 01:23:49,985
She went through the deepest, darkest
shit she can, and now she's a queen.

1882
01:23:51,220 --> 01:23:51,430
Yeah.

1883
01:23:51,445 --> 01:23:55,045
He got to sacrifice someone
who had been hurting her the

1884
01:23:55,045 --> 01:23:57,925
entire time, Piece of shit.

1885
01:23:58,055 --> 01:23:59,245
She saw him cheating on her.

1886
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:00,870
Yep.

1887
01:24:01,065 --> 01:24:01,575
come, like,

1888
01:24:02,300 --> 01:24:02,720
And,

1889
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,200
And, she had a choice.

1890
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:10,050
She could have sacrificed, uh,
the villager that was chosen.

1891
01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:13,850
And they gave her, as May Queen, it
was her right to choose who would

1892
01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:16,480
be the last of the nine, by the

1893
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:16,710
way.

1894
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:17,900
The number nine.

1895
01:24:18,570 --> 01:24:21,800
Nine, um, sacrifices for the feast.

1896
01:24:21,820 --> 01:24:28,840
And, she, uh, They don't show her
choosing, but you see that Christian

1897
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,330
is the one who gets prepared for the

1898
01:24:30,655 --> 01:24:33,525
I think all the way until you
see him, you're like, shit,

1899
01:24:33,545 --> 01:24:34,695
there's no way she's picking him.

1900
01:24:34,725 --> 01:24:37,085
There's no way she's gonna,
she's gonna pick him.

1901
01:24:37,085 --> 01:24:39,575
And then you're like, huh,
maybe she, maybe she should.

1902
01:24:40,135 --> 01:24:40,935
Maybe, like, after

1903
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:41,290
Yeah,

1904
01:24:41,385 --> 01:24:44,205
you figure out the shitty person he's been

1905
01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:47,360
her final, final stand.

1906
01:24:48,190 --> 01:24:50,210
Like, there's no going
back after this, right?

1907
01:24:50,210 --> 01:24:55,465
Like, For her to be able to go, Yep, this
is my community, this is where I belong.

1908
01:24:56,165 --> 01:24:59,345
I wanted to point out, too,
on her tunic, her rune,

1909
01:24:59,745 --> 01:25:02,685
which was the old lady's
rune, is this one.

1910
01:25:03,665 --> 01:25:08,430
And it is, um, The rune, uh, to
the translation for it is wagon.

1911
01:25:08,450 --> 01:25:09,770
So it's about travel.

1912
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,950
She does ride in a wagon, the way.

1913
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:15,750
But the spiritual
meaning of it is destiny.

1914
01:25:16,432 --> 01:25:20,820
So it's almost like this is really fitting
for her, because this is like her destiny.

1915
01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:23,380
This has been her entire
story up until now.

1916
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,316
Like, she's led to this
place, these people.

1917
01:25:27,910 --> 01:25:32,090
and the one on Christian's
tunic, which was on the man,

1918
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:32,780
is,

1919
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,170
One of them is this one, and it's Tywaz.

1920
01:25:36,210 --> 01:25:39,035
It's, uh, the translation is authority,

1921
01:25:39,335 --> 01:25:41,895
Justice,

1922
01:25:44,555 --> 01:25:48,575
righteousness is the,
uh, spiritual meaning.

1923
01:25:49,235 --> 01:25:52,655
I feel like this is like really
pointing to, I don't know if this

1924
01:25:52,655 --> 01:25:55,725
was all intentional, but I had
to go look this up just to see

1925
01:25:55,725 --> 01:25:57,295
like what connections are there.

1926
01:25:57,515 --> 01:26:01,135
But I feel like it's so fitting that
his tunic would have something about

1927
01:26:01,165 --> 01:26:03,585
justice and righteousness on it.

1928
01:26:04,155 --> 01:26:06,415
And authority, please.

1929
01:26:07,025 --> 01:26:07,475
Right?

1930
01:26:07,735 --> 01:26:11,375
Like, he's, yeah, he's a piece.

1931
01:26:11,415 --> 01:26:12,065
He's a piece.

1932
01:26:12,065 --> 01:26:13,265
That's all you can say.

1933
01:26:13,985 --> 01:26:19,025
And, I hate to say he got what's
coming to him, but they, I mean,

1934
01:26:19,185 --> 01:26:20,175
honestly, they kind of did.

1935
01:26:20,175 --> 01:26:23,035
Like, they, they, yeah, I mean.

1936
01:26:25,295 --> 01:26:29,185
It lets it open for interpretation
in that there's not anything that's

1937
01:26:29,265 --> 01:26:30,835
completely wrong or completely

1938
01:26:30,945 --> 01:26:31,325
right.

