Season 2 Wrap-Up: Magic, Tattoos, and Transformative Healing

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So Hi.

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Welcome to Practically Magic.

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This is our season two wrap up episode.

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Uh, I decided as tradition dictates, we are gonna have Just Blane as our guest slash producer slash ride the Wave media slash expert on keep going, keep going, is the, yeah, this is the man of the, the, the behind the curtain, the wizard.

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I really do appreciate you asking me to be on, I saw the message come through and I was like, what? Courtney wants me on her show.

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Yes.

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But I do have to make sure you, you did pay my agent the, uh, appearance fee.

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Right.

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You, you already took Oh yeah.

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We're all good.

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We're all good.

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Okay.

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Just making sure.

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We might be paying in healing sessions, but there we go.

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Those are worth a lot.

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A lot.

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they are, they are.

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ready for this? ready for this.

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So I, I mean, I know I watched this show, so I'm ready for the tarot card pool.

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That's what we're doing first, right? We gotta get to that.

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We got the card pull.

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Uh, I picked a deck specifically that I thought, okay, what is, what is Blane's vibe? What's his energy? What do we need here? It's actually an Oracle deck, but I'm going with the o the elemental Oracle deck.

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This was the first Oracle deck I ever got.

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Someone gifted it to me, actually.

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Wow.

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Um, so it's not tarot, but.

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It's pretty powerful.

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We have the card when you'll love this.

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This has like silvery foil on the Oh, alright.

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Listeners will have to watch YouTube if you wanna see that.

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'cause it's pretty, it's pretty incredible I'm, foil.

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I'm shiny four and I'm, wait a minute.

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Are you pulling out a deck of Pokemon cards, it sounds like, is that what you got? Oh, don't get me started.

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My 11-year-old hasn't stopped talking about Pokemon No, I.

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No, I got a box of baseball cards up here I'm looking to open, but is this the same kind of thing or are we doing You know 34? have always wanted to try reading a deck of baseball cards or something like that.

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I have read cards Wow.

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I have done that.

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In fact, I started teaching my son 'cause he loves Pokemon so much.

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I'm like, why don't we grab a a, a deck of Pokemon cards and pull one? And you read my future.

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You read my, you read what it means for me and he's pretty good at it.

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That's a wrap gu.

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So season three will be Courtney Pearl.

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Just reading Pokemon cards.

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That's gonna be a hit.

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cards.

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That's gonna be a hit.

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it.

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That's it.

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We'll see you guys.

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No, I'm.

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Your card for today though, I think is, and that this is for you, but it's also for our listeners.

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All right.

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So this actually falls really, really well in line with the seasons because we're coming up on.

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Summer solstice or litho, if you know the, the technical terms for the wheel of the year, marks of the year.

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Um, so we have summer solstice coming up and this is the electricity card? I'm electric.

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The word that they put with it is wildness.

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Wildness, which I think to me it symbolizes like the, uh, the, the turning, the wheel of the year.

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We're coming into summer, right? So we're coming into a really adult, sort of energy.

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It's Okay.

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stage of coming into adulthood.

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And a lot of people associate adulthood with like, ugh, responsibility.

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We're getting weighed down.

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But actually, if you think about it, it's that like freedom.

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That feeling like you just turned 16 and you got your driver's license and the keys to the car for the first time.

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that kind of vibe.

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It's like I, the world has just opened up to me.

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feel like it's fitting with what's going on in your life right now? I.

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Yeah, it does actually.

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Um, I love that interpretation and I noticed that you, you like to go to the younger.

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Age of somebody like recently me and you got the privilege, and I do mean privilege of hosting a, a panel of discussion at Pride, daybreak pride.

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Yes.

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And the best question out of all that, and I don't know how it must have, maybe it was a heat dream or something, I don't know what was going on, but you asked this question, you said, what would they write to their, what? 6-year-old self? Their, their child.

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I started thinking about all that stuff.

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I was doing that yesterday.

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I was thinking about it even.

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Uh, but it sticks in my mind.

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And I love that.

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You, you, you talk about that stuff.

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You even did that throughout the season too.

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Um.

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inner child work is definitely my niche.

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If I was to think of a, a particular healing, um, niche that I have, I don't know.

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Uh, but inner child work has always been really powerful and I, I, I find that.

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That was where a lot of the panel discussion was going anyway, because a lot of 'em were talking about this is what I would want, you know, kids who are coming out or, you know, transgender or their identity and what they would, what, what I want them to know is, don't give up and there's someone you know, there's better out there for you.

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It's gonna get better.

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And, and then I thought to myself, what if somebody said that to you when you were six or when you were younger? I mean.

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That's the kind of sessions I love is the ones where people come to me and when they're talking to their younger self and they say something, sometimes all it is, is that like one thing where they go, you're loved or you're safe, or just that one thing they say and then the tears start coming.

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Or they're like, they're, they feel the release, they feel the like energy behind that and it feels real.

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It's real time travel.

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They're going back to their younger self and they're gonna be like.

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I'm good now.

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I I've got what I need and it's okay that I didn't have it then.

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'cause I have it now.

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I love that.

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What? But seriously, what an incredible experience that was.

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Uh, was, did catch.

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Flack.

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I did catch some flack over my ocean comment, but I wasn't wrong.

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I'm not wrong though.

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I'm not wrong.

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If people out there can change the name of a body of water easily that the body of water doesn't even care about, then it's not hard to call somebody by whatever they want to be called by.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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Just respecting, just respecting a person really is all it is.

