Exploring Witchy Classics: Practical Magic & The Witches of Eastwick

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Ah!

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Welcome to my lair.

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You are now in the witch's cauldron and
we are here to talk about witches today.

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Yes, this is The Witch
Movie Project, right?

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Courtney, we're still doing this.

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This has been so much fun, has it not?

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It's been a blast.

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Like we've had

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time.

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We've had some crazy stuff happen during
the taping of this, during the recordings,

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all the way from getting stars of the
movie themselves to come on the show.

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Pure magic.

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We

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Pure magic.

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it and it just came into our lives.

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Practical magic.

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Wait a minute.

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I'll just spoil the movie for today,
but they already read the title.

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They see this, they know, and they
knew if they knew you, people out

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there had to know that you were
going to pick this movie, right?

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I mean, I did host a party last year
practical magic movie party for anybody

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who said they hadn't seen the movie before
and I was like, you're coming to my house,

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and we're doing midnight margaritas.

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I love it.

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And you've also, you also host a podcast.

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that you stole the name from the movie.

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yeah, it's

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Okay.

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Okay.

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inspired.

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You didn't, you didn't steal it.

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It's an homage, I believe
is what we would call that.

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You got an homage to the movie
Practical Magic with your podcast

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Practically Magic, which is found
right here on Ride the Wave Media.

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Plugged.

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Cheap plug.

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I had to do that, you know, so.

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Alright,

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it.

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You deserve all of it.

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but let me hear about this, this,
uh, this midnight margarita party.

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What, what was this like?

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Um, pretty lame, actually.

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Sandra Bullock didn't show up?

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It was a lot more fun in the movie.

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Oh,

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I got a couple of friends over.

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We watched the movie.

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I got to, uh, you know, share
my, um, my love for the movie.

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And, um, that was good enough.

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I think it's just fun to get
together with your friends.

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well listen, let's talk about the party
that is not gonna be lame, for sure,

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that's coming up, that's coming up.

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Centered around the Witch Movie

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better.

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Yeah, right.

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Centered around the Witch Movie Project.

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It's the live podcast
taping and movie screening.

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Plus the huge contest
now, the costume contest.

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The Witch Movie Project.

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Live Cake Parties.

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Gonna crush it with, I can't wait
to see what Karla sets up in there.

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are amazing.

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I was

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Ooh!

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other day about some of the birthday
parties I've seen her put together.

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I mean, it, it rivals
those Kardashian parties

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It does, and you know, and you know what?

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And you know what?

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Karla loves Halloween.

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So I can't wait to see what
she comes down there and tears

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it up with live cake parties.

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And don't forget, we got Stacey
Millhorn out there at Pure Sweat

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and Float Studios in South Jordan.

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If you haven't done that yet, you
guys gotta go out there and get

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a float, cause it's incredible.

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It's incredible.

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Yeah.

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Friend of mine just did the
sauna when she was sick.

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She had all kinds of going on
and then she went into the sauna.

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She's like, I feel a ton better.

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Cleared her up, huh?

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I did the same thing.

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It's wild.

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It's, it's incredible.

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But right now, get cozy, get some,
uh, tequila, margaritas ready,

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if you want to do that with us.

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But right now we're going to get into
Practical Magic, the 1998 witchy drama

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that's all about spells, sisterhood,
and Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman

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looking like a dream team, right?

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Like they do.

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take their picture to my, uh, hairdresser.

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that movie, and I'm like, can you cut it?

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Can you style it?

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Can you do it exactly like that?

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I grew my hair out because
of that movie of them.

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you had the hairstyle of Nicole
Kidman, or which one, which character

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did you have the hairstyle of?

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Either.

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I mean, they're both just, they're
like the Rachel from Friends, right?

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Of the, of the witch community, if

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I love it now.

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I love it.

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So this movie though, is also,
it's directed by Griffin Dunn,

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and it's based on a mo, it's
based on a novel by Alice Hoffman.

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Uh, it's got, it's got a great
mix of romance, tragedy, and a

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healthy sprinkle of supernatural
antics, really, because you get to

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see this as the movie progresses.

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Is this the witch movie of
all witch movies, Courtney?

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I gotta ask you that.

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for sure, hands down.

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Okay.

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So I know we've been going through
a lot of different witch movies.

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We've done some family friendly ones.

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We've done a lot of horror genre, which
I love, you know, I love, there's no

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contest for me that if you were to ask
anyone, anyone, Who's like, what movie

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really, truly depicts magic in the way
that understand it, the way magical

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people understand it, it's this movie.

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Really?

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did read the book years ago, by the way.

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It's very different.

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It's a very different feel.

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is a little more whimsical, the movie.

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It kind of centers around
Sally and, um, and Jilly.

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But, uh, the book centers
more around Sally's story.

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Girls, they're older in
the book and it's darker.

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It's a little slower.

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It's a little more kind
of a different vibe.

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Does it still have that, uh,
that complex feel of, is this a

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kid's thing or an adult thing?

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Does it still have that balance?

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Like, weird balance?

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how the critics were
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And when the movie came out, I mean,
the book is just straight up adults.

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You know, kind of a dark, magical sort
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out, people were like, I'm so confused.

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Is this a kid's movie?

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Cause it's too adult to be a kid's movie.

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And it's too kid to be an adult movie.

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I, it wasn't like super great when it
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it has become like a cult classic.

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I mean, you can't like throw a
rock in Halloween season without

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somebody mentioning practical magic,

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Now, you gotta point out also here that
the time period that this came out in,

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1998, is way different than 2024 right
now, because to me, this is a kids movie.

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Like, I watch it and sure, there's
language in there, but my kids are

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out there saying whatever already.

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my kids have all seen it.

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bother me.

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Like,

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year.

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yeah, it doesn't bother me,
but to me, it is a kids movie.

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Let's call it a family movie.

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I think it's more of a family movie
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it does, it covers all of it.

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It's got the balance.

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Let's talk about the plot.

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It's Sally, Jilly, Owens.

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They're the ladies in a long
line of witches, cursed in love.

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They've almost got the same type
of curse that our love witch had

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back in the other movie, right?

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Earlier in this project
we did the love witch.

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that they thread that line
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17th century in New England.

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You know, here's their ancestor
Maria who is hated by the town.

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Especially because, um, the women.

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want to protect their
husbands from someone who has

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clearly some sexual energy.

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I don't know, you know, that's
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come from anyway, right?

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yeah, so that's got historical reference
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what they show here at the beginning
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And then basically what we find out is
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with an Owens woman meets a grim death.

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Like it's, it's, they're done.

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Like everybody that falls in love.

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Jilly gets tangled up with Jimmy.

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This dude's a creep.

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Like, is he not?

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Yeah, obviously we're like looking
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witch and what makes her useful or how
she's perceived by her community, right?

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So like, Jilly has all this sexual
energy, you know, Nicole Kidman.

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Oh my gosh.

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I have like a big girl crush on her.

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I can't

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I still,

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She's amazing.

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she still, she was in something
just not long ago and I still, I was

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like, she still looks incredible.

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Like it's,

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Isn't she just like dripping with it?

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Like, she's just like, just
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and everybody's like, oh, like,

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she's got a, she's got an aura,
she's got a a, a witchy aura already.

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I think there's some
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I, I do think some of them women
are witches, and I don't mean

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that in a derogatory Tyra because
I mean, hell, I'm part of.

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Yeah, yeah, very powerful.

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Very powerful.

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But I have to highlight this generational
curse we have here because the

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healing work that I do, this is very
much some of the healing work that's

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needed in like any family, not which
families, but like generational things

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that have happened in your ancestry
can affect generations beyond that.

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So knowing what their ancestor Maria went
through when she was cast out from the

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community and she was labeled a witch
and now the Owens women have to relate

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with how that affects them throughout
their lives and their love lives.

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That's very much a real thing.

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I mean, that's something that I work with
people in the healing space is what sort

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of things didn't start with you that now
you and your lifetime are having to deal

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with and heal and witness about yourself.

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is that like a, like a
trauma therapy type thing?

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Or what is that?

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Yeah.

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What do you do?

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does.

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So what would a, what would a
witch, what would a witch do in

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that situation to help somebody?

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Like, what, what would you do?

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What would you do?

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So for me personally, I use the healing
techniques of Reiki and emotional

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processing when I am with a client,
I'm working emotional processing.

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We're pulling out energy and
we're discovering what it

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is that needs to be moved.

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Right?

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So in.

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The movie, the way that Sally, so
we're talking about young Sally in

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the beginning when she's making that
love spell and she's going around the

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greenhouse and she's, because she's
like, I never want to fall in love.

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She, she's seeing these women who are like
tapping at the glass at her aunt's house.

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You know, they're like crazy in
love and they just want like spells.

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They want someone to
be obsessed with them.

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um, This is like really exciting to Jilly.

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She's like, I can't wait to fall in love.

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And Sally is like, I never
want to fall in love.

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This looks awful.

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Yeah,

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It's horrible.

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So she goes around and she's picking
petals off of, um, plants, right?

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And she's putting it in a bowl.

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it's almost like, There's no, uh,
official rule book about how this works.

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She's like, you know, his
favorite shape will be a star.

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And she seeks a petal that's a star shape.

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And she puts it in her bowl.

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I have done enough courses and classes on
magic to know that this is more accurate

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than not, that when creating a spell,
it's less important that you're getting

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the right ingredients and more important
that you're infusing it with intention.

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So it's a lot like when little
kids are making potions out of

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mud and sticks in their backyard.

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It really does look
more like that than not.

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Like, she's just like, I'm
gonna do this, and I'm gonna

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put that, and I'm gonna do that.

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And then she goes out, and it's
like full moon, and she just lets

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the petals fly in the wind, and
voila, she's created a spell.

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But the spell is ultimately what
helps break the curse, right?

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yeah.

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And that's, that's,
that's part of the plot.

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I didn't finish the initial

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The

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plot outline, but basically,
after she gets with Jimmy

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the creep, it all goes south.

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He meets his demise at
the hands of the witches.

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Yeah,

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which style?

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In which?

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Exactly, in which style?

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It was which style?

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And he doesn't stay dead.

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There's a ghostly showdown, some
serious sisterhood bonding, and then

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finally she breaks the family curse.

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Like, they break it at the end, but
that's basically, that's the movie.

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That's the plot outline, but
there's so much more to dig into.

282
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Like, there is a lot to
get into in this movie.

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Yeah, the actual, like, love that
breaks the curse between sisters,

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these blood sisters, right?

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Um, which, by the way, uh, Sandra Bullock
and Nicole Kidman had spent so much

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time on set together in rehearsals and
stuff, they, um, I think it was Sandra

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Bullock that said, I want Nicole Kidman.

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I want her to play my sister, and brought
her in to the movie after she was cast.

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So The, um, the producers of the
show were like, they actually

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became very much like sisters.

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They were, they fought like sisters.

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They bonded like sisters.

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And, um, and I love hearing
that because you see it come

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through in their performance.

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They're so sister like.

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They're just so connected, right?

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Yeah, so the dynamic of them on
set, though, behind the scenes, they

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encountered kind of a weird, like, a
unexpected And what it was, was Griffin

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Dunn, he's the, he's the director.

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He had Sandra Bullock on one side
and Nicole Kidman on one side, and

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Sandra Bullock was doing all of
her takes in two, three takes done.

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Nicole Kidman, on the other hand, had
just gotten done working with Stanley

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Kubrick for 18 months on Eyes Wide Shut.

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Now, Stanley.

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is infamous or famous, whichever
one you want to look at it,

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for doing like 70, 80 takes.

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So you had Sandra Bullock
doing two or three,

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It's like,

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like I'm done.

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And yeah, and then Nicole Kidman
needed like 70 or 80 takes for this.

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That had to be, that had to cost
some real on set, yeah, fighting.

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Uh,

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so.

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I

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I'm sure

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Bullock just standing there going
like, come on, what are we doing?

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you can only take that so much when
you're like, hey man, I'm, I'm done.

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Like, like get it together, you know,
like it's either that or I don't know.

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If she was trying to be the perfectionist,
because that's what Kubrick was, you know,

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he had other movies, he had, uh, 2001,
you know, you know, all those movies out

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there, he put so much effort into that it
wasn't ever going to be two, three takes.

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So, She had to get out of that mind frame.

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That's, that to me is, that's
a huge drastic difference when

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you're working on a film like that.

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So yeah, but

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Makes sense why, uh, Nicole Kidman was
dripping with sexual energy after coming

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off of that movie and then coming in

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does, she

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a witch.

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just came out of, uh, 18 months of orgies,
you know, that's what she'd been doing.

331
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mean, yeah, let's just,
let's call it what it is.

332
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But uh, speaking of Dunn and
did you hear about the story?

333
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They had, um, hired a witch to be a
consultant on set and, um, I was thinking

334
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to myself when I read this, I, sign me up.

335
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Who needs a witch to be a
consultant on a movie stage?

336
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I will do it in a heartbeat.

337
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But, um, apparently this witch
didn't like what she was paid.

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She was, um, asking for more money and
they were like, Sorry, this is what's

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in your contract or whatever it is.

340
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and she cursed the set.

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And Dunn had to bring in, um, some
other, I don't know what he brought,

342
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who he brought in or what he did,
but they, they held like a, with all

343
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of the, um, actors, they held like a
seance or a ceremony to break the curse

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or to cleanse the set of the curse.

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and he's quoted as saying, curses only
have power if you believe in them.

346
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So, apparently he believed that
perhaps this curse was correct, it

347
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was real, and that he was like, well,
you know, it won't hurt to maybe just

348
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bring somebody in, and we'll just
kind of cleanse the set of the curse

349
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No, that's wild.

350
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That's wild, because I've heard the
stories about, you know, during filming,

351
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cast and crew, they would experience,
like, strange unexplained events.

352
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The clocks would stop at midnight,
lights flickering, which that, I guess,

353
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did lead to the real exorcism on, on
the set, if you want to call it that.

354
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That's

355
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what it was.

356
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It had to have been an exorcism.

357
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So, so you're telling me that while
the Owens sisters were battling the

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undead lovers and family curses on
the screen, that the cast and crew

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were really dealing with, like,
seriously spooky stuff off screen?

360
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Which we have, this is not the
first movie that we've reviewed.

361
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On the which movie podcast, which movie
project podcast, where we've talked

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about like this kind of stuff happening
behind the scenes or like when you're

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delving into this world of magic, um,
kind of being able to see what is the

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unseen, what are we not, you know,
what are we experiencing here, right?

365
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That's dedication to the craft.

366
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I can tell you that.

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Cause I don't know if I'd stay
on a movie set, making a scary

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movie and there's really scary,

369
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I'll probably take it as a sign,
like, get the fuck out of there.

370
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I don't know.

371
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Yeah, I hereby bless this podcast and
I hereby bless this podcast and ward

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off any energy that does not serve us.

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And there we are.

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So,

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Now let's talk about the scene.

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You know, which one you had a
party dedicated to this scene.

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It's the one where they, the witches
bond over the midnight margaritas.

378
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It's honestly like a, uh, Not just
the most iconic moment in this

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movie, but it's, it's a, a, an
iconic moment in film, like period.

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Uh, it's led to parties.

381
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It's led to practical magic parties.

382
00:18:03,492 --> 00:18:06,712
Like you said, you can't, you can't
be the only one that's ever done it.

383
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Oh, for sure not.

384
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And I honestly, like, don't
condone the idolization of

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alcoholism or anything like that.

386
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I'm just going to put that out there.

387
00:18:15,312 --> 00:18:17,942
But, um, I'm terrible
at making margaritas.

388
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I don't know how to make a margarita.

389
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So I apologize to anybody who
did come to my party because I

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didn't know how to make them.

391
00:18:23,622 --> 00:18:27,352
but I love the like modern day reference
of the blender being the cauldron.

392
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Yeah.

393
00:18:28,322 --> 00:18:28,842
Yeah.

394
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:31,592
Great, great, great point.