1939
01:26:31,705 --> 01:26:35,835
And like I said at the end of Wicker Man,
it's like, well, okay, obviously this is

1940
01:26:35,845 --> 01:26:42,135
very, inhumane to sacrifice a human being
and even the animals to, um, make sure

1941
01:26:42,135 --> 01:26:44,415
that their crops grow better next year.

1942
01:26:44,885 --> 01:26:47,865
Um, but then considering
all of the damage that

1943
01:26:48,065 --> 01:26:48,265
you know,

1944
01:26:48,695 --> 01:26:52,255
has been done in the Christian God's
name, I don't know, you could kind of,

1945
01:26:52,755 --> 01:26:54,575
you can kind of argue it either way.

1946
01:26:55,285 --> 01:26:57,445
the friend that pulls her into the dance

1947
01:26:57,725 --> 01:26:57,895
is

1948
01:26:57,895 --> 01:26:58,675
wearing this on her

1949
01:26:58,935 --> 01:26:59,355
Okay.

1950
01:27:00,075 --> 01:27:06,225
This is Canaz and it's translation
is the torch and it's, meaning is

1951
01:27:06,225 --> 01:27:08,745
enlightenment, knowledge, a new outlook.

1952
01:27:10,385 --> 01:27:10,905
Okay.

1953
01:27:11,625 --> 01:27:14,825
This is the one pulling her into
the dance and dancing with her

1954
01:27:14,915 --> 01:27:15,755
I love it.

1955
01:27:18,005 --> 01:27:18,725
Very cool.

1956
01:27:18,725 --> 01:27:20,475
Super

1957
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,880
the director if that was intentional,
but, um, for me, it doesn't matter.

1958
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,090
I think it's really cool anyway.

1959
01:27:27,155 --> 01:27:27,455
cool.

1960
01:27:27,495 --> 01:27:28,565
I'm glad that you caught that.

1961
01:27:29,385 --> 01:27:33,795
A lot of stuff that I didn't
and These two movies though

1962
01:27:35,995 --> 01:27:39,125
Like I said at the beginning one
was the beginning of this and

1963
01:27:39,125 --> 01:27:41,755
then one is basically to me was

1964
01:27:42,905 --> 01:27:43,605
A new version.

1965
01:27:43,635 --> 01:27:45,995
It was like let's let's
let's get some folk horror.

1966
01:27:46,005 --> 01:27:50,995
I know there's been a lot between
here between Liquor man and midsummer.

1967
01:27:50,995 --> 01:27:55,615
There's sure there's tons of folk horror
movies, but these two stand out to me.

1968
01:27:57,705 --> 01:27:58,645
What's your final thought on midsummer?

1969
01:28:00,445 --> 01:28:00,975
Um,

1970
01:28:03,125 --> 01:28:06,695
probably even more so than Wicker
Man, although I think it's a theme in

1971
01:28:06,695 --> 01:28:14,405
both, um, Midsommar having that, uh,
Lore of intense support and community.

1972
01:28:15,375 --> 01:28:16,895
That's really significant to

1973
01:28:16,895 --> 01:28:17,205
me.

1974
01:28:17,525 --> 01:28:21,355
I mean, whether you call it evil and
like all the things that they did evil,

1975
01:28:21,355 --> 01:28:27,160
this community obviously has, um, some
twisted ideas about death and murder.

1976
01:28:27,780 --> 01:28:34,010
Um, but the, the lore of the community
is pretty, look how strong that was.

1977
01:28:34,220 --> 01:28:38,920
Look how powerful that was for Dani to go
from, you know, the tragedy she came from,

1978
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,670
the world we know, the culture we know.

1979
01:28:42,250 --> 01:28:46,805
And to go into that and be like,
actually, this is what I want.

1980
01:28:46,905 --> 01:28:56,345
And, um, when Christian is going
through the Ceremony or ritual of, uh,

1981
01:28:58,845 --> 01:28:59,585
what do you call it?

1982
01:28:59,645 --> 01:29:00,795
Uh, copulation.

1983
01:29:01,715 --> 01:29:02,885
When he's going through

1984
01:29:02,935 --> 01:29:05,325
impregnating the young
maiden that's lured him.

1985
01:29:05,325 --> 01:29:05,615
Right.

1986
01:29:05,915 --> 01:29:07,735
And he may have been
drugged during all that

1987
01:29:08,225 --> 01:29:08,735
probably.

1988
01:29:09,185 --> 01:29:14,285
But, uh, when he's going through
that, there's a room full of women.

1989
01:29:15,535 --> 01:29:18,785
Almost as if they're going through
the sexual experience as well.