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'cause uh, uh, it's possible that some people in the audience still aren't sure about, you know, maybe their child is coming out transgender, and they're like, well, I'm, I'm scared.

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I don't know what that means.

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I don't know if I should be protecting them from something or, you know, things like that.

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And, um, sometimes the advice is just, why don't you just honor where they're at? Whether you think it's right or wrong really doesn't matter Yeah.

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what your child needs is someone to say, I see you.

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Right? You, see you.

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I see what you wanna be called.

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I, you're telling me these are your pronouns.

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I'm gonna respect it no matter what I think.

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I mean, you touched on this end, I guess, uh, I'm looking at, we're talking about season two.

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It was episode eight.

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You did the emotional healing.

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There was an emotional healing Mm-hmm.

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uh, that, that you, I don't remember if you dove into the inner child work, but I'm sure you did because.

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It has to relate to that, but, Yeah.

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And we, and I did even more in depth with that in the inner child's, um, episode right.

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yeah, that I, towards the end of the season Okay.

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That was season two.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Maybe I do need to catch up.

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Maybe I need to catch up.

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That's all right.

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You know? It.

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That's why it's all out there.

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And folks, if you're like, what is she talking about? There's all these things I don't know about.

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That's why season one and season two are all out for you to watch and listen Alright You can do it anytime.

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on the YouTube channel.

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favorite episodes, the ones you liked, and that stuck to you.

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I know your favorite.

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I'm not gonna jump on that one just yet though.

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I don't wanna jump on that one.

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We're gonna talk about that one in depth probably, and I don't wanna.

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Lots of Too much.

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That was that.

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That's life.

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That was a life changing.

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Well, you know what I gotta ask about first? Hold your arms up.

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Cha.

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Oh, you can't even see it.

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You got two tattoos this season.

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And not only that, you did it on camera Mm-hmm.

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artist, Liberty.

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Liberty, the tattoo artist.

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That was one of my favorite ideas.

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I was like, and the first time I went in to see her, we had such a good conversation.

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We were talking about spirituality and tattoos and you know, connecting with our ancestors, and I'm like.

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I wish I had the camera and the microphone.

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And I'm like, so when I asked her, I'm like, if I come back for for the next time, would you record with me? And she was like, oh, absolutely.

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Sure.

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She was a little nervous.

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She was like, oh, I don't know.

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But you can hear even in the audio, the the tattoo pen going, you know 'cause she's working on my tattoo while we're talking.

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While we did that interview, Yeah, there was, I mean, I don't, I've done this for a long time, a lot of history.

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I don't think I've ever done a live of tattoo recording.

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No, I don't think I have.

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So you just special.

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me a, uh, that's a brand new thing for me, so congrats.

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I need a, an award or something, or I.

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Most original idea.

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And I mean, if it had been more of a painful tattoo that other people may have experienced, I may not have been able to do it that way.

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I wanted to like record or like have a mindset where I could talk while we were doing it.

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but it wasn't too bad.

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I could handle the pain level was all right for me and.

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I got it right here.

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I got a piece of this.

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Let's see this.

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You were so focused.

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You don't even know what she's saying.

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Do you, Courtney, looks like you look like you're fighting back tears in this.

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Are you, was it, was it rough? What happened there? How was this? In the zone, Yeah.

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that's me just listening to her like, I'm, I, I just wanna hear, take in what she's saying and not get distracted.

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And I did, I, I did tend to like find a focal point to what to look at with my eyes while we were doing it so that I was like, not looking at what she was doing or trying to get distracted.

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More tattoos for you, or is that it? Those two.

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Not, uh, mind.

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I wouldn't say never say never, but, uh, but definitely I would go to Liberty because she's amazing.

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I love her.

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I'm looking for somebody to just tattoo my name on them.

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Just, just Blane.

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Just for me.

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Just, I don't know who would do it, but Oh, there's, do.

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Surely there's someone.

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honestly, I know who it'll be.

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It is me.

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It's just me.

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Just you? Just Blane.

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I'll be the only one.

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Just Blane? You had a bunch of guests on this year.

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You had a bunch of great experts in their fields, really, uh, Liberty being one of them.

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Mm-hmm.

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the book Witch.

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She was incredible too.

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That's a great one.

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You had Tiffany, Lacey, was she, is she overseas? Yes, Tiffany is, uh, my mentor, my teacher, kind of, um.

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It's kind of an amazing story because I met her doing the pilgrimage in England.

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had just moved to Wales at that time, so she was really excited to say like, I am a resident of Wales.

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I live in Wales now.

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And that was really exciting for her.

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uh, she's been a part of the Sisterhood of Avalon for a long time and has several books out and um, and so I got to meet her in person there first.

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Uh, then get to know her work a little bit more.

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And then it was had to do an episode on Alchemy.

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You know, realizing that a lot of the work that we do in the healing world or in Energetics, it coincides really well with Alchemy.

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I didn't know anything about it.

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I was like, but what is it exactly? Is it actual chemical reactions that you're doing? Are you like a scientist with little, little.

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Yeah.

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flasks and tubes and things, and you're like making gold.

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What? But it, is it more theoretical or is it, the history behind it? What is an alchemist? And she's the first person I thought of because I knew that she knew all of the things that I needed to know.

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So having her on the show was one of my top, top moments.

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you learn what you wanted to know about Alchemy? Tell us a little bit about it.

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Tell us what you.

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Ever since that interview and she recommended before the interview I said, what do I need to read up on? What do, what would you recommend? And I