395
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Now that's, that's a super cool.

396
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Uh, like you said, modernization
of the, the old black cauldron

397
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that we always picture.

398
00:18:42,152 --> 00:18:44,232
Now,

399
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to be You know, ancient times.

400
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We don't have to have this big
black cauldron over a roaring fire.

401
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We can have, we can have a
modern version of our witchcraft.

402
00:18:52,747 --> 00:18:55,667
And it can look like whatever
intention we infuse it with.

403
00:18:56,127 --> 00:18:59,587
So, let that be known
to all of you seeking

404
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I heard that the potions they
were, they were brewing up with

405
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this, with these margaritas.

406
00:19:07,292 --> 00:19:10,442
I heard that they were actually drinking
alcohol and bad tequila on set and

407
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getting drunk during these takes.

408
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So some of this is like,

409
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Kidman, um, is

410
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yeah,

411
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how the rumors go.

412
00:19:16,177 --> 00:19:19,357
Uh, she brought on some real
tequila and they actually, even,

413
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I think, um, everybody but the
cameramen, camera people, who

414
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I had a, they had all this.

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They had to hold it straight.

416
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I mean, it would have been, it would have

417
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producers, everybody,
Becks, behind the scene.

418
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looked like this if, if, uh, if
the people had been drinking.

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Tilted.

420
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It would have been on tilt.

421
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you imagine?

422
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They're just all, yeah, they
forgot they were filming a movie.

423
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They're just like having
a good time, partying.

424
00:19:42,392 --> 00:19:47,692
Hey, now that's the kind of film
set I would like to be a part of and

425
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not that supernatural stuff going on
where it's clock stopping at midnight.

426
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Did they ever check the
batteries you think?

427
00:19:54,682 --> 00:19:56,772
I don't know.

428
00:19:58,522 --> 00:20:02,312
Yeah, they're like, we forgot to, um,
we forgot to pay the guy that normally

429
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Yeah.

430
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I don't know what happened there.

431
00:20:04,302 --> 00:20:04,672
I don't know.

432
00:20:04,682 --> 00:20:06,152
I'm not sure there, but

433
00:20:06,852 --> 00:20:10,362
Okay, but I do have to say, this
scene always makes me stink.

434
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This and the part where they go to
live, the young girls, Sally and Jilly,

435
00:20:16,987 --> 00:20:21,087
when they first come to live with the
aunts, they're like, we eat chocolate

436
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cake for breakfast, we never brush our
teeth, we never do homework, you know,

437
00:20:25,017 --> 00:20:26,187
and they're kind of like, whatever.

438
00:20:26,997 --> 00:20:29,887
And the midnight margarita scene and that.

439
00:20:30,742 --> 00:20:37,312
Both give me such a sense of relief
because there is a very powerful message

440
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in just that little especially to
women, which is you don't have to behave

441
00:20:46,742 --> 00:20:49,922
and you don't have to like fall
under societal norms, right?

442
00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:53,912
So like this waking up at midnight
just to have midnight margaritas,

443
00:20:54,102 --> 00:20:55,982
it's like there's no rules.

444
00:20:56,682 --> 00:20:59,992
You don't, there's, rules you
think there are, they're pretend.

445
00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:01,762
Like they're somebody else's rules.

446
00:21:02,172 --> 00:21:06,172
We get to live by our own rules, and
that is so freeing to someone like me.

447
00:21:07,782 --> 00:21:08,012
Yeah!

448
00:21:08,012 --> 00:21:09,219
Why not?

449
00:21:09,219 --> 00:21:09,612
Yeah!

450
00:21:09,912 --> 00:21:12,492
that's an incredible
takeaway from that scene.

451
00:21:13,012 --> 00:21:15,232
Uh, it, it, it, it is so true that

452
00:21:17,672 --> 00:21:18,732
somebody else made the rules.

453
00:21:19,132 --> 00:21:21,172
Somebody else made the rules at all times.

454
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Every rule.

455
00:21:23,102 --> 00:21:25,882
And usually the women who are
accused of witchcraft, let's talk

456
00:21:25,882 --> 00:21:29,792
historically, are just women who didn't
really want to live by those rules.

457
00:21:29,802 --> 00:21:32,602
Like, they were women who were
like, Wait, this is not serving me.

458
00:21:32,762 --> 00:21:35,602
What if I make up my own rules and
I live my life based on my rules?

459
00:21:37,607 --> 00:21:40,567
That often got them into
trouble, to be honest, but it's

460
00:21:40,582 --> 00:21:40,972
Yeah.

461
00:21:41,032 --> 00:21:41,552
It did.

462
00:21:42,187 --> 00:21:45,477
so freeing to realize that, like, I
can wake up at midnight, and it might

463
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not be midnight margaritas, but it
can be midnight, um, chocolate bars.

464
00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:49,907
Yeah.

465
00:21:49,952 --> 00:21:50,737
Oh, hell yeah.

466
00:21:51,072 --> 00:21:51,247
you want!

467
00:21:51,247 --> 00:21:51,897
Mm

468
00:21:52,482 --> 00:21:53,132
I love it.

469
00:21:53,172 --> 00:21:56,642
But let me go back to the,
to, to Hollywood and witches.

470
00:21:57,642 --> 00:22:01,882
Just in general, I'm like, everybody
back up here because I might go

471
00:22:01,882 --> 00:22:05,542
off on a rant here about what
Hollywood's done to the witches.

472
00:22:05,542 --> 00:22:08,052
They basically, they made them
out to be tragically romantic

473
00:22:08,052 --> 00:22:09,712
figures doomed to lose in love.

474
00:22:11,242 --> 00:22:13,372
They're trying, they try to find
strength through the sisterhood.

475
00:22:13,402 --> 00:22:15,472
All the movies are basically
the same about witches.

476
00:22:15,882 --> 00:22:20,882
And then Practical Magic,
ultimate homage to this trope.

477
00:22:21,102 --> 00:22:25,242
Uh, Sally, Jilly, they're not
just facing the external demons,

478
00:22:25,242 --> 00:22:26,592
but they got internal ones too.

479
00:22:27,062 --> 00:22:33,112
And it's all this stuff going on, it's
real life, there's romance, bond between

480
00:22:33,112 --> 00:22:34,812
the sisters that takes the center stage.

481
00:22:34,812 --> 00:22:38,112
They laugh, fight, they
did all this on set.

482
00:22:38,592 --> 00:22:42,662
This is really behind the scenes
and on set, it all came across.

483
00:22:43,732 --> 00:22:46,182
And now it's a true sisterhood.

484
00:22:47,307 --> 00:22:47,507
Yes.

485
00:22:47,972 --> 00:22:52,322
Hollywood has always tried to do these
different things with what witchcraft

486
00:22:52,442 --> 00:22:57,202
and witches are and I think this one
says it a little bit different than

487
00:22:57,202 --> 00:22:59,342
what some of these other movies have.

488
00:22:59,622 --> 00:23:00,002
What do you,

489
00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:00,387
hmm.

490
00:23:00,822 --> 00:23:02,962
I gotta, what do you
got to say about that?

491
00:23:05,557 --> 00:23:08,427
Uh, throwback to my awesome
interview with Robin Lively.

492
00:23:08,552 --> 00:23:09,862
Go check that out if you haven't.

493
00:23:09,972 --> 00:23:11,772
Episode three, Robin Lively.

494
00:23:11,772 --> 00:23:13,816
You mentioned the house.

495
00:23:13,816 --> 00:23:16,727
We gotta talk about the house.

496
00:23:17,027 --> 00:23:23,047
you know, I, okay, so this is kind
of, um, like a great connection

497
00:23:23,057 --> 00:23:25,187
to the movie Frozen, right?

498
00:23:26,257 --> 00:23:31,662
here we have like, Disney's
typical princess curse, whatever,

499
00:23:31,702 --> 00:23:33,452
true love will break the curse.

500
00:23:34,272 --> 00:23:38,572
What the movie Frozen did, and I think
I can dare say this movie Practical

501
00:23:38,582 --> 00:23:42,392
Magic did before Frozen, was it
showed that it wasn't the love of a

502
00:23:42,392 --> 00:23:45,942
man, it wasn't a masculine figure or
the romantic love that was going to

503
00:23:45,952 --> 00:23:48,622
break this curse, it was sisterhood.

504
00:23:48,962 --> 00:23:53,582
It was acceptance of, of
them into their society.

505
00:23:53,622 --> 00:24:01,097
Like, my favorite, okay, my favorite
One of my favorite parts of this movie.

506
00:24:01,257 --> 00:24:02,397
I have a lot of favorite parts.

507
00:24:03,896 --> 00:24:09,877
When she activates the phone tree and
gets all the women who have been scared

508
00:24:09,877 --> 00:24:13,987
of them their whole lives and calling
them witches and are like, I don't

509
00:24:13,987 --> 00:24:16,537
know, men die in the Owens family.

510
00:24:16,537 --> 00:24:18,457
I don't know how, but
there's definitely a curse.

511
00:24:18,507 --> 00:24:19,557
And they're kind of scared.

512
00:24:19,867 --> 00:24:22,497
They're the ones throwing rocks
at them when they're kids and

513
00:24:22,582 --> 00:24:24,327
calling them witch, witch, bitch.

514
00:24:25,307 --> 00:24:29,537
And here's Sally and she's
activating the phone tree.

515
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:31,837
Which is like the PTA.

516
00:24:32,007 --> 00:24:33,807
It's like the moms of the town.

517
00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:36,567
And she's like, Hey, so guess what?

518
00:24:36,907 --> 00:24:37,797
I am a witch.

519
00:24:38,037 --> 00:24:39,387
My sister's possessed.

520
00:24:39,507 --> 00:24:42,222
Um, we're really going to need Some help.

521
00:24:42,412 --> 00:24:43,752
Can you bring a broom and come over?

522
00:24:44,872 --> 00:24:45,982
And they do.

523
00:24:46,672 --> 00:24:51,762
They show up with brooms, these women
who don't know anything and are honestly

524
00:24:51,762 --> 00:24:53,502
scared of what they didn't know.

525
00:24:54,262 --> 00:24:59,742
And um, even the one that was kind of the,
the ringleader of the mommy moms, whatever

526
00:24:59,742 --> 00:25:02,052
you want to call them, um, queen bee.

527
00:25:03,012 --> 00:25:05,782
she's like, like, well,
thank you for coming.

528
00:25:05,782 --> 00:25:08,212
And she's like, Oh, um, well,
you know, I've always wanted to

529
00:25:08,212 --> 00:25:09,296
see the inside of your house.

530
00:25:10,532 --> 00:25:13,572
She's secretly, they
wanted to be a part of it.

531
00:25:13,592 --> 00:25:18,192
They didn't want to, you know, they were
just afraid of what they didn't know.

532
00:25:18,639 --> 00:25:22,892
And when they broke the barriers
of that and created a sisterhood

533
00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:27,922
among the women of the, of the town,
that's when the curse actually broke.

534
00:25:28,637 --> 00:25:30,917
know, not from Finding Love.

535
00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:34,597
It wasn't really, you know, Sally
and even her relationship with this

536
00:25:34,647 --> 00:25:39,247
sheriff guy, which was all great
and everything, but it was that,

537
00:25:39,267 --> 00:25:41,207
it was like that sisterhood, right?

538
00:25:42,237 --> 00:25:43,367
Incredible.

539
00:25:46,447 --> 00:25:46,647
Yeah.

540
00:25:46,647 --> 00:25:47,247
Let's talk about the house.

541
00:25:47,862 --> 00:25:54,562
Like, it's a dreamy Victorian
house that we all wish we'd

542
00:25:54,562 --> 00:25:55,652
lived in this house, right?

543
00:25:55,652 --> 00:25:55,862
Like,

544
00:25:56,567 --> 00:25:58,262
The house is a character itself,

545
00:25:58,562 --> 00:25:58,932
is.

546
00:25:58,992 --> 00:25:59,812
It really is.

547
00:26:00,112 --> 00:26:01,352
Yeah.

548
00:26:01,652 --> 00:26:03,182
this thing out somewhere in Washington.

549
00:26:03,432 --> 00:26:04,812
Uh, Washington State.

550
00:26:05,352 --> 00:26:05,932
Um,

551
00:26:08,077 --> 00:26:12,727
It's just a shell of a house from
the outside scenes that they filmed.

552
00:26:13,677 --> 00:26:15,712
And then they did the inside
scenes on the soundstage.

553
00:26:15,977 --> 00:26:16,057
Yeah.

554
00:26:16,807 --> 00:26:21,387
Um, but Barbara Streisand actually,
um, tried to buy the house, she

555
00:26:21,417 --> 00:26:24,627
offered to purchase it and they
were like, um, you know, Babs.

556
00:26:25,887 --> 00:26:26,347
Not real.

557
00:26:30,102 --> 00:26:32,232
That's a true testament
to what the house is.

558
00:26:32,272 --> 00:26:33,832
It really, that's a true testament to it.

559
00:26:33,942 --> 00:26:35,872
If she tried to buy it, cause
she thought it was real.

560
00:26:35,872 --> 00:26:36,822
That's awesome to me.

561
00:26:37,032 --> 00:26:37,472
Um,

562
00:26:37,487 --> 00:26:38,177
mean if I was.

563
00:26:39,287 --> 00:26:43,207
If I had money like Barbara Streisand,
I would be offering to buy it too.

564
00:26:43,457 --> 00:26:46,477
But there was rumor about
them releasing blueprints for

565
00:26:46,477 --> 00:26:48,027
the house a couple years ago.

566
00:26:48,027 --> 00:26:52,457
I remember everybody was really excited
about it because, it became available.

567
00:26:52,457 --> 00:26:57,747
Like, someone had actually constructed
blueprints for house and, um, you

568
00:26:57,747 --> 00:26:59,377
could buy that and build it, I guess.

569
00:26:59,812 --> 00:27:00,272
real,

570
00:27:01,467 --> 00:27:02,177
it'd be amazing.

571
00:27:02,187 --> 00:27:10,737
But the aesthetic of this movie, the
set, is such a um, icon that you see like

572
00:27:10,797 --> 00:27:13,947
videos of people all over the internet
that are like decorating their house

573
00:27:14,137 --> 00:27:16,287
in practical magic aesthetic, right?

574
00:27:16,287 --> 00:27:18,402
Like black stairs and

575
00:27:18,702 --> 00:27:19,052
real.

576
00:27:19,357 --> 00:27:23,277
painted walls and the types of
frames around their pictures,

577
00:27:23,287 --> 00:27:24,157
all that kind of stuff.

578
00:27:24,622 --> 00:27:26,682
And Nate, I'm going to
throw this out there.

579
00:27:26,682 --> 00:27:30,432
Maybe it happens subliminally
cause I just painted my wall

580
00:27:30,432 --> 00:27:31,982
black yesterday for some reason.

581
00:27:33,442 --> 00:27:35,072
Is that, that I could hit?

582
00:27:35,237 --> 00:27:35,787
this movie.

583
00:27:35,787 --> 00:27:37,362
You were like, I just feel this

584
00:27:37,662 --> 00:27:38,202
I did.

585
00:27:38,247 --> 00:27:39,247
need it in my house.

586
00:27:39,952 --> 00:27:42,082
Me and Lindsey, we painted
the wall black yesterday.

587
00:27:42,082 --> 00:27:43,332
Don't know why, just did it.

588
00:27:43,772 --> 00:27:46,792
Yeah, dark walls are really
in right now, design wise.

589
00:27:46,842 --> 00:27:47,122
It's

590
00:27:47,142 --> 00:27:47,442
I'm,

591
00:27:47,462 --> 00:27:48,392
ahead of their time.

592
00:27:48,482 --> 00:27:49,432
I'm a little spooked out.

593
00:27:49,432 --> 00:27:50,672
I think Sandra Bullock got me.

594
00:27:51,812 --> 00:27:55,322
She gets me too!

595
00:27:55,322 --> 00:27:56,122
I love her.