1990
01:29:18,815 --> 01:29:20,555
All of them are going through it together.

1991
01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:25,205
These older women, all of them were
probably crone age, if you're kind

1992
01:29:25,205 --> 01:29:26,555
of looking at it in that sense.

1993
01:29:26,995 --> 01:29:28,465
They're mothers or crones.

1994
01:29:29,065 --> 01:29:31,525
and they're all going through it
with this maiden who's getting

1995
01:29:31,525 --> 01:29:35,025
impregnated, which I know he had a
moment where he was like, this is

1996
01:29:35,105 --> 01:29:35,425
weird.

1997
01:29:35,615 --> 01:29:36,255
What's going on?

1998
01:29:37,325 --> 01:29:41,475
But in the meantime, while that's
happening, Danny, who sees what he's

1999
01:29:41,495 --> 01:29:45,525
doing and is going through again,
another moment of extreme grief.

2000
01:29:46,730 --> 01:29:53,455
She goes into the other barn
and she's Wailing in grief,

2001
01:29:53,775 --> 01:29:55,355
which we've seen her do before,

2002
01:29:55,625 --> 01:29:55,755
in

2003
01:29:56,055 --> 01:30:00,815
the movie, She did that isolated
and alone, and now she's doing it

2004
01:30:00,815 --> 01:30:03,385
with a group of maidens around her.

2005
01:30:03,445 --> 01:30:04,795
They're all holding

2006
01:30:04,875 --> 01:30:06,885
her, and they're not just like,

2007
01:30:07,315 --> 01:30:07,795
going

2008
01:30:07,805 --> 01:30:08,085
through it.

2009
01:30:08,105 --> 01:30:10,005
They're not just like,
shush, shush, they're there.

2010
01:30:10,385 --> 01:30:12,445
They're wailing with her.

2011
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,340
They join her in grief.

2012
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,240
I think that's really significant.

2013
01:30:17,810 --> 01:30:20,680
That to me, is kind of the
epitome of the entire movie.

2014
01:30:20,690 --> 01:30:23,250
This is about a girl who
is looking for belonging.

2015
01:30:23,410 --> 01:30:25,000
She is looking to be held.

2016
01:30:25,310 --> 01:30:29,340
She's looking for a space where she takes
up space and is allowed to take up space.

2017
01:30:30,110 --> 01:30:35,700
And yeah, you can put it all with all
the horror and gross and, um, you know,

2018
01:30:35,740 --> 01:30:37,400
entertainment that goes along with it.

2019
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,880
But to me, that is the
central theme of this movie.

2020
01:30:40,590 --> 01:30:41,250
I love that.

2021
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:47,080
I think what I got to do now is since
you're the expert on this kind of stuff,

2022
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:52,410
out of both of these movies, is this real?

2023
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:54,190
Can this, is this happening somewhere?

2024
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,310
Did this stuff happen?

2025
01:30:55,310 --> 01:30:58,070
Like what, what's the real context here?

2026
01:30:59,020 --> 01:31:00,480
Do you think this is kind of stuff?

2027
01:31:01,110 --> 01:31:04,260
Because if you go to Sweden
midsummer right now, it's not this.

2028
01:31:04,580 --> 01:31:09,090
And I know for a fact that the
Swedes laugh at this movie.

2029
01:31:09,925 --> 01:31:12,645
They, they, they look at this
as a black comedy, they think

2030
01:31:12,645 --> 01:31:14,685
it's, they, they, they really do

2031
01:31:14,741 --> 01:31:15,350
I'm sure.

2032
01:31:15,915 --> 01:31:20,425
because it's nothing like what
a Midsommar is, but is there

2033
01:31:20,425 --> 01:31:21,675
somewhere doing this kind of stuff?

2034
01:31:22,535 --> 01:31:23,435
Did they used to do this?

2035
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,310
I wouldn't say anything's possible.

2036
01:31:25,340 --> 01:31:28,670
I mean, there are some ancient
traditions that have, like, upheld

2037
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:32,665
and there may be, I mean, we,
we're not unfamiliar with cults

2038
01:31:33,310 --> 01:31:35,690
and cult risings everywhere on earth.

2039
01:31:35,810 --> 01:31:39,720
I mean, everywhere there are extremists,
there are fundamentalists, there are

2040
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:45,470
people that take their beliefs too far
into actually causing harm to people.

2041
01:31:45,530 --> 01:31:49,445
So, um, my take was Yeah,
it's absolutely possible.

2042
01:31:49,445 --> 01:31:55,285
But my, my personal belief in, um,
Christianity and paganism is that.

2043
01:31:55,975 --> 01:32:00,715
Uh, I, what I would want people to take
away from this is that some of these

2044
01:32:00,715 --> 01:32:05,305
traditions, um, that you see in these
movies, like the hobby horse and the,

2045
01:32:05,305 --> 01:32:10,665
um, those, uh, mayday celebrations,
so they're celebrating mayday, um, in,

2046
01:32:11,515 --> 01:32:12,025
um,

2047
01:32:12,085 --> 01:32:13,045
in the Wickerman in.

2048
01:32:14,150 --> 01:32:18,450
And you see some of those
traditions still, still done.

2049
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,500
Some of the, the meanings behind it have
changed and adapted and even Christianity

2050
01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:25,490
coming in and kind of making it
Christianized like we did with Christmas

2051
01:32:26,180 --> 01:32:30,000
and taking Yule and Yule solstice and
making it into a Christian holiday.

2052
01:32:30,500 --> 01:32:30,830
But.

2053
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:31,540
Um,

2054
01:32:31,540 --> 01:32:36,170
The hobby horse in the parades that
they do at May Day, those still

2055
01:32:36,170 --> 01:32:37,780
exist in England in small towns.

2056
01:32:37,900 --> 01:32:43,040
And Morris dancing and, um, you know,
a lot of it is making a revival.

2057
01:32:43,230 --> 01:32:47,540
We're trying to go back to like,
well, what were these, uh, what were

2058
01:32:47,540 --> 01:32:49,180
these traditions that they used to do?

2059
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:53,190
Um, you'll notice in Wicker Man,
they have, Um, These braided wheat

2060
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,390
things that kind of hang in the
schoolhouse and they kind of, you

2061
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:57,680
notice it throughout the movie.

2062
01:32:58,270 --> 01:33:03,760
Um, those are things that I and
my friends do at, um, we just did

2063
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:08,310
it at LaMasse or Lunestad, uh,
our Wheel of the Year celebration.

2064
01:33:08,310 --> 01:33:13,770
We braided wheat into a sun and to honor
the wheat that is harvested right now.

2065
01:33:14,340 --> 01:33:15,680
So you, you see a lot of it.

2066
01:33:15,700 --> 01:33:18,080
And so if you're asking if these
movies are real, I would say.

2067
01:33:18,415 --> 01:33:20,805
Yes, there's a lot of
real to these movies.

2068
01:33:21,105 --> 01:33:24,025
Hopefully not the
horrific parts, but Yeah.

2069
01:33:24,025 --> 01:33:26,515
A lot of the traditions
and stuff are still very

2070
01:33:26,740 --> 01:33:27,740
Well, they make it feel real.

2071
01:33:27,740 --> 01:33:32,550
I mean, even in Wicker Man, the very
opening, you got that opening thing that

2072
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:38,320
says, Thank you to the Lord Summerisle
for allowing us to, and I'm like,

2073
01:33:38,350 --> 01:33:40,100
you're like, wait, is this a true story?

2074
01:33:40,110 --> 01:33:41,110
Is this a documentary?

2075
01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:42,160
Like, what is this?

2076
01:33:42,955 --> 01:33:43,315
Right.

2077
01:33:43,545 --> 01:33:44,845
Well, I do find it very strange.

2078
01:33:44,845 --> 01:33:47,645
And there's one, one thing that,
um, in Wicker Man, I forgot to

2079
01:33:47,645 --> 01:33:50,865
mention is the the more English

2080
01:33:51,165 --> 01:33:55,405
hierarchal, Uh, role that
Lord Summerisle plays.

2081
01:33:55,425 --> 01:33:56,485
He lives in in like a

2082
01:33:56,610 --> 01:33:59,755
castle, almost like he has
been lorded by the king.

2083
01:34:00,065 --> 01:34:07,165
It's like, that's a little bit
contradictory to the pagan, um, kind of

2084
01:34:07,175 --> 01:34:08,755
way of life that they have on this island.

2085
01:34:08,755 --> 01:34:10,975
So I don't know where that was
supposed to play a part in this,

2086
01:34:10,975 --> 01:34:14,245
but it's like having him live in a
castle and be lord over everyone.

2087
01:34:15,605 --> 01:34:18,165
Kind of contradicts that idea,
but, you know, maybe they're

2088
01:34:18,165 --> 01:34:19,865
just kind of marrying those ideas

2089
01:34:19,865 --> 01:34:20,245
together.

2090
01:34:20,410 --> 01:34:22,820
Christopher Lee though, so we
didn't second guess anything.

2091
01:34:23,370 --> 01:34:24,450
I mean, he's a legend.