596
00:27:56,452 --> 00:27:57,522
And let's talk about Jimmy.

597
00:27:58,222 --> 00:27:58,772
Yeah.

598
00:27:58,882 --> 00:28:00,362
This guy's a piece of shit, right?

599
00:28:00,362 --> 00:28:00,912
Like he's

600
00:28:01,632 --> 00:28:02,312
mm hmm.

601
00:28:02,422 --> 00:28:05,042
just a, just a, just trash.

602
00:28:05,072 --> 00:28:05,382
Just,

603
00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:10,012
that's about, that's about the
best word you could say for him.

604
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:10,362
But

605
00:28:11,152 --> 00:28:11,552
Yeah.

606
00:28:11,872 --> 00:28:17,922
Nobody's like, um, watching this movie
and calling the Owen sisters the villains

607
00:28:18,222 --> 00:28:18,622
yeah,

608
00:28:19,112 --> 00:28:20,052
for killing this guy.

609
00:28:20,352 --> 00:28:20,732
no,

610
00:28:21,042 --> 00:28:24,522
And she even said, she's like, oh,
you're going to arrest me because there's

611
00:28:24,552 --> 00:28:26,662
one less Jimmy Angelo in the world?

612
00:28:26,692 --> 00:28:26,982
Like,

613
00:28:27,282 --> 00:28:32,332
right now, this guy is Goran Visnjic,

614
00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:39,212
sorry if I pronounced that wrong,
but he's also been out in like, uh,

615
00:28:39,222 --> 00:28:40,962
Hellraiser and stuff like that, I believe.

616
00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:46,087
He, uh, is a producer and, and everything
else, but he, but he got into this

617
00:28:46,087 --> 00:28:47,305
role and I think he played it right.

618
00:28:47,457 --> 00:28:51,697
Like, the fact that I'm sitting here
saying this guy, he's a piece of shit,

619
00:28:52,507 --> 00:28:54,587
played the role, he played it incredible.

620
00:28:55,222 --> 00:28:55,582
Yeah.

621
00:28:55,937 --> 00:28:57,217
Like, that's all you can say for this guy.

622
00:28:57,217 --> 00:28:57,577
So,

623
00:28:59,092 --> 00:28:59,952
Yes.

624
00:29:00,222 --> 00:29:05,722
Um, the music, uh, plays a part
in many scenes in this movie, but

625
00:29:05,722 --> 00:29:07,582
the you were always on my mind

626
00:29:07,957 --> 00:29:08,697
oh man,

627
00:29:08,762 --> 00:29:11,692
then it comes back later when they're
drunk on tequila and they're singing.

628
00:29:12,787 --> 00:29:13,797
what a soundtrack.

629
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:15,022
Oh yeah,

630
00:29:15,182 --> 00:29:18,782
I'm gonna get into that too because
this soundtrack really to me when

631
00:29:18,782 --> 00:29:23,402
I was watching the movie back
It's it's a it's like a a great

632
00:29:23,672 --> 00:29:25,212
time capsule that you open up

633
00:29:25,552 --> 00:29:25,962
yeah,

634
00:29:26,112 --> 00:29:30,782
and get to hear these songs like
you've got The song you just mentioned.

635
00:29:30,782 --> 00:29:31,272
What was that one?

636
00:29:32,452 --> 00:29:33,952
you were always on my mind.

637
00:29:34,252 --> 00:29:35,212
on my mind by

638
00:29:35,512 --> 00:29:37,062
course, the iconic.

639
00:29:38,247 --> 00:29:44,397
kiss from the scene where they, put
the spell on Sally for, for her to

640
00:29:44,397 --> 00:29:46,717
meet her husband and, um, Michael.

641
00:29:47,097 --> 00:29:49,427
And I mean, everybody knows that scene.

642
00:29:49,507 --> 00:29:50,847
Everybody loves that scene.

643
00:29:51,257 --> 00:29:55,227
This kiss and she's running down and they
like barely know each other, but she runs

644
00:29:55,227 --> 00:29:57,237
down the street and leaps into his arms.

645
00:29:57,267 --> 00:29:57,967
Oh my gosh.

646
00:29:58,477 --> 00:30:00,377
A Faith Hill banger.

647
00:30:00,437 --> 00:30:01,147
This kid.

648
00:30:01,457 --> 00:30:03,217
I don't even really listen
to country music, but I know

649
00:30:03,217 --> 00:30:04,377
every word of that damn song.

650
00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:04,897
Like, really.

651
00:30:04,987 --> 00:30:05,267
too.

652
00:30:06,777 --> 00:30:09,307
You even had some Marvin Gaye on there.

653
00:30:09,317 --> 00:30:11,347
You had, who else was on this soundtrack?

654
00:30:11,427 --> 00:30:14,097
Uh, George Jones?

655
00:30:14,367 --> 00:30:14,707
Tammy Wynette?

656
00:30:15,257 --> 00:30:16,147
Some more country music.

657
00:30:16,627 --> 00:30:17,957
Joni Mitchell was on there.

658
00:30:18,257 --> 00:30:18,927
Oh yeah.

659
00:30:19,057 --> 00:30:19,587
Oh yeah.

660
00:30:20,537 --> 00:30:23,417
There's so many names on here that
are, Stevie Nicks, Sheryl Crow,

661
00:30:24,107 --> 00:30:25,167
We asked you next.

662
00:30:25,177 --> 00:30:25,457
Yes.

663
00:30:25,517 --> 00:30:28,537
Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow,
they produced and performed two

664
00:30:28,537 --> 00:30:29,777
different songs on this soundtrack.

665
00:30:30,247 --> 00:30:31,537
It's wild.

666
00:30:31,537 --> 00:30:33,407
Stevie

667
00:30:34,572 --> 00:30:36,142
You can't, I mean, please.

668
00:30:36,142 --> 00:30:42,967
Yeah,

669
00:30:43,267 --> 00:30:43,897
with Coven.

670
00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:48,727
I believe she was in one of the, it was
the second, the second time Coven came

671
00:30:48,727 --> 00:30:50,147
back around with American Horror Story.

672
00:30:50,521 --> 00:30:51,667
I watched that, I loved it.

673
00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:53,497
I loved Stevie Nicks in a witch role.

674
00:30:54,447 --> 00:30:55,357
We should see more of that.

675
00:30:55,397 --> 00:30:57,787
We should get, we should see if
we can get Stevie Nicks out there.

676
00:30:58,147 --> 00:30:58,717
A gig.

677
00:30:59,277 --> 00:31:03,577
Maybe I'll have to get a, uh,
a, uh, agent fee if I can get

678
00:31:03,577 --> 00:31:05,327
her another witch gig out there.

679
00:31:06,287 --> 00:31:07,047
Hit us up Stevie.

680
00:31:07,047 --> 00:31:08,427
Hit us up if you need some work.

681
00:31:11,252 --> 00:31:14,862
I, I, I'm to bet she's not suffering, but,

682
00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:15,557
Yeah, I don't think so.

683
00:31:15,557 --> 00:31:18,437
Hmm.

684
00:31:18,512 --> 00:31:21,442
I know this is kind of like,
uh, taking a little tangent.

685
00:31:21,492 --> 00:31:21,872
Okay.

686
00:31:22,182 --> 00:31:27,922
So the kiss song, it comes on,
I have to talk about the ants.

687
00:31:29,352 --> 00:31:32,552
Alright, so when I first watched
this movie, I was a kid, right?

688
00:31:32,717 --> 00:31:37,832
I was, was a teenager when this
came out, and a young teenager,

689
00:31:38,582 --> 00:31:39,442
if you don't mind me saying.

690
00:31:39,482 --> 00:31:42,462
I was a young teenager when this
came out, and of course I wanted to

691
00:31:42,472 --> 00:31:44,207
be Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman.

692
00:31:44,272 --> 00:31:46,082
I wanted to be them.

693
00:31:47,152 --> 00:31:52,912
you know, the young, hip, I don't
know, just awesome that they were.

694
00:31:53,162 --> 00:31:56,152
Now that I'm a little bit
older, a little bit, little bit.

695
00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:58,147
Not much, but a little bit older.

696
00:31:58,707 --> 00:32:03,347
I identify with the ants so much more
now, and now it would be like my dream

697
00:32:04,107 --> 00:32:10,147
to live as one of the ants in a big old
Victorian house with my sisters, uh,

698
00:32:10,147 --> 00:32:16,277
and nieces, or whatever, and spinning
wool, and doing love spells, and cooking,

699
00:32:16,287 --> 00:32:21,387
and have a greenhouse, and whatever it
is they do with their time, having tea

700
00:32:21,387 --> 00:32:23,357
parties on the lawn with your kitty cats.

701
00:32:24,757 --> 00:32:25,597
It sounds amazing.

702
00:32:25,607 --> 00:32:25,997
I'm in.

703
00:32:26,457 --> 00:32:27,007
I, yeah.

704
00:32:28,022 --> 00:32:31,997
amazing, but by Diane West, right?

705
00:32:32,297 --> 00:32:32,697
Yeah.

706
00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:33,767
Oh yeah.

707
00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:37,552
um, who is it?

708
00:32:37,602 --> 00:32:42,812
Oh, Stalker Gianni, um,
the, the, um, Franny, right?

709
00:32:43,682 --> 00:32:44,322
They are

710
00:32:46,332 --> 00:32:51,262
but Diane West particularly has some
of the best lines in this whole movie.

711
00:32:51,732 --> 00:32:57,342
So when the kiss song starts up
and she turns to the camera, the

712
00:32:57,426 --> 00:33:02,332
camera behind her and she turns her
head and she just says excellent.

713
00:33:03,302 --> 00:33:05,902
That is one of my favorite lines.

714
00:33:06,347 --> 00:33:06,897
I love it.

715
00:33:07,052 --> 00:33:08,612
I quote it all the time.

716
00:33:08,692 --> 00:33:11,852
You would not believe how many times
that, that comes up in my life.

717
00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:15,902
And the other, my favorite line
of hers is when they're leaving

718
00:33:15,902 --> 00:33:18,722
the, um, leaving to go get Jilly.

719
00:33:18,722 --> 00:33:19,402
She's in trouble.

720
00:33:19,412 --> 00:33:21,592
So she's leaving and she's like,
you're going to have to take the

721
00:33:21,592 --> 00:33:24,732
girls, her daughters with them
to the solstice celebration.

722
00:33:25,582 --> 00:33:27,762
like, don't let them dance
naked under the full moon.

723
00:33:28,652 --> 00:33:32,722
And my favorite line that Jett says is.

724
00:33:33,487 --> 00:33:37,097
Oh, you know that nudity is
optional, as you well remember.

725
00:33:37,927 --> 00:33:40,147
That is my favorite line.

726
00:33:40,177 --> 00:33:41,307
I use it all the time.

727
00:33:42,537 --> 00:33:43,177
I loved it too.

728
00:33:43,177 --> 00:33:43,877
It stood out to me.

729
00:33:43,877 --> 00:33:44,777
I laughed at that one.

730
00:33:44,837 --> 00:33:45,637
I thought it was great.

731
00:33:46,237 --> 00:33:46,637
Uh,

732
00:33:48,457 --> 00:33:52,017
So when people say, Oh, you
know, you're going to go dancing

733
00:33:52,017 --> 00:33:53,607
under, naked under the full moon.

734
00:33:53,617 --> 00:33:56,957
I'm like, well, nudity is always
optional as you well remember.

735
00:33:57,487 --> 00:33:58,917
as you well remember.

736
00:34:00,507 --> 00:34:00,747
Yep.

737
00:34:00,777 --> 00:34:04,337
If I grow up to be the ants,
will be pleased as punch.

738
00:34:04,337 --> 00:34:05,677
That would be my dream.

739
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:07,617
You think that changed with age?

740
00:34:08,852 --> 00:34:09,882
As you got wiser,

741
00:34:10,687 --> 00:34:11,477
Yeah, maybe.

742
00:34:11,517 --> 00:34:15,167
And maybe like, you know, when you're
younger, especially, you know, women,

743
00:34:15,177 --> 00:34:19,447
we're taught that like our, our romantic
connection, like finding your prince

744
00:34:19,447 --> 00:34:23,397
or your knight or your, you know, your
person is, is what it's all about.

745
00:34:24,237 --> 00:34:27,197
I think you reach a certain age
where you go, yeah, having love in my

746
00:34:27,197 --> 00:34:30,357
life is, is but it's not everything.

747
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:30,877
Right?

748
00:34:30,877 --> 00:34:36,307
Like there is a whole me, independent.

749
00:34:37,165 --> 00:34:41,547
Of who I am as a wife or as a mother
or a girlfriend or whatever it is,

750
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:43,597
it's like, there's a whole me there.

751
00:34:43,997 --> 00:34:49,487
And I think what the ants represent is
that coming into their age and their

752
00:34:49,487 --> 00:34:52,417
wisdom as like wholly themselves.

753
00:34:53,217 --> 00:34:57,248
these women are not participating
in any social norms like they're

754
00:34:57,277 --> 00:34:59,417
just like, I wear what I want.

755
00:34:59,457 --> 00:35:00,627
I do what I want.

756
00:35:01,242 --> 00:35:02,162
I drink at midnight.

757
00:35:02,817 --> 00:35:03,097
Right.

758
00:35:04,917 --> 00:35:07,427
That becomes kind of a
priority after a while.

759
00:35:07,547 --> 00:35:12,137
You start to be like, actually,
my happiness depends on me, not my

760
00:35:12,137 --> 00:35:14,007
connections to someone else, right?

761
00:35:14,307 --> 00:35:18,462
But that's like, that's a good, just
metaphor to pull out of that for life.

762
00:35:19,112 --> 00:35:21,402
In general, it really is.

763
00:35:22,602 --> 00:35:24,032
What's your final thoughts on this?

764
00:35:24,102 --> 00:35:25,382
You got final thoughts on this?

765
00:35:26,527 --> 00:35:28,367
Um, a couple of witchy things.

766
00:35:29,032 --> 00:35:30,032
people are interested.

767
00:35:30,042 --> 00:35:34,092
So, uh, they're, they're doing the
spell that brings Jimmy back to life.

768
00:35:34,422 --> 00:35:35,072
Resurrection.

769
00:35:35,072 --> 00:35:40,532
And yes, that's, you know, brings
them back as something dark so ants

770
00:35:40,532 --> 00:35:42,132
were warning, like, don't do that.

771
00:35:43,172 --> 00:35:46,877
They realized it was a big mistake,
but I do want to point out, they

772
00:35:46,877 --> 00:35:49,117
do say Hecate make it right.

773
00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:50,717
mentioned Hecate.

774
00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:53,317
So Hecate is a goddess of witchcraft.

775
00:35:53,682 --> 00:35:54,042
Okay.

776
00:35:54,342 --> 00:36:00,537
And, um, so she's well known in kind
of mythology as the, the witch goddess.

777
00:36:02,262 --> 00:36:04,922
is associated with the
forest, the forest animals.

778
00:36:05,392 --> 00:36:10,682
She's one that never has a partner
and does not have children.

779
00:36:10,852 --> 00:36:15,362
So she's not necessarily a mother
figure, unless you count the fact that

780
00:36:15,362 --> 00:36:17,842
she mothers all animals of the forest.

781
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:21,582
And she's kind of a
midwife of the goddesses.

782
00:36:21,582 --> 00:36:23,142
So she's there during childbirth.

783
00:36:24,022 --> 00:36:25,942
associated with childbirth in that way.

784
00:36:26,622 --> 00:36:28,882
And she guards the portal
to the other world.

785
00:36:29,752 --> 00:36:36,972
when they're like, you know, and Invoking
Hecate or, um, they're basically kind

786
00:36:37,057 --> 00:36:43,287
of like invoking that portal to open
his soul back from the underworld or

787
00:36:43,287 --> 00:36:45,397
from the other world to come back.

788
00:36:45,757 --> 00:36:46,937
So this is something cool.

789
00:36:47,677 --> 00:36:50,867
Connects you with the folklore
of what that, where that came

790
00:36:50,867 --> 00:36:52,267
from, why they talk about that.

791
00:36:52,482 --> 00:36:52,872
I love that.

792
00:36:52,872 --> 00:36:54,822
It's like, it's almost like a
little Easter egg there because they

793
00:36:54,822 --> 00:36:56,052
don't give you any of that info.

794
00:36:56,092 --> 00:36:59,142
And I was going to ask you, I
was going to ask you about that

795
00:36:59,142 --> 00:37:00,192
name that they were saying.

796
00:37:00,212 --> 00:37:02,532
And I wondered when I heard it.

797
00:37:02,897 --> 00:37:06,107
If it was real or if it was something
they just added to the script.

798
00:37:06,527 --> 00:37:09,137
So that's, I think that's a great insight.

799
00:37:09,937 --> 00:37:10,157
Hectate?

800
00:37:11,007 --> 00:37:11,267
What's it?

801
00:37:11,287 --> 00:37:11,787
What's the name?

802
00:37:11,787 --> 00:37:13,877
Hecate.

803
00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:18,877
She's, um, her symbol is
often represented as keys.

804
00:37:19,842 --> 00:37:21,937
Like, uh, those old, you know,

805
00:37:22,237 --> 00:37:22,707
I would like to.

806
00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:25,402
keys that you see that are like, yeah.

807
00:37:25,832 --> 00:37:29,552
So when people wear those as
talismans or as symbols, they're

808
00:37:29,582 --> 00:37:31,252
often connecting it with Hekate.

809
00:37:32,082 --> 00:37:36,312
And, um, and then they're,
you know, moving their hands

810
00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:37,972
over his body like this.

811
00:37:38,447 --> 00:37:38,827
Yeah.

812
00:37:39,127 --> 00:37:42,582
That's very much like a
Reiki type of healing.

813
00:37:43,612 --> 00:37:46,942
For those who practice Reiki and
energy work, there's a lot of that.

814
00:37:46,962 --> 00:37:48,117
That's what that looks like.

815
00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:48,757
Ah,

816
00:37:48,882 --> 00:37:51,952
was ever curious what it might look
like to go into a Reiki session,

817
00:37:52,607 --> 00:37:52,927
that's

818
00:37:53,492 --> 00:37:54,207
that's what they're doing.

819
00:37:54,507 --> 00:37:55,317
just watch the scene.

820
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:56,227
Watch that one.

821
00:37:57,632 --> 00:37:59,412
You know, and hopefully you're
not dead while it's happening.

822
00:37:59,547 --> 00:37:59,687
Yeah.

823
00:37:59,687 --> 00:37:59,987
Right.

824
00:38:00,672 --> 00:38:00,842
yeah.

825
00:38:01,202 --> 00:38:02,692
Anyway, some cool little things there.

826
00:38:02,917 --> 00:38:07,517
And then they did talk about when she's
making the potion for the pancake syrup.

827
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,337
banishing spell to get rid of the sheriff.

828
00:38:10,817 --> 00:38:13,177
Julie's talking about the Eye of Newt.

829
00:38:13,512 --> 00:38:19,117
You often hear about Eye of
Newt in a, you know, witch's

830
00:38:19,117 --> 00:38:20,767
spell or a cauldron or whatever.

831
00:38:20,767 --> 00:38:21,592
And it's actually just really fun.

832
00:38:21,625 --> 00:38:27,742
So of recipes and grimoires
from actual witches, which

833
00:38:27,752 --> 00:38:29,282
I actually did just see one.

834
00:38:29,737 --> 00:38:35,172
Um, it was like a 400 year old
actual witch's grimoire I got

835
00:38:35,182 --> 00:38:37,092
to see at a rare book event.

836
00:38:38,222 --> 00:38:39,492
yeah, handwritten.

837
00:38:40,462 --> 00:38:41,582
and it had a curse.

838
00:38:42,317 --> 00:38:46,447
Lined into it, so we were not allowed to
take pictures of it because it was cursed.

839
00:38:46,517 --> 00:38:48,277
So, didn't want that.

840
00:38:49,017 --> 00:38:52,727
um, it actually said on the
grimoire, uh, Book of Recipes.

841
00:38:53,057 --> 00:38:55,877
And they were witches spells.

842
00:38:56,257 --> 00:38:59,087
Um, but when they say Eye of Newt,
they're talking about mustard seed.

843
00:38:59,247 --> 00:39:02,157
So, just a little fun fact for ya.

844
00:39:02,487 --> 00:39:03,287
Let me jump in here.

845
00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:06,067
How often do you make a spell
or a potion or whatever?

846
00:39:06,837 --> 00:39:10,407
I have not dabbled in
making my own spells.

847
00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:12,647
Although I would really like to.

848
00:39:13,847 --> 00:39:16,497
Most of the time I'm just researching
what other people have done and

849
00:39:16,497 --> 00:39:17,997
trying to figure out like, oh.

850
00:39:18,947 --> 00:39:23,017
The thing to remember about making
spells or anything like that is, there

851
00:39:23,077 --> 00:39:26,367
are certain things that have been
handed down generation to generation

852
00:39:26,377 --> 00:39:28,927
for however many hundreds of years.

853
00:39:29,427 --> 00:39:30,462
And you have to remember that.

854
00:39:30,462 --> 00:39:35,692
I believe in some part that this
wouldn't have been widely known

855
00:39:35,702 --> 00:39:37,692
or handed down for no reason,

856
00:39:37,997 --> 00:39:38,297
Yeah.

857
00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:38,927
Yeah.

858
00:39:38,972 --> 00:39:43,152
Like people to say, Eye of Newt, or
you need a green candle for this spell.

859
00:39:43,842 --> 00:39:47,932
There is something to be said about
using what's in the spell because Someone

860
00:39:48,227 --> 00:39:53,637
has tried it, tested it, and it must
have been proven somewhat effective.

861
00:39:53,937 --> 00:39:54,337
Yeah.

862
00:39:54,817 --> 00:39:58,457
And then on the other side of that, making
your own spells is a lot like Sally,

863
00:39:58,497 --> 00:40:02,397
the young Sally, which is just, as long
as you're infusing your intention into

864
00:40:02,397 --> 00:40:04,147
the spell, that's what matters most.

865
00:40:04,157 --> 00:40:07,437
So it can be whatever you've got
lying around the house, whatever

866
00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:11,037
you've got in your yard, whatever
you happen to forage on your next

867
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:13,377
hike, can use that in a spell.

868
00:40:14,147 --> 00:40:14,547
All right.

869
00:40:14,567 --> 00:40:15,087
Good to know.

870
00:40:15,127 --> 00:40:21,187
So you don't have to go get the eye of
new and frog's tongue and monkey blood.

871
00:40:21,512 --> 00:40:25,692
you know, isn't even probably
what it sounds like it was.

872
00:40:26,452 --> 00:40:26,522
don't know.

873
00:40:27,582 --> 00:40:31,362
Frog's tongue might be a plant
that looks like a frog's tongue.

874
00:40:31,652 --> 00:40:33,032
And so they call it that, you know.

875
00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:33,867
I see.

876
00:40:33,957 --> 00:40:34,517
I see.

877
00:40:34,522 --> 00:40:35,582
As scary as you might think.

878
00:40:36,827 --> 00:40:37,617
So tell me more.

879
00:40:37,657 --> 00:40:39,757
You got, you had a couple more
things there on practical magic.

880
00:40:40,642 --> 00:40:41,302
Oh my goodness.

881
00:40:41,462 --> 00:40:42,572
So much.

882
00:40:42,702 --> 00:40:43,822
This movie is amazing.

883
00:40:43,862 --> 00:40:51,387
And I just, uh, I love Okay, so
I wanted to point out the ants.

884
00:40:51,427 --> 00:40:53,187
You see them in several scenes, right?

885
00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:56,847
They're spinning and they have
cabinets in their home full

886
00:40:56,847 --> 00:40:58,727
of wool and things like that.

887
00:40:59,177 --> 00:41:03,467
And I wanted to point out that
a lot of people of witchcraft, a

888
00:41:03,467 --> 00:41:07,137
lot of women accused of witchcraft
in history, were crafts women.

889
00:41:07,577 --> 00:41:07,857
Huh?

890
00:41:07,887 --> 00:41:13,337
were artists, they were, you know,
um, they had a skill of some kind.

891
00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:14,187
Like these women are.

892
00:41:15,822 --> 00:41:19,772
And, um, spinning wool or doing any
kind of spinning work where there's

893
00:41:19,772 --> 00:41:26,372
like the spinning wheel, uh, is a great
way to get into a trance and to do

894
00:41:27,972 --> 00:41:30,592
or kind of like scrying in a mirror.

895
00:41:31,182 --> 00:41:34,047
You know how when you look at
water and the sun is just spinning?

896
00:41:34,307 --> 00:41:38,237
kind of sparkling on the water and
it just creates this kind of effect.

897
00:41:39,217 --> 00:41:43,187
Staring into that for a few minutes
until your eyes kind of gloss over,

898
00:41:43,557 --> 00:41:45,437
that's what scrying feels like.

899
00:41:45,467 --> 00:41:46,597
That's what people are doing.

900
00:41:46,607 --> 00:41:50,807
They're like using that to tap
into a different sense so they

901
00:41:50,807 --> 00:41:53,877
can channel messages of whatever
it is that they're trying to get.

902
00:41:54,257 --> 00:41:54,647
Interesting.

903
00:41:55,617 --> 00:41:57,347
These ants are spinning wool.

904
00:41:57,377 --> 00:41:59,557
They're probably making
money off of their wool.

905
00:41:59,557 --> 00:42:04,367
That's probably like how they make a
living, but they also can do witchcraft

906
00:42:04,437 --> 00:42:05,947
while doing their, their work.

907
00:42:06,107 --> 00:42:06,407
So

908
00:42:06,707 --> 00:42:07,207
Wow.

909
00:42:07,217 --> 00:42:07,677
Okay.

910
00:42:07,977 --> 00:42:08,957
just going to point that out.

911
00:42:09,327 --> 00:42:09,767
I like that.

912
00:42:09,797 --> 00:42:10,637
That's a, yeah,

913
00:42:12,777 --> 00:42:15,017
and that's, that's the
best of what I have.

914
00:42:15,207 --> 00:42:16,487
that's the best of what you have.

915
00:42:16,487 --> 00:42:16,817
All right.

916
00:42:16,817 --> 00:42:20,147
Well, I'll tell you, I loved it.

917
00:42:20,867 --> 00:42:22,402
I haven't seen this movie in a while.

918
00:42:23,337 --> 00:42:26,277
Um, let me think here.

919
00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:28,267
It was, it was fun to
watch the bad guy pay.

920
00:42:30,117 --> 00:42:33,087
Uh, the Margaritas scene.

921
00:42:33,087 --> 00:42:33,572
Iconic.

922
00:42:34,907 --> 00:42:37,827
Actually, that's all I gotta say.

923
00:42:39,067 --> 00:42:39,667
That's all I gotta say.

924
00:42:40,187 --> 00:42:40,907
I mean, it is,

925
00:42:40,957 --> 00:42:41,427
favorite.

926
00:42:41,987 --> 00:42:45,377
I mean, practic, it, you got, you do have
to remember that practical magic is not

927
00:42:45,377 --> 00:42:50,037
just about the casting of the spells, but
it's casting out things that hold us back.

928
00:42:50,577 --> 00:42:53,667
Uh, and embracing the magic within
our own lives, I think is what

929
00:42:54,557 --> 00:42:55,127
Yes,

930
00:42:55,277 --> 00:42:55,967
boils down to.

931
00:42:55,967 --> 00:42:56,687
And that's what I saw.

932
00:42:56,687 --> 00:42:57,437
That's what I saw.

933
00:42:58,487 --> 00:42:59,267
This movie holds up.

934
00:42:59,267 --> 00:43:00,557
It's gonna hold up forever like this.

935
00:43:01,137 --> 00:43:01,772
This is one of those that's.

936
00:43:01,847 --> 00:43:02,447
think so.

937
00:43:02,797 --> 00:43:05,157
Yeah, I think it'll
continue to be a favorite.

938
00:43:05,637 --> 00:43:09,197
And, um, and personally, you know,
even though I love the horror movie

939
00:43:09,197 --> 00:43:12,217
genre, I do, I have props respect.

940
00:43:12,947 --> 00:43:17,187
I, I had to put this movie into
our lineup because, um, for me

941
00:43:17,187 --> 00:43:20,847
personally, it feels like a much
more accurate depiction of what

942
00:43:20,847 --> 00:43:22,827
witchcraft feels like, at least for me.

943
00:43:24,362 --> 00:43:25,222
That's what we're going for.

944
00:43:25,287 --> 00:43:26,297
That's something to be afraid of.

945
00:43:26,317 --> 00:43:29,667
And the town eventually realizes
that they don't have to be afraid

946
00:43:29,667 --> 00:43:32,667
of the Owen sisters, that actually
having them around is pretty helpful.

947
00:43:34,432 --> 00:43:35,512
Let's get to our next movie.

948
00:43:36,367 --> 00:43:36,987
Yes.

949
00:43:37,277 --> 00:43:39,197
And you hadn't seen
this one before, right?

950
00:43:39,902 --> 00:43:44,072
I might've seen like pieces of it,
but just never knew that it came from

951
00:43:44,072 --> 00:43:45,502
this movie, like it might've been.

952
00:43:48,712 --> 00:43:51,422
Long story short, no, I
have not seen this movie.

953
00:43:51,907 --> 00:43:52,897
And I love that.

954
00:43:52,997 --> 00:43:56,267
I love that you hadn't seen
it because just makes me so

955
00:43:56,267 --> 00:43:59,127
excited to be like, here it is!

956
00:43:59,847 --> 00:44:00,927
Watch this great movie!

957
00:44:01,762 --> 00:44:03,552
Oh, for everybody else
out there, buckle up.

958
00:44:04,612 --> 00:44:09,622
We're about to dive in to the
1987 supernatural horror slash

959
00:44:09,622 --> 00:44:11,582
comedy, The Witches of Eastwick.

960
00:44:12,402 --> 00:44:15,972
And George Miller directed it.

961
00:44:16,102 --> 00:44:18,102
I mean, it's based on a book too.

962
00:44:18,122 --> 00:44:19,792
John Updike wrote a book on this.

963
00:44:21,882 --> 00:44:23,522
So you already got some
big names involved.

964
00:44:24,527 --> 00:44:24,817
Yes.

965
00:44:25,612 --> 00:44:30,452
Off the top, I didn't realize that
the rest of this cast, what is

966
00:44:30,452 --> 00:44:31,682
there, like five Oscar winners?

967
00:44:31,692 --> 00:44:32,002
Or at least

968
00:44:32,667 --> 00:44:33,127
Yeah,

969
00:44:33,427 --> 00:44:38,082
nominated Jack Nicholson, Cher,
Susan Sarandon, Michelle Pfeiffer.

970
00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:40,782
Like everybody in this
movie is incredible.

971
00:44:41,677 --> 00:44:41,937
right?

972
00:44:42,577 --> 00:44:46,207
I mean, I was a little bit sad
that we didn't get, we didn't, um,

973
00:44:46,447 --> 00:44:49,597
maneuver our way to get to talk to
Susan Sarandon when she was at FanX,

974
00:44:49,657 --> 00:44:52,857
but, um, we did get to talk to a red
headed witch, so I'm good with it.

975
00:44:52,952 --> 00:44:53,382
Yeah.

976
00:44:53,382 --> 00:44:53,612
Right.

977
00:44:53,627 --> 00:44:53,912
happy.

978
00:44:54,047 --> 00:44:59,897
But, some names that were considered for
this movie, um, like, even in the lineup

979
00:44:59,897 --> 00:45:06,207
it already has was Jane Fonda, Meryl
Streep, Angelica Huston, Goldie Hawn.

980
00:45:06,617 --> 00:45:08,007
So, I mean, could you imagine?

981
00:45:08,472 --> 00:45:09,402
Oh, it's wild.

982
00:45:10,292 --> 00:45:10,922
It's wild.

983
00:45:10,942 --> 00:45:15,482
The people that were involved in
this and, and honestly watching the

984
00:45:15,482 --> 00:45:18,212
movie, like you, you're watching it.

985
00:45:18,222 --> 00:45:18,882
You're like, Oh yeah.

986
00:45:18,932 --> 00:45:21,942
Uh, Cher that, that couldn't
have been cast any better.

987
00:45:21,982 --> 00:45:22,392
Oh yeah.

988
00:45:22,662 --> 00:45:23,252
Michelle Pfeiffer.

989
00:45:23,252 --> 00:45:24,612
Oh, that couldn't have
been cast any better.

990
00:45:24,852 --> 00:45:26,202
Like there's nobody better.

991
00:45:26,202 --> 00:45:27,802
They played the roles perfectly.

992
00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:30,942
Uh, I do know that when
they were originally cast.

993
00:45:31,567 --> 00:45:34,757
I think Cher and Michelle Pfeiffer
had the roles swapped maybe?

994
00:45:35,037 --> 00:45:35,607
Yeah,

995
00:45:35,827 --> 00:45:36,227
Yeah,

996
00:45:36,327 --> 00:45:36,497
I'd

997
00:45:36,527 --> 00:45:36,877
yeah.

998
00:45:36,937 --> 00:45:42,157
that and and I think it was share
that said, No, I want to play Alex I

999
00:45:42,177 --> 00:45:45,877
think we should switch because Yeah,
it ended up working out for the best.

1000
00:45:45,917 --> 00:45:49,167
And I, I mean, I'm sad to
say there was some contention

1001
00:45:49,167 --> 00:45:50,737
about Cher being a part of it.

1002
00:45:51,177 --> 00:45:56,457
Apparently the director was getting
a lot of like, uh, pressure from

1003
00:45:56,457 --> 00:45:58,347
producers when making this movie.

1004
00:45:58,347 --> 00:46:01,367
And so there was all kinds of,
you know, uh, contention and

1005
00:46:01,367 --> 00:46:02,877
he was like, I don't want Cher.

1006
00:46:03,687 --> 00:46:07,982
And, uh, You have to love Cher
and the story that they tell

1007
00:46:07,982 --> 00:46:12,852
because, I mean, she's like,
listen, I've won Academy Awards.

1008
00:46:13,572 --> 00:46:17,462
You can it or leave it, but I'm,
I'm in this movie, you know,

1009
00:46:17,462 --> 00:46:23,602
just like totally playing the,
I know my worth And I love that.

1010
00:46:24,697 --> 00:46:28,517
Yeah, she does that and does
it, does it, uh, does it well.

1011
00:46:28,517 --> 00:46:34,057
And then I've also heard that on set
if she wasn't, if she didn't have

1012
00:46:34,057 --> 00:46:36,887
speaking lines, she has to be released.

1013
00:46:36,887 --> 00:46:38,357
Like she wanted to be out of it.

1014
00:46:38,787 --> 00:46:40,087
She denies that, but.

1015
00:46:41,962 --> 00:46:46,441
So Nicole Kidman and Cher, maybe
a little bit of divas on these, on

1016
00:46:46,441 --> 00:46:49,569
the set of these movies will forgive
them because their performance

1017
00:46:49,869 --> 00:46:50,717
Exactly, exactly.

1018
00:46:50,947 --> 00:46:51,260
So.

1019
00:46:51,577 --> 00:46:52,414
in the end.

1020
00:46:52,414 --> 00:46:52,582
So.

1021
00:46:52,882 --> 00:46:58,232
I heard also on this that Cher and
Michelle, uh, Michelle Pfeiffer,

1022
00:46:58,272 --> 00:46:59,662
they weren't, they didn't get along.

1023
00:46:59,662 --> 00:47:02,262
I believe the two of those
didn't get along at first.

1024
00:47:02,292 --> 00:47:07,262
And it was because of that weird casting.

1025
00:47:07,492 --> 00:47:11,652
And after they finally sat down and
talked to, talked to each other,

1026
00:47:11,652 --> 00:47:12,772
they found out it wasn't them.

1027
00:47:12,772 --> 00:47:16,602
It was a producer that
had kind of messed up.

1028
00:47:17,187 --> 00:47:17,617
Yeah.

1029
00:47:18,332 --> 00:47:19,132
Lots of problems.

1030
00:47:19,132 --> 00:47:23,032
Lots of problems, uh,
according to the internet.

1031
00:47:23,992 --> 00:47:24,122
Yeah.

1032
00:47:24,807 --> 00:47:29,907
well, I appreciate that through all
the trial and obstacles they must

1033
00:47:29,907 --> 00:47:34,387
have had to fight to make this movie
and to get it done, that they did.

1034
00:47:34,467 --> 00:47:36,957
And that it was made
and we get to enjoy it.

1035
00:47:37,137 --> 00:47:39,877
In fact, just about everybody I
talk to when I tell them about the

1036
00:47:39,877 --> 00:47:43,377
Witch Movie Project, they're like,
are you doing Witches of Eastwick?

1037
00:47:43,607 --> 00:47:45,127
And I'm like, of course!

1038
00:47:46,697 --> 00:47:48,067
So it must be a favorite.

1039
00:47:48,407 --> 00:47:51,987
It did really well when it came out, so.

1040
00:47:52,452 --> 00:47:53,442
Let's break down the plot.

1041
00:47:53,742 --> 00:47:54,222
Let's do it.

1042
00:47:54,522 --> 00:47:56,192
Three single ladies in Eastwick.

1043
00:47:56,272 --> 00:47:58,872
Alex, Jane, Suki.

1044
00:47:59,302 --> 00:47:59,482
Mm-Hmm?

1045
00:48:01,372 --> 00:48:03,192
They're feeling pretty down
about their love lives.

1046
00:48:03,192 --> 00:48:06,572
Here we go again with
the love and the witches.

1047
00:48:07,602 --> 00:48:13,212
Until they basically, they do, don't
basically, they conjure up a guy named

1048
00:48:13,222 --> 00:48:15,422
Daryl Van Horn, played by Jack Nicholson.

1049
00:48:16,112 --> 00:48:16,602
Now,

1050
00:48:19,372 --> 00:48:22,082
sleaze, that's the only word
I, that's, that's the top,

1051
00:48:22,152 --> 00:48:23,292
my gosh.

1052
00:48:23,292 --> 00:48:23,802
Yeah.

1053
00:48:24,102 --> 00:48:28,362
but he waltzes into town, takes
over this mansion and seduces

1054
00:48:28,582 --> 00:48:28,942
them.

1055
00:48:30,472 --> 00:48:33,062
all of them, not just one of them,
all of them in different ways.

1056
00:48:33,952 --> 00:48:34,422
Uh,

1057
00:48:35,612 --> 00:48:35,942
Oh,

1058
00:48:36,032 --> 00:48:39,442
it takes a dark turn because they
figured out what, who Daryl really is.

1059
00:48:40,117 --> 00:48:42,867
And gotta take matters
into their own hands.

1060
00:48:42,877 --> 00:48:44,352
That's pretty much the plot of this movie.

1061
00:48:44,652 --> 00:48:49,979
Yeah, yeah, which is interesting
because we watched, um, The Witch,

1062
00:48:49,979 --> 00:48:52,102
or Vitch, on another episode.

1063
00:48:52,382 --> 00:48:56,652
If you haven't listened, go back and
listen to that one, which kind of takes

1064
00:48:56,662 --> 00:49:01,992
the idea of witches, uh, the, the fear
that people had about witches was that

1065
00:49:01,992 --> 00:49:05,697
they were the devil's book, you know,
there was the same kind of plot lines

1066
00:49:05,697 --> 00:49:09,037
happening in all the witch trials,
which were like, you sign the devil's

1067
00:49:09,037 --> 00:49:14,917
book, you, you know, you're one of his,
um, cubbin, you, you know, of that.

1068
00:49:15,237 --> 00:49:16,917
It made it into a horror movie.

1069
00:49:17,397 --> 00:49:18,447
Like, what if this was real?

1070
00:49:18,447 --> 00:49:19,517
What would this look like?

1071
00:49:20,207 --> 00:49:24,517
And it's almost like this movie
took it into a modern age, the same

1072
00:49:24,517 --> 00:49:30,227
idea of like, These three women are
caught up in the witches, in the

1073
00:49:30,227 --> 00:49:35,517
devil's lair, and you know, they
got seduced by the devil, right?

1074
00:49:37,497 --> 00:49:42,427
I wonder if We've talked about
Three Witches and the Devil, um,

1075
00:49:43,617 --> 00:49:47,387
uh, Val Pergishnot over in Germany.

1076
00:49:48,067 --> 00:49:52,627
I wonder if there's any, you know,
resemblance, semblance, whatever,

1077
00:49:52,627 --> 00:49:57,317
symbolism here that matches to
that in this story about Eastwick?

1078
00:49:57,437 --> 00:50:01,397
Do you see any common denominator
there other than the Three Witches?

1079
00:50:01,687 --> 00:50:02,967
Like, that's all I can go on.

1080
00:50:03,437 --> 00:50:04,007
Um,

1081
00:50:04,307 --> 00:50:10,727
well, yeah, it's interesting that The
Vow of Pergusnacht is, is this, um,

1082
00:50:11,457 --> 00:50:17,257
celebration, like, that originated with
getting rid of witches, then has been

1083
00:50:17,637 --> 00:50:23,127
transferred into something where the pagan
community, like, celebrates that time.

1084
00:50:24,317 --> 00:50:30,287
And the plot of this movie kind of, don't
know, kind of coming full circle, almost.

1085
00:50:32,077 --> 00:50:37,017
These women finding their powers
together, you know, through this devil

1086
00:50:37,027 --> 00:50:41,297
character and then being, and then
flipping the whole script into being

1087
00:50:41,307 --> 00:50:46,937
released and independent from the
devil, coming into their own, right?

1088
00:50:47,027 --> 00:50:47,517
hmm.

1089
00:50:48,537 --> 00:50:49,017
Interesting.

1090
00:50:49,987 --> 00:50:51,707
Anyway, yeah,

1091
00:50:52,007 --> 00:50:55,627
in this movie couldn't have been played
by anybody else other than Jack Nicklaus.

1092
00:50:56,237 --> 00:50:56,637
Like, that's

1093
00:50:57,407 --> 00:50:57,997
I'll be honest.

1094
00:50:58,047 --> 00:51:01,997
Okay, so when I was a kid, I used to watch
this movie when it was like on TV, right?

1095
00:51:02,277 --> 00:51:03,897
So it was usually the censored version.

1096
00:51:05,097 --> 00:51:09,667
I did not a hundred percent
understand as a kid what was going on.

1097
00:51:11,362 --> 00:51:16,902
I do remember thinking to myself,
guy's not really attractive physically.

1098
00:51:17,832 --> 00:51:20,922
now as an adult, I'm like, well, he
has a certain suaveness about him.

1099
00:51:20,922 --> 00:51:23,742
I can kind of see the, you
know, the voice and all of that.

1100
00:51:24,232 --> 00:51:29,352
But as a kid, I was like, what
these women see in this guy.

1101
00:51:30,162 --> 00:51:37,562
And then remember being really confused
about who is this guy's girlfriend.

1102
00:51:37,897 --> 00:51:38,227
Hmm,

1103
00:51:38,672 --> 00:51:42,632
I remember asking myself, like,
wait, so all three of them are his

1104
00:51:42,632 --> 00:51:46,002
girlfriend, but they all don't seem
to mind that they're all sharing him?

1105
00:51:46,822 --> 00:51:48,342
so confused as a kid.

1106
00:51:49,092 --> 00:51:52,712
it's so interesting how my, like,
little kid brain and then bringing it

1107
00:51:52,712 --> 00:51:57,642
into my adult self being like, yeah.

1108
00:51:57,997 --> 00:52:01,987
1987. Once again, I have to
bring up the time period, but

1109
00:52:02,347 --> 00:52:04,837
polyamory was not very, still

1110
00:52:05,137 --> 00:52:05,887
Wasn't a thing.

1111
00:52:06,647 --> 00:52:07,397
not very favored.

1112
00:52:07,397 --> 00:52:12,697
Now if you talk to general consensus,
but it's probably a whole lot

1113
00:52:12,697 --> 00:52:16,567
more open to now than it was then.

1114
00:52:17,007 --> 00:52:20,917
So you being confused on that,
you probably weren't the only one.

1115
00:52:21,217 --> 00:52:23,017
, you know, even as a kid,
you weren't the only one.

1116
00:52:23,017 --> 00:52:23,467
That's the

1117
00:52:23,567 --> 00:52:25,727
like, but they're all okay
with it for some reason.

1118
00:52:26,537 --> 00:52:27,247
was, yeah,

1119
00:52:27,547 --> 00:52:27,758
weird part.

1120
00:52:27,867 --> 00:52:28,587
it was eye opening.

1121
00:52:28,587 --> 00:52:29,697
I think it was good for me.

1122
00:52:29,707 --> 00:52:33,897
It was good for me to keep an open mind
as a, as a, you know, kid growing up.

1123
00:52:33,907 --> 00:52:35,117
I was like, oh, okay.

1124
00:52:35,237 --> 00:52:36,347
To each their own, I suppose.

1125
00:52:37,767 --> 00:52:39,317
Like, I mean, what else
are you going to do?

1126
00:52:39,797 --> 00:52:40,087
Yeah.

1127
00:52:41,017 --> 00:52:42,907
So, oh,

1128
00:52:43,082 --> 00:52:46,402
the way that my kid self thought
about Jack Nicholson and, and yeah,

1129
00:52:46,462 --> 00:52:51,502
perfect, perfect for this role as, you
know, which is essentially the devil.

1130
00:52:51,502 --> 00:52:53,632
I mean, I don't think they're trying
to hide the fact that he's supposed

1131
00:52:53,632 --> 00:52:56,222
to play the devil or a devil.

1132
00:52:56,232 --> 00:52:58,672
He even says in like one of
the opening scenes, he's like,

1133
00:52:58,672 --> 00:53:00,102
I'm just a horny little devil.

1134
00:53:00,932 --> 00:53:01,587
And, um,

1135
00:53:01,887 --> 00:53:02,807
the seduction scene.

1136
00:53:02,807 --> 00:53:04,137
I think it's when he's laying on the bed.

1137
00:53:04,137 --> 00:53:05,947
And oh, what a great scene that is.

1138
00:53:06,452 --> 00:53:07,122
so good.

1139
00:53:07,122 --> 00:53:14,312
I have seen clips and recordings of Cher's
speech in that scene, and it is still one

1140
00:53:14,312 --> 00:53:17,152
of my favorite movie speeches of all time.

1141
00:53:17,812 --> 00:53:20,352
The one where she goes off on him.

1142
00:53:20,632 --> 00:53:21,862
You're repulsive.

1143
00:53:22,112 --> 00:53:25,557
You're, you know, she just lays into

1144
00:53:25,857 --> 00:53:26,317
Oh yeah.

1145
00:53:26,442 --> 00:53:31,862
how unattractive and how sleazy he
is, which I love because I was like,

1146
00:53:31,952 --> 00:53:33,102
I'm thinking all the same things.

1147
00:53:33,447 --> 00:53:36,077
I'm like, there's no way that
I would have anything to do

1148
00:53:36,077 --> 00:53:37,087
with this man, if it was me.

1149
00:53:38,347 --> 00:53:44,427
And yet somehow he is so charming
and he gives his speech about

1150
00:53:44,427 --> 00:53:49,027
how you do the dishes, the
dishes will just be dirty again.

1151
00:53:49,467 --> 00:53:51,977
If you clean up, they'll
just be dirty again.

1152
00:53:52,007 --> 00:53:53,827
If you make the beds, they'll
just be slept in again.

1153
00:53:53,827 --> 00:53:56,577
You know, he just gives a
speech where it's like, all that

1154
00:53:56,577 --> 00:53:58,707
stuff you do doesn't matter.

1155
00:53:58,717 --> 00:54:01,647
You might as well just do what
you want and what you need to do.

1156
00:54:01,967 --> 00:54:03,197
Let's talk about that speech.

1157
00:54:03,197 --> 00:54:04,327
That speech about women.

1158
00:54:04,457 --> 00:54:05,447
That's the one you're talking about.

1159
00:54:05,447 --> 00:54:05,697
I think

1160
00:54:05,997 --> 00:54:06,527
Yeah,

1161
00:54:07,387 --> 00:54:10,267
to me that he, he hit peak Nicholson here.

1162
00:54:10,982 --> 00:54:14,627
It's, it's the kind of monologue
really, it'll make it like literally

1163
00:54:14,637 --> 00:54:15,987
it made me say, did he just say that?

1164
00:54:16,207 --> 00:54:16,457
Like.

1165
00:54:16,927 --> 00:54:17,857
That's what it was,

1166
00:54:18,177 --> 00:54:18,547
I know.

1167
00:54:18,697 --> 00:54:18,977
and

1168
00:54:19,907 --> 00:54:22,137
I think he's seducing her with words.

1169
00:54:22,497 --> 00:54:26,647
he is, in all of his sleazy glory, he is.

1170
00:54:27,017 --> 00:54:30,617
Literally, like, he delivers a
monologue, it's both Here's the thing

1171
00:54:30,617 --> 00:54:34,087
with this one, it's both infuriating
and fascinating at the same time.

1172
00:54:34,987 --> 00:54:37,807
Goes on about how men are scared
of powerful women, how they

1173
00:54:37,807 --> 00:54:41,007
call them witches, and burn them
at the stake because you can't

1174
00:54:41,007 --> 00:54:42,347
handle your own insecurities.

1175
00:54:42,577 --> 00:54:44,517
Still going on today,
by the way, that's still

1176
00:54:44,527 --> 00:54:44,867
sure.

1177
00:54:45,002 --> 00:54:48,772
We're doing different ways of burning
witches today, but it's this speech.

1178
00:54:48,772 --> 00:54:49,617
It's a wild ride.

1179
00:54:49,822 --> 00:54:52,822
It makes you basically want to like,
I wanted to throw something at my

1180
00:54:52,892 --> 00:54:55,172
screen, but I wanted to applaud.

1181
00:54:55,172 --> 00:54:56,132
I wanted to clap at the same time.

1182
00:54:57,367 --> 00:54:57,697
I know.

1183
00:54:57,697 --> 00:55:01,247
And he says, marriage, good
for the man, kills the woman.

1184
00:55:01,332 --> 00:55:02,202
It does.

1185
00:55:02,912 --> 00:55:03,422
He does.

1186
00:55:03,422 --> 00:55:09,062
It's, and it's so over the top, but he
is literally in this moment, I think

1187
00:55:09,062 --> 00:55:14,162
he's channeling every devil character he
ever plays previous to this and, and, and

1188
00:55:14,162 --> 00:55:16,952
after this, because it's all right here.

1189
00:55:16,952 --> 00:55:21,542
Like to me, like I said, peak,
peak, Nicholson in the monologue.

1190
00:55:21,602 --> 00:55:22,202
Like it's,

1191
00:55:22,287 --> 00:55:23,107
Fantastic.

1192
00:55:23,112 --> 00:55:30,472
it is, it's a great speech, but at
the same time it's up , you know?

1193
00:55:30,517 --> 00:55:31,107
I know.

1194
00:55:31,207 --> 00:55:31,747
I know.

1195
00:55:31,777 --> 00:55:37,917
And, and yeah, I mean, the reason
it's so enticing and, I mean, you

1196
00:55:37,917 --> 00:55:42,822
can see Cher's character, Alex, and
she's just, she's not really reacting.

1197
00:55:43,122 --> 00:55:43,392
Yeah.

1198
00:55:43,427 --> 00:55:48,952
leaned back and she's just listening
and she's like, Who are you?

1199
00:55:50,382 --> 00:55:54,712
Because it's, it's, it's like all
these things he's saying, not wrong,

1200
00:55:55,802 --> 00:55:56,672
He's mansplaining.

1201
00:55:56,672 --> 00:55:56,762
He's

1202
00:55:57,872 --> 00:56:01,182
he's mansplaining a woman's,
um, experience, right?

1203
00:56:01,607 --> 00:56:04,922
mansplaining to women,
how the world works.

1204
00:56:05,797 --> 00:56:08,497
and simultaneously trying
to get in their pants.

1205
00:56:09,537 --> 00:56:10,007
The what?

1206
00:56:10,737 --> 00:56:11,377
Like, that's what it is.

1207
00:56:11,942 --> 00:56:16,332
Which I have to point out is very
contradictory to then when they decide

1208
00:56:16,362 --> 00:56:21,672
they need to, and by the way, they very
gently Just propose that maybe they all

1209
00:56:21,672 --> 00:56:24,822
take a break from hanging out with each
other when things get a little crazy.

1210
00:56:26,052 --> 00:56:31,802
and we'll talk about like that, but when,
when the, when the three women gently

1211
00:56:31,802 --> 00:56:34,432
suggest, you know, we should take a
break from hanging out with each other.

1212
00:56:34,462 --> 00:56:37,502
Obviously, we have a lot of power
together when we're together,

1213
00:56:38,212 --> 00:56:39,382
things are getting a little crazy.

1214
00:56:39,422 --> 00:56:40,332
Let's just take a break.

1215
00:56:40,342 --> 00:56:42,392
Let's all, you know, not see
each other for a little while.

1216
00:56:43,222 --> 00:56:44,512
Um, reasonable.

1217
00:56:44,972 --> 00:56:45,852
Perfectly reasonable.

1218
00:56:46,542 --> 00:56:54,242
And yet, this is when Daryl Van Horn takes
this tantrum, and he's like, literally,

1219
00:56:54,242 --> 00:56:57,882
when Alex comes to see him and talk to
him, he is literally throwing a tantrum.

1220
00:56:58,062 --> 00:57:02,252
He's ironing, and he's like, I'm
ironing because nobody else will do it!

1221
00:57:03,022 --> 00:57:06,042
And then he's like, what do all men want?

1222
00:57:06,232 --> 00:57:09,232
And he's stomping his
feet all over the floor.

1223
00:57:09,262 --> 00:57:15,912
And he's like, I just want a little
a little a little appreciation.

1224
00:57:16,062 --> 00:57:22,322
And I'm like, is this like opposite of
his speech from the beginning, which is

1225
00:57:22,342 --> 00:57:25,852
that women need to be appreciated and
that women, you know, you're holding

1226
00:57:25,852 --> 00:57:27,352
up the world and blah, blah, blah.

1227
00:57:27,932 --> 00:57:32,222
And I'm like, so now he's just acting
like every other man that these.

1228
00:57:32,572 --> 00:57:36,142
Women have probably experienced in their
lifetime, which is like, wait, what?

1229
00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:44,347
And on that, I think it's,
the movie itself is just a

1230
00:57:44,347 --> 00:57:45,937
critique on those attitudes.

1231
00:57:46,367 --> 00:57:49,967
Like, it's, they wanted him to go
over the top like that, I think.

1232
00:57:50,377 --> 00:57:55,897
And it comes back around to him
in a satisfying way, basically.

1233
00:57:55,967 --> 00:58:00,207
And then you find out, you know, the
real stars of the movie are Cher, Serena,

1234
00:58:00,397 --> 00:58:06,227
Pfeiffer, the witches, And you find
out that they are powerful women and

1235
00:58:06,227 --> 00:58:07,487
they are not to be messed with though.

1236
00:58:08,092 --> 00:58:08,552
Right.

1237
00:58:08,662 --> 00:58:08,762
I

1238
00:58:08,937 --> 00:58:09,407
So.

1239
00:58:09,652 --> 00:58:10,662
have a theory about this.

1240
00:58:10,672 --> 00:58:11,752
You tell me what you think.

1241
00:58:11,787 --> 00:58:12,107
Okay.

1242
00:58:13,052 --> 00:58:16,792
I think because in the beginning
they conjure him, right?

1243
00:58:16,792 --> 00:58:21,582
They say, I want a dark,
um, prince on a dark horse.

1244
00:58:21,582 --> 00:58:22,422
I want to

1245
00:58:23,157 --> 00:58:24,697
They even say not too attractive.

1246
00:58:24,757 --> 00:58:25,607
They even lay on them.

1247
00:58:25,672 --> 00:58:26,262
do attractive,

1248
00:58:26,627 --> 00:58:28,242
They, if you, if you

1249
00:58:28,597 --> 00:58:29,942
all right, maybe

1250
00:58:30,057 --> 00:58:33,377
read that back, they literally
describe Jack Nicholson.

1251
00:58:33,607 --> 00:58:34,477
I thought that was great.

1252
00:58:34,577 --> 00:58:35,057
Go ahead.

1253
00:58:35,057 --> 00:58:35,327
Go ahead.

1254
00:58:35,327 --> 00:58:35,397
Yeah.

1255
00:58:35,522 --> 00:58:36,952
So they conjure him up.

1256
00:58:38,232 --> 00:58:44,182
And then he wants the three of them at his
house hanging out and doing their magic.

1257
00:58:44,412 --> 00:58:46,362
He's fascinated by them.

1258
00:58:46,472 --> 00:58:49,732
He's noticing what they've
got going on, right?

1259
00:58:51,222 --> 00:58:54,162
What if he himself is not that powerful?

1260
00:58:54,912 --> 00:58:56,257
What if he needed them?

1261
00:58:58,727 --> 00:59:04,167
And that's why he showed up and he was
like wanting them to be in his vicinity

1262
00:59:04,167 --> 00:59:09,887
and his, his besties because he, he
probably didn't have enough power or

1263
00:59:09,887 --> 00:59:12,037
whatever it was that he possessed.

1264
00:59:12,047 --> 00:59:13,447
He needed them

1265
00:59:14,117 --> 00:59:15,397
They did conjure him up.

1266
00:59:16,077 --> 00:59:16,457
Yeah.

1267
00:59:17,167 --> 00:59:17,817
He came.

1268
00:59:18,732 --> 00:59:21,312
Makes me wonder because he got
so upset when they were like, we

1269
00:59:21,312 --> 00:59:24,452
need to chill, like, we need to
all separate because it's just a

1270
00:59:24,452 --> 00:59:26,422
little too much for what's going on.

1271
00:59:26,422 --> 00:59:27,432
People are getting hurt.

1272
00:59:27,652 --> 00:59:29,082
We don't want people to get hurt.

1273
00:59:29,572 --> 00:59:30,807
That wasn't our intention.

1274
00:59:31,107 --> 00:59:31,557
Yeah.

1275
00:59:32,002 --> 00:59:35,442
And I feel like he probably couldn't
have done any of the magic or any

1276
00:59:35,442 --> 00:59:37,052
of the power that he possessed.

1277
00:59:37,082 --> 00:59:38,492
He couldn't have done it on his own.

1278
00:59:38,522 --> 00:59:39,232
He needed them.

1279
00:59:39,597 --> 00:59:40,227
That's a different take.

1280
00:59:40,352 --> 00:59:40,722
theory.

1281
00:59:40,987 --> 00:59:41,827
That's a different take.

1282
00:59:41,827 --> 00:59:44,207
Now, now we got to go out
there and watch it again.

1283
00:59:44,457 --> 00:59:50,367
We're gonna, hey, watch the movie
again and keep that idea in mind.

1284
00:59:50,377 --> 00:59:51,187
That theory.

1285
00:59:53,127 --> 00:59:53,797
I like that.

1286
00:59:53,827 --> 00:59:54,827
Now you got me thinking, see?

1287
00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:55,887
Now I'm like, hmm.

1288
00:59:56,387 --> 00:59:58,057
Because we've kind of seen that
in some of the other movies.

1289
00:59:58,057 --> 01:00:00,757
We've seen that in a couple of other
movies that we've talked about,

1290
01:00:00,757 --> 01:00:04,667
where basically somebody was sucking
the power off the other ones, and

1291
01:00:04,667 --> 01:00:06,487
that's how they became who they were.

1292
01:00:07,222 --> 01:00:07,322
yeah.

1293
01:00:07,322 --> 01:00:08,700
Why else do witches need covens?

1294
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:12,874
They need more than, I mean,
let's just look at, um, Disney's

1295
01:00:12,941 --> 01:00:16,701
Agatha All Along series that
they've got going on right now.

1296
01:00:16,701 --> 01:00:21,442
She needed, she needed to get a coven
together to be able to perform as much

1297
01:00:21,452 --> 01:00:23,842
magic as she needed to do the road.

1298
01:00:24,152 --> 01:00:26,062
Anyway, so you need more than one.

1299
01:00:26,092 --> 01:00:28,192
You need, meet a few of you together.

1300
01:00:28,872 --> 01:00:32,387
the movie starts out with these
women talking about, How they're

1301
01:00:32,387 --> 01:00:36,527
really, um, sick of this one guy
they work with, what was his name?

1302
01:00:36,627 --> 01:00:43,897
Walter, who's like, um, a
sexual predator um, icky.

1303
01:00:44,257 --> 01:00:48,057
And, you know, they're talking about like,
he hit on me right in front of his wife.

1304
01:00:48,057 --> 01:00:49,397
His wife was sitting right there.

1305
01:00:49,787 --> 01:00:51,847
Um, each of them has a story about Walter.

1306
01:00:51,847 --> 01:00:53,467
They're like, he tried to hit on me too.

1307
01:00:53,507 --> 01:00:54,817
He tried to do this to me.

1308
01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:55,647
He tried to do that.

1309
01:00:55,667 --> 01:00:57,117
You know, he grabbed me, whatever.

1310
01:00:57,607 --> 01:01:00,557
And, you know, they're basically
talking about how they're

1311
01:01:00,557 --> 01:01:01,637
just kind of sick of that.

1312
01:01:01,707 --> 01:01:05,292
Like, Like what, you know,
what does he think I am?

1313
01:01:06,462 --> 01:01:09,492
So they were the ones that caused
the rainstorm at the very beginning.

1314
01:01:09,512 --> 01:01:11,962
And they're like, wait, just
by thinking about it, all three

1315
01:01:11,962 --> 01:01:13,092
of us thought the same thing.

1316
01:01:13,122 --> 01:01:15,652
And then we caused the rainstorm
to start on his speech.

1317
01:01:15,692 --> 01:01:16,012
Right.

1318
01:01:16,377 --> 01:01:16,717
Yeah.

1319
01:01:17,112 --> 01:01:19,162
they realized they're powerful
right from the very beginning.

1320
01:01:20,537 --> 01:01:25,922
But I don't think they realize, The
gravity that they could, you know, of

1321
01:01:25,922 --> 01:01:29,152
what they could do until later, though.

1322
01:01:29,592 --> 01:01:30,012
Yeah.

1323
01:01:30,262 --> 01:01:30,652
Yeah.

1324
01:01:31,262 --> 01:01:33,182
The scene with, uh, with Felicia,

1325
01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:33,842
Yes.

1326
01:01:34,642 --> 01:01:38,012
Let's get in, let's talk about
Felicia and Clyde because holy shit.

1327
01:01:38,022 --> 01:01:43,132
Like that's, they're not even
like a, like this is in a movie.

1328
01:01:43,132 --> 01:01:44,752
This is like your, your B plot.

1329
01:01:44,762 --> 01:01:48,482
This is just a side plot or
something, but they are just as

1330
01:01:48,482 --> 01:01:50,072
good as anybody else in the movie.

1331
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:51,142
They're front and center to me.

1332
01:01:51,682 --> 01:01:56,802
Uh, you got the, you got the
infamous, Cherry vomiting.

1333
01:01:57,102 --> 01:01:57,862
pit scene.

1334
01:01:58,162 --> 01:01:58,672
got

1335
01:01:59,432 --> 01:01:59,882
Which was

1336
01:01:59,922 --> 01:02:00,082
caught.

1337
01:02:00,382 --> 01:02:01,292
down, by the way.

1338
01:02:01,312 --> 01:02:01,722
Did you

1339
01:02:02,182 --> 01:02:02,682
I did.

1340
01:02:02,982 --> 01:02:03,412
see that?

1341
01:02:04,032 --> 01:02:08,592
If you watch that scene close, you
can tell it's cut down because there's

1342
01:02:08,592 --> 01:02:14,082
a one, there's one shot and you
can see like the entire wall cover.

1343
01:02:14,102 --> 01:02:18,832
Like, you can see way more vomit
on the walls that didn't get shown.

1344
01:02:18,832 --> 01:02:20,092
So you're like, wait, what happened?

1345
01:02:20,732 --> 01:02:23,632
And then yes, I did know that
that was a way longer scene.

1346
01:02:23,632 --> 01:02:28,352
They had a robot or something
that was supposed to do this and

1347
01:02:29,132 --> 01:02:30,052
spent a bunch of money on it.

1348
01:02:30,052 --> 01:02:30,882
And that's all it got.

1349
01:02:31,092 --> 01:02:32,182
That's all it was used for.

1350
01:02:32,182 --> 01:02:34,332
So, um, it

1351
01:02:34,632 --> 01:02:35,532
watching the movie with me.

1352
01:02:35,532 --> 01:02:37,062
He's like, I have to
leave during this scene.

1353
01:02:37,062 --> 01:02:37,832
I can't watch this.

1354
01:02:38,632 --> 01:02:38,952
pretty rough.

1355
01:02:39,572 --> 01:02:40,602
didn't bother me that much.

1356
01:02:40,602 --> 01:02:42,632
I don't know why it didn't,
you know what though?

1357
01:02:42,982 --> 01:02:47,122
You know, what was weird
was I was eating a Yoplait.

1358
01:02:48,422 --> 01:02:50,082
And it was cherry at the same

1359
01:02:50,112 --> 01:02:50,492
way!

1360
01:02:51,622 --> 01:02:55,212
So I had the taste in my
mouth and I was like, huh.

1361
01:02:55,832 --> 01:02:58,382
But I didn't ever get,
I didn't feel sick, so.

1362
01:02:58,897 --> 01:02:59,597
It was all right.

1363
01:02:59,647 --> 01:03:02,737
Well, I mean, right from the very
start after she has her fall down

1364
01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:07,347
the stairs when Daryl first comes
into town and it's all, you know,

1365
01:03:07,397 --> 01:03:09,287
something's really weird about all this.

1366
01:03:09,307 --> 01:03:10,987
Everyone's forgetting his name.

1367
01:03:10,987 --> 01:03:12,907
They can't remember what his name was.

1368
01:03:12,917 --> 01:03:14,937
And then they all remember this at once.

1369
01:03:14,967 --> 01:03:17,252
And, and she has her accident
falls down the stairs.

1370
01:03:17,992 --> 01:03:19,422
And she's never the same again.

1371
01:03:19,732 --> 01:03:22,562
She was already kind of a,
maybe a religious fanatic.

1372
01:03:22,742 --> 01:03:25,242
Um, you can kind of see hints
of that in the beginning, but

1373
01:03:25,242 --> 01:03:27,022
she was very much like, sane.

1374
01:03:27,972 --> 01:03:28,902
Do you think that's why?

1375
01:03:28,952 --> 01:03:30,892
Do you think that's why he affected her?

1376
01:03:30,922 --> 01:03:32,072
Is she a conduit?

1377
01:03:32,092 --> 01:03:36,122
Was she like the complete opposite
and she was like the good?

1378
01:03:36,142 --> 01:03:37,682
And it was like, alright,
I'm gonna get in.

1379
01:03:38,232 --> 01:03:39,912
She's definitely an oracle of some

1380
01:03:40,212 --> 01:03:40,682
There you go.

1381
01:03:40,872 --> 01:03:41,032
Yeah,

1382
01:03:41,032 --> 01:03:48,582
like, once she kind of, um, Yeah, once
she kind of, uh, loses it, her sanity

1383
01:03:48,582 --> 01:03:55,242
a bit, she's talking about in terms of
like, something's not right about him,

1384
01:03:55,252 --> 01:04:00,072
and those women are getting caught up in
him, and there's debauchery happening at

1385
01:04:00,072 --> 01:04:03,962
that house, and she's kind of like, she
reminds me in Bewitched, the neighbor

1386
01:04:03,962 --> 01:04:07,062
that's always like peeking over the,
you know, she's looking, she knows

1387
01:04:07,062 --> 01:04:11,187
something else is going on, She doesn't
know what it is, but she's saying some

1388
01:04:11,187 --> 01:04:13,497
pretty specific things that are accurate.

1389
01:04:14,067 --> 01:04:17,857
And she's even saying those poor
women, like she knows that they're

1390
01:04:17,857 --> 01:04:21,347
not, they don't know that they're
wrapped up in this and that they

1391
01:04:21,777 --> 01:04:23,577
are in danger, they're in trouble.

1392
01:04:24,037 --> 01:04:27,217
And then she even predicts that
they're going to have his sons, that

1393
01:04:27,317 --> 01:04:28,657
he's going to want to procreate.

1394
01:04:28,687 --> 01:04:30,487
And all this.

1395
01:04:31,252 --> 01:04:37,051
Right before her untimely death, but,
um, yeah, she's kind of like an oracle.

1396
01:04:37,242 --> 01:04:41,202
And like, if you look back in ancient
history, there's a lot of, um,

1397
01:04:42,602 --> 01:04:49,452
hints at oracles and seers and, in
Nordic tradition, there's the vulva.

1398
01:04:49,502 --> 01:04:54,902
They are women, uh, who are, you
know, they have a gift of being

1399
01:04:54,902 --> 01:04:56,625
able to see or prophesy things.

1400
01:04:57,382 --> 01:05:03,672
Um, but they, um, They have fits like
they're not, there's some indication

1401
01:05:03,672 --> 01:05:07,482
that they don't appear sane when
they are having their oracle moment

1402
01:05:07,492 --> 01:05:11,262
when they're like, you know, speaking
and prophesying so that's what

1403
01:05:11,262 --> 01:05:16,198
this reminded me of is she's like,
unwell, she's kind of screaming.

1404
01:05:17,882 --> 01:05:20,952
And it's scary, and her husband is like.

1405
01:05:21,022 --> 01:05:23,002
Oh

1406
01:05:23,022 --> 01:05:23,102
do.

1407
01:05:23,102 --> 01:05:23,932
He's drinking again.

1408
01:05:23,932 --> 01:05:25,182
Clyde's drinking again.

1409
01:05:26,142 --> 01:05:27,682
So he's got that going on.

1410
01:05:27,692 --> 01:05:28,702
He doesn't know how to act.

1411
01:05:29,682 --> 01:05:31,952
You got her saying all these things.

1412
01:05:31,962 --> 01:05:35,662
She says she went before she
starts puking up the cherry pits.

1413
01:05:35,752 --> 01:05:41,052
She says he's trying to get inside of me
and she starts doing the squats and you

1414
01:05:41,062 --> 01:05:43,992
can that's real though because he is.

1415
01:05:44,477 --> 01:05:49,707
Daryl is trying to get inside of her,
in her mind, in her whatever, and

1416
01:05:49,822 --> 01:05:50,832
Like a possession.

1417
01:05:51,217 --> 01:05:52,697
he keeps feeding the girls cherries.

1418
01:05:52,697 --> 01:05:53,757
He's like, eat another cherry.

1419
01:05:53,767 --> 01:05:54,577
He knows what's happening.

1420
01:05:54,587 --> 01:05:55,487
He knows what's going on.

1421
01:05:56,057 --> 01:06:00,917
Um, I found that very, I don't
know, it was It was a moment in

1422
01:06:00,917 --> 01:06:04,637
the movie where you're like, Oh,
there is a lot of power going on.

1423
01:06:04,667 --> 01:06:07,827
Like, cause up until then, she's
just kind of, yeah, she fell.

1424
01:06:08,107 --> 01:06:09,267
She could have fallen on her own.

1425
01:06:09,507 --> 01:06:11,257
Uh, she, you know, some
other stuff happened.

1426
01:06:11,627 --> 01:06:12,647
She didn't eat any cherries.

1427
01:06:13,177 --> 01:06:13,497
You know,

1428
01:06:14,282 --> 01:06:16,362
And she's just throwing up cherry pits.

1429
01:06:17,392 --> 01:06:18,632
Oh man.

1430
01:06:19,322 --> 01:06:19,727
Yeah.

1431
01:06:20,027 --> 01:06:24,817
they said that, that, uh, robot was a
real, real scene stiller on the set,

1432
01:06:25,722 --> 01:06:26,042
know.

1433
01:06:26,372 --> 01:06:29,632
It was very, like, I have to say for
the time period that this was filmed and

1434
01:06:29,632 --> 01:06:31,562
everything else, it was very realistic.

1435
01:06:31,562 --> 01:06:36,222
And I remember, um, yeah, like a physical
reaction watching it when I was a kid.

1436
01:06:36,402 --> 01:06:39,652
I remember thinking, Oh, this is horrible.

1437
01:06:39,682 --> 01:06:39,922
Like.

1438
01:06:40,272 --> 01:06:43,702
I think I have a really visceral
fear of throwing up anyway.

1439
01:06:43,812 --> 01:06:47,952
Like, I'm the kind of person who, when I
do get sick, I pretty much hold back from

1440
01:06:47,952 --> 01:06:50,172
throwing up for as long as I possibly can.

1441
01:06:50,902 --> 01:06:52,362
maybe there's something to that.

1442
01:06:52,832 --> 01:06:55,112
My own reaction to it is like, no!

1443
01:06:55,997 --> 01:06:56,427
right?

1444
01:06:56,987 --> 01:06:58,747
Let's talk about the town they're in.

1445
01:06:59,212 --> 01:06:59,592
Yeah,

1446
01:07:00,427 --> 01:07:00,607
Eastwick.

1447
01:07:00,712 --> 01:07:06,082
pretty stereotypical, like,
New England type of feel.

1448
01:07:07,092 --> 01:07:08,337
Much like in Practical Magic,

1449
01:07:08,637 --> 01:07:08,987
Yeah.

1450
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:13,087
They were gonna film this thing in, in
Little Compton, Rhode Island is where

1451
01:07:13,087 --> 01:07:18,687
they originally had planned, but then
I think they found out that Wow, their

1452
01:07:18,687 --> 01:07:22,877
movie, their, their town and their
church was going to be used for witches,

1453
01:07:22,887 --> 01:07:24,657
like a witch movie and they said nah.

1454
01:07:25,267 --> 01:07:29,977
So imagine the uproar
when they found that out.

1455
01:07:30,257 --> 01:07:33,727
I mean, honestly, it's like inviting
Dracula to a garlic festival.

1456
01:07:34,047 --> 01:07:35,127
Like, that's what that would be.

1457
01:07:36,417 --> 01:07:37,177
That's what it would be.

1458
01:07:38,357 --> 01:07:39,087
So what happened?

1459
01:07:39,087 --> 01:07:40,677
They moved to Cohasset, Massachusetts.

1460
01:07:41,682 --> 01:07:42,022
yes.

1461
01:07:42,837 --> 01:07:47,397
Were the locals there, they were way
more chill and they actually ended up

1462
01:07:47,407 --> 01:07:52,937
being extras and on set extras in the
movie and then behind the scenes too.

1463
01:07:52,937 --> 01:07:58,097
So, I mean, who wouldn't want to
have all that fake vomit on there?

1464
01:07:58,527 --> 01:08:00,817
I wonder who volunteered to do
that for him or clean it up?

1465
01:08:01,347 --> 01:08:02,037
Uh, it

1466
01:08:03,232 --> 01:08:06,622
Yeah, because it's not just Felicia,
it was, uh, Daryl at the end.

1467
01:08:06,717 --> 01:08:07,097
does.

1468
01:08:07,212 --> 01:08:08,452
the same trick on him.

1469
01:08:09,087 --> 01:08:10,677
Yeah, but

1470
01:08:10,742 --> 01:08:15,072
why, but I have, uh, flashes of,
um, Danny DeVito in that scene.

1471
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:16,622
Everything

1472
01:08:16,767 --> 01:08:17,247
there

1473
01:08:17,332 --> 01:08:19,412
DeVito is in, he just, like, gross, right?

1474
01:08:19,432 --> 01:08:24,472
Like, Really disgusting scenes he was
Penguin and Batman and he was like eating

1475
01:08:24,472 --> 01:08:28,717
a fish or like every scene he's done
and um, always sunny in Philadelphia.

1476
01:08:29,017 --> 01:08:29,127
you go.

1477
01:08:29,257 --> 01:08:29,577
Oh,

1478
01:08:29,582 --> 01:08:33,192
like a little bit like drool
coming down his face or something

1479
01:08:33,202 --> 01:08:36,212
and um, Jack Nicholson in that
scene just reminded me of that.

1480
01:08:36,212 --> 01:08:36,842
I

1481
01:08:36,937 --> 01:08:37,617
that's funny.

1482
01:08:37,627 --> 01:08:42,902
Did you, speaking of Batman, Not
long after this movie, Jack Nicholson

1483
01:08:43,192 --> 01:08:44,662
comes into the role of the Joker.

1484
01:08:45,602 --> 01:08:48,092
There's a little, there's a little
Easter egg in this movie though.

1485
01:08:48,672 --> 01:08:51,892
There's a, there's a shot of
a joker behind Jack Nicholson

1486
01:08:51,892 --> 01:08:52,552
in one of the scenes.

1487
01:08:52,552 --> 01:08:53,662
Yeah, yeah.

1488
01:08:53,662 --> 01:08:54,502
Go back and look for that.

1489
01:08:54,512 --> 01:08:54,962
that.

1490
01:08:55,142 --> 01:08:55,652
I did.

1491
01:08:55,982 --> 01:08:59,192
And, and Batman would've come
out about a year after this.

1492
01:08:59,192 --> 01:09:02,362
I guess well give or take year or two.

1493
01:09:02,752 --> 01:09:03,892
Uh, for the original.

1494
01:09:04,272 --> 01:09:05,922
So I did notice that little Easter egg.

1495
01:09:05,922 --> 01:09:06,582
Maybe that's just me.

1496
01:09:06,972 --> 01:09:08,992
And then you've got the connection
with Michelle Pfeiffer being Catwoman.

1497
01:09:10,617 --> 01:09:11,337
Same movie, wasn't it?

1498
01:09:11,637 --> 01:09:13,422
Every Catwoman, um, she was in

1499
01:09:13,837 --> 01:09:14,267
Second one.

1500
01:09:14,567 --> 01:09:14,682
one.

1501
01:09:14,822 --> 01:09:15,882
Yeah, he was in

1502
01:09:15,897 --> 01:09:16,347
That's right.

1503
01:09:16,912 --> 01:09:22,232
So, every Catwoman that's ever played
Catwoman since Michelle Pfeiffer has

1504
01:09:22,232 --> 01:09:24,802
to live up to her, in my opinion.

1505
01:09:25,787 --> 01:09:26,107
Oh, Halle

1506
01:09:26,407 --> 01:09:27,842
like Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.

1507
01:09:28,117 --> 01:09:28,342
Her,

1508
01:09:28,417 --> 01:09:28,642
Berry.

1509
01:09:28,907 --> 01:09:29,507
Halle Berry.

1510
01:09:29,882 --> 01:09:32,272
and then her look at the
camera and saying meow.

1511
01:09:32,592 --> 01:09:34,472
I, I, I'll never live that down.

1512
01:09:34,472 --> 01:09:35,452
That's my favorite.

1513
01:09:35,627 --> 01:09:36,807
Halle Berry's up there for me.

1514
01:09:36,817 --> 01:09:37,827
Halle Berry and Michelle.

1515
01:09:38,317 --> 01:09:42,507
Yeah, that's the two, that's
your two queens of, yeah,

1516
01:09:42,507 --> 01:09:43,157
digress.

1517
01:09:43,297 --> 01:09:46,697
Again, just my, uh, girl crushes.

1518
01:09:46,997 --> 01:09:47,337
right?

1519
01:09:47,337 --> 01:09:47,917
What else you got?

1520
01:09:47,957 --> 01:09:49,597
What else you want to
say about this movie?

1521
01:09:49,597 --> 01:09:52,557
I got a lot I could say, but we
better not go too long because

1522
01:09:53,117 --> 01:09:53,617
Yeah.

1523
01:09:53,697 --> 01:09:54,097
Yeah.

1524
01:09:54,147 --> 01:09:56,507
Oh my gosh, both of these movies
together, there's just so much.

1525
01:09:56,557 --> 01:09:59,627
And, um, uh, so I

1526
01:09:59,927 --> 01:10:02,537
these two, I will say
these two movies to me.

1527
01:10:02,987 --> 01:10:07,647
I'm glad they got added to
our project because they are

1528
01:10:07,647 --> 01:10:10,507
quintessential movies for witch movies.

1529
01:10:10,737 --> 01:10:14,107
Like, these two, everything
else is after this.

1530
01:10:14,567 --> 01:10:16,917
Like, really, like, go ahead.

1531
01:10:16,917 --> 01:10:17,977
I didn't mean to cut you off there.

1532
01:10:18,387 --> 01:10:19,007
oh, you're okay.

1533
01:10:19,007 --> 01:10:19,277
Yeah.

1534
01:10:19,297 --> 01:10:22,367
I, well, I was going to like
wrap up kind of the theme here

1535
01:10:22,387 --> 01:10:25,787
in the way that I feel about,

1536
01:10:27,967 --> 01:10:31,077
um, kind of the theme of this
movie for the three women.

1537
01:10:32,042 --> 01:10:34,402
It's like liberation, right?

1538
01:10:34,452 --> 01:10:39,062
I mean, Daryl Van Horm, so he sort
of seduces them with the idea of

1539
01:10:39,302 --> 01:10:41,352
let go of your inhibitions, right?

1540
01:10:41,412 --> 01:10:46,182
I mean, you see that, especially in the
scene with Jane and the, um, the cello.

1541
01:10:46,597 --> 01:10:46,957
Yeah.

1542
01:10:47,307 --> 01:10:50,557
Extremely uptight, extremely reserved.

1543
01:10:51,417 --> 01:10:52,497
a nervous wreck.

1544
01:10:52,517 --> 01:10:58,007
You just see how very,
um, timid she is and,

1545
01:10:58,727 --> 01:10:59,067
Tight.

1546
01:10:59,467 --> 01:11:00,177
and tight.

1547
01:11:00,177 --> 01:11:04,827
Yeah, and honestly, a reflection
of women in general, and how we're

1548
01:11:04,827 --> 01:11:09,267
raised from little girls to be
the right kind of woman, right?

1549
01:11:09,417 --> 01:11:13,532
We're raised to be like, is
what men want as their wives.

1550
01:11:13,542 --> 01:11:16,082
This is what a well
behaved woman looks like.

1551
01:11:16,082 --> 01:11:18,002
This is what a good
Christian woman looks like.

1552
01:11:18,027 --> 01:11:22,272
You know, all of the ways that we're
brought up to live inside of certain

1553
01:11:22,272 --> 01:11:23,972
boundaries that are acceptable.

1554
01:11:24,342 --> 01:11:29,512
Which are, if anyone watched the
Barbie movie, you can say impossible

1555
01:11:29,512 --> 01:11:31,182
standards to live up to, right?

1556
01:11:32,042 --> 01:11:33,562
And you see that in this scene with Jane.

1557
01:11:33,562 --> 01:11:39,502
So she's playing the cello and he's
the one that kind of her from that.

1558
01:11:39,987 --> 01:11:40,547
What a scene.

1559
01:11:41,302 --> 01:11:46,152
her sexual energy and, you know,
liberating her from, from her tightness

1560
01:11:46,202 --> 01:11:50,075
into, like, with passion, be yourself.

1561
01:11:50,752 --> 01:11:54,642
Of course, the reaction from the town,
again, is pretty, um, stereotypical,

1562
01:11:54,642 --> 01:11:56,072
is that they're all calling her a slut.

1563
01:11:56,447 --> 01:11:56,867
Yeah.

1564
01:11:57,262 --> 01:12:00,632
The point when she's at the grocery
store and she's just over there like,

1565
01:12:00,922 --> 01:12:04,802
she's eating chocolate and pickles
out of a jar and she's like, oh that

1566
01:12:04,802 --> 01:12:06,062
chocolate's the best, I love that.

1567
01:12:06,392 --> 01:12:12,122
And she's wearing whatever she feels good
in and she's just being holy herself and

1568
01:12:12,122 --> 01:12:16,132
then, you know, the women in the village,
in the town are like, slut, you know.

1569
01:12:16,477 --> 01:12:17,717
And she's looking at the newspaper.

1570
01:12:17,927 --> 01:12:19,577
Like, there's the newspaper and all.

1571
01:12:19,607 --> 01:12:20,227
Oh, yeah.

1572
01:12:20,247 --> 01:12:20,547
Just,

1573
01:12:20,632 --> 01:12:22,452
all the rumors of what's
going on at that house.

1574
01:12:22,452 --> 01:12:26,012
And she's realizing like, Oh, there
are like consequences for living

1575
01:12:26,012 --> 01:12:28,292
my life way that I want to live it.

1576
01:12:29,282 --> 01:12:36,222
But what they truly get to realize
is that they are not beholden to

1577
01:12:36,222 --> 01:12:39,612
this even masculine authority.

1578
01:12:40,092 --> 01:12:41,907
Which comes in the form of Daryl Van Horn.

1579
01:12:42,102 --> 01:12:45,692
Like, they're liberating themselves
from society's expectations, and

1580
01:12:45,692 --> 01:12:48,972
then eventually they have to liberate
themselves from his expectations.

1581
01:12:49,772 --> 01:12:51,632
if he's the one that
liberated them, right?

1582
01:12:51,632 --> 01:12:52,202
It's like,

1583
01:12:54,652 --> 01:12:59,912
Yeah, they're, uh, uh, he's
the master of unmastered women,

1584
01:13:00,267 --> 01:13:00,607
yeah.

1585
01:13:00,612 --> 01:13:00,752
quote

1586
01:13:01,297 --> 01:13:01,627
Yeah.

1587
01:13:01,722 --> 01:13:02,322
am using.

1588
01:13:02,622 --> 01:13:06,052
So I was reading In Defense of Witches
during the time that I was, you know,

1589
01:13:06,052 --> 01:13:13,462
getting ready to review this movie,
a book by Monet, Chalet, Chalet.

1590
01:13:13,847 --> 01:13:14,227
Okay.

1591
01:13:15,032 --> 01:13:18,632
So In Defense of Witches is, you know,
basically a book about, you know, the

1592
01:13:18,717 --> 01:13:22,272
ramifications of witches throughout
history in our socioeconomic world.

1593
01:13:22,682 --> 01:13:25,702
And actually started
referencing this movie,

1594
01:13:26,002 --> 01:13:26,382
Really?

1595
01:13:26,682 --> 01:13:32,222
like, okay, so this is what she says in
this movie, in this book, she's saying,

1596
01:13:32,602 --> 01:13:37,772
what if instead of saying the devil, we
replace the word devil with independence.

1597
01:13:39,152 --> 01:13:40,032
Hmm.

1598
01:13:40,332 --> 01:13:44,792
every witch trial that's ever gone
on where women are like, accused of

1599
01:13:44,932 --> 01:13:49,092
signing the devil's book and being, you
know, having the devil be their master.

1600
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,232
What if the devil is just
their own independence.

1601
01:13:53,492 --> 01:13:53,872
I love it.

1602
01:13:54,502 --> 01:13:58,802
Now, replace that in every story,
including this one, these three women,

1603
01:13:58,852 --> 01:14:03,042
and say, at the end of this movie, when
they finally get to use their powers

1604
01:14:03,082 --> 01:14:08,272
to liberate themselves completely
from his power and his their master,

1605
01:14:08,622 --> 01:14:10,162
that's when they're like really free.

1606
01:14:11,112 --> 01:14:11,442
I love that.

1607
01:14:11,462 --> 01:14:13,732
It's like, but they had to
come together because they got

1608
01:14:13,732 --> 01:14:16,202
seduced separately, basically.

1609
01:14:16,202 --> 01:14:19,882
And then as they, when they come
together is when they became powerful and

1610
01:14:20,872 --> 01:14:21,112
Yep.

1611
01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:24,182
And they were able to come over,
overcome their jealousies or their

1612
01:14:24,572 --> 01:14:28,032
egos or, you know, what they were
looking for each of them and say,

1613
01:14:28,682 --> 01:14:31,032
we can actually take back our power.

1614
01:14:31,212 --> 01:14:32,892
Like we're the ones who have the power.

1615
01:14:33,382 --> 01:14:37,092
That's where my theory comes in,
where it's not him, it's them.

1616
01:14:37,852 --> 01:14:38,942
He needed them.

1617
01:14:39,362 --> 01:14:40,172
seeing it more clear.

1618
01:14:40,172 --> 01:14:41,042
Now he did.

1619
01:14:41,562 --> 01:14:41,992
Yeah.

1620
01:14:42,292 --> 01:14:43,142
I love this movie.

1621
01:14:44,022 --> 01:14:47,002
Final, my final thought on this
movie is I'm going to have to watch

1622
01:14:47,002 --> 01:14:50,792
it again, especially after you just
gave me all that theories and stuff.

1623
01:14:50,792 --> 01:14:53,582
I'm like, not that I wasn't
already, because like I said,

1624
01:14:53,582 --> 01:14:55,072
man, with the cast like this.

1625
01:14:56,102 --> 01:14:58,962
I'm surprised this one flew
under my radar this long, really.

1626
01:14:59,452 --> 01:15:00,022
Um,

1627
01:15:00,322 --> 01:15:00,772
Yeah.

1628
01:15:01,092 --> 01:15:01,762
it was incredible.

1629
01:15:01,842 --> 01:15:02,282
I really do.

1630
01:15:02,282 --> 01:15:03,237
I like this movie.

1631
01:15:03,237 --> 01:15:05,602
This will be a Halloween
tradition for me every year.

1632
01:15:05,602 --> 01:15:11,522
I'll put this into my repertoire of movies
and I'll have to keep watching this.

1633
01:15:11,542 --> 01:15:12,312
Cause I enjoyed it.

1634
01:15:12,402 --> 01:15:13,192
I thought it was great.

1635
01:15:13,632 --> 01:15:15,917
Um, It's all over the top.

1636
01:15:15,967 --> 01:15:19,027
Every piece, every bit of it was
over the top in the best way though.

1637
01:15:19,407 --> 01:15:19,807
So

1638
01:15:22,292 --> 01:15:28,582
So, audience just needs to decide,
because if my pick, we even started any

1639
01:15:28,582 --> 01:15:33,802
of these movies, if I was to pick our
movie for the final, movie screening

1640
01:15:33,812 --> 01:15:36,582
event, it would be Practical Magic.

1641
01:15:38,132 --> 01:15:40,162
So I guess we just have to

1642
01:15:40,217 --> 01:15:40,237
you

1643
01:15:40,302 --> 01:15:40,537
and see.

1644
01:15:40,662 --> 01:15:43,632
The audience needs to decide of these
movies, which is their favorite.

1645
01:15:43,977 --> 01:15:49,647
got to vote, but the event is
October 26th, Saturday at Novel

1646
01:15:49,687 --> 01:15:51,697
Daybreak by Crescent Communities.

1647
01:15:52,757 --> 01:15:54,037
I can't wait for this event.

1648
01:15:54,037 --> 01:15:55,577
You can get your tickets
out there right now.

1649
01:15:55,577 --> 01:15:57,457
You can find the event page.

1650
01:15:57,567 --> 01:15:58,217
It's on Facebook.

1651
01:15:58,997 --> 01:16:04,887
Uh, we got Land of a Thousand Hills
donating prizes for our costume contest.

1652
01:16:04,897 --> 01:16:05,517
I can't wait.

1653
01:16:05,997 --> 01:16:06,647
I can't wait for that.

1654
01:16:06,647 --> 01:16:08,287
You got yours already?

1655
01:16:08,337 --> 01:16:09,167
I don't have mine yet.

1656
01:16:09,802 --> 01:16:10,112
Yep.

1657
01:16:10,192 --> 01:16:12,302
I went down to Spark at Trolley Square.

1658
01:16:12,302 --> 01:16:14,422
They've got some amazing outfits there.

1659
01:16:14,482 --> 01:16:17,542
Um, they, they have got our
flyer up to sell tickets.

1660
01:16:17,542 --> 01:16:21,452
So if you're looking for, uh, the
tickets, you can look at the flyer

1661
01:16:21,452 --> 01:16:22,592
that I'm gonna have up around town.

1662
01:16:23,422 --> 01:16:25,152
Spirit Halloween was there yesterday.

1663
01:16:25,152 --> 01:16:29,372
Picked up some, you know, they're open
for the, for the time being the district.

1664
01:16:29,422 --> 01:16:30,762
So, uh, we're.

1665
01:16:30,987 --> 01:16:32,657
Yeah, getting our costumes ready.

1666
01:16:32,697 --> 01:16:36,907
And I'm like, Hey, you guys need to
encourage people to buy up their costumes

1667
01:16:36,907 --> 01:16:40,307
to get ready for this contest so they
can win a gift card to the coffee shop.

1668
01:16:40,387 --> 01:16:40,587
Land

1669
01:16:40,607 --> 01:16:42,557
I love that.

1670
01:16:42,737 --> 01:16:45,577
Let's go ahead and, uh, wrap this
thing up and get on out of here.

1671
01:16:46,397 --> 01:16:46,657
Yep.

1672
01:16:46,727 --> 01:16:47,467
Let's thank our sponsors.

1673
01:16:47,517 --> 01:16:52,927
about spells rituals and creating
witchcraft, you can follow me on

1674
01:16:52,927 --> 01:16:54,447
my podcast, Practically Magic.

1675
01:16:55,617 --> 01:16:57,047
Stole that name from the movie.

1676
01:16:57,077 --> 01:16:57,467
Stole it.

1677
01:16:58,347 --> 01:16:58,847
I'm kidding.

1678
01:16:59,247 --> 01:17:00,237
It's an homage.

1679
01:17:00,237 --> 01:17:01,227
Come on, guys out there.

1680
01:17:01,597 --> 01:17:03,667
And Magic's even spelt with a K. Come on.

1681
01:17:03,967 --> 01:17:04,287
Yeah.

1682
01:17:04,477 --> 01:17:04,707
spelled right.

1683
01:17:04,707 --> 01:17:05,907
It's not even spelt the same.

1684
01:17:07,177 --> 01:17:08,387
Let me thank our sponsors.

1685
01:17:08,547 --> 01:17:10,255
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1686
01:17:10,337 --> 01:17:11,197
Gotta thank them.

1687
01:17:11,807 --> 01:17:13,627
Proud sponsors of this entire project.

1688
01:17:14,407 --> 01:17:16,367
Also, we gotta thank Live Cake Parties.

1689
01:17:17,432 --> 01:17:18,622
Uh, who else we got, Courtney?

1690
01:17:20,607 --> 01:17:22,647
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Studio in South Jordan.

1691
01:17:22,667 --> 01:17:26,527
Thank you for supporting our
project and allowing us to

1692
01:17:26,567 --> 01:17:28,387
basically watch movies for fun.