2092
01:34:26,105 --> 01:34:26,565
he's great.

2093
01:34:28,325 --> 01:34:29,165
Amazing time.

2094
01:34:30,975 --> 01:34:32,125
What else we got to say about this?

2095
01:34:32,125 --> 01:34:32,535
Anything?

2096
01:34:34,225 --> 01:34:36,045
I think we covered it really well.

2097
01:34:36,365 --> 01:34:39,765
We've got a lot going on
in these movies, so, whew,

2098
01:34:42,247 --> 01:34:45,127
Two bangers right out
of the gate, Courtney.

2099
01:34:45,147 --> 01:34:46,057
The Wicker Man.

2100
01:34:46,827 --> 01:34:47,077
Mm hmm.

2101
01:34:48,187 --> 01:34:50,557
Like, it's on my screen right now.

2102
01:34:50,777 --> 01:34:54,317
And it just, I just, there
was a trailer playing for it.

2103
01:34:54,317 --> 01:34:57,557
Cause I had, I had my, I had
the IMDB picked up and all that.

2104
01:34:57,727 --> 01:35:00,227
And it was when he was in
the, the man and burning up.

2105
01:35:01,447 --> 01:35:01,967
Mm hmm.

2106
01:35:02,577 --> 01:35:02,927
Yeah.

2107
01:35:02,987 --> 01:35:04,787
The internets were listening to you.

2108
01:35:05,097 --> 01:35:10,267
In Midsommar, it's just as disturbing,
like, it's, there's nothing else

2109
01:35:10,267 --> 01:35:12,117
to say, we said it all, now,

2110
01:35:12,507 --> 01:35:14,367
We picked these movies apart pretty well.

2111
01:35:14,467 --> 01:35:19,817
We've got, we went right down through
each and every infamous scene.

2112
01:35:20,507 --> 01:35:24,117
I had a lot of fun, I had a lot of
fun, first of all, and I can't wait

2113
01:35:24,127 --> 01:35:29,527
to see what else comes in this Witch
Movie Project series, and I really

2114
01:35:29,527 --> 01:35:35,317
can't wait for October 26th, at Novel
Daybreak by Crescent Communities.

2115
01:35:35,347 --> 01:35:39,457
They are proud to present the
Witch Movie Project live podcast

2116
01:35:39,497 --> 01:35:41,447
taping and movie screening.

2117
01:35:42,197 --> 01:35:45,477
This is where the people
at home can vote a movie.

2118
01:35:45,677 --> 01:35:49,677
So today, for instance, you would vote
between the Wicker Man and Midsommar.

2119
01:35:50,627 --> 01:35:50,897
Yes.

2120
01:35:50,967 --> 01:35:51,597
do you like?

2121
01:35:51,777 --> 01:35:51,977
Where

2122
01:35:52,147 --> 01:35:52,377
Yeah,

2123
01:35:52,437 --> 01:35:53,967
Where are they voting at, Courtney?

2124
01:35:54,657 --> 01:35:57,387
you can contact us on
either of our social medias.

2125
01:35:57,417 --> 01:36:02,557
So if you come to mine, Prism
Healing, I have um, Instagram at Prism

2126
01:36:02,607 --> 01:36:08,037
underscore healing and on my Facebook,
Courtney Pearl's Prism Healing.

2127
01:36:08,327 --> 01:36:12,267
So you can direct message me your
vote or on Ride the Wave Media,

2128
01:36:13,437 --> 01:36:16,157
That's right, at Ride the
Wave Media, across the board.

2129
01:36:16,167 --> 01:36:24,727
Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter
slash X, I think is at RTW Podcasts and

2130
01:36:24,727 --> 01:36:25,917
then you've got the YouTube channel.

2131
01:36:25,917 --> 01:36:28,817
That's where you can see
our, our beautiful faces.

2132
01:36:28,817 --> 01:36:30,497
I don't know about ours.

2133
01:36:32,067 --> 01:36:33,247
At least one of us.

2134
01:36:33,347 --> 01:36:36,487
We ain't gonna, we won't pick
who, we won't pick who, but it's

2135
01:36:36,987 --> 01:36:37,217
the prettiest.

2136
01:36:37,217 --> 01:36:37,727
Oh

2137
01:36:38,237 --> 01:36:41,487
Yeah, at Ride the Wave
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2138
01:36:42,577 --> 01:36:47,137
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2139
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2140
01:36:52,517 --> 01:36:52,537
yeah,

2141
01:36:52,537 --> 01:36:52,657
Stacey.

2142
01:36:54,237 --> 01:36:55,297
so much for everything.

2143
01:36:55,687 --> 01:36:56,747
We'll see you guys next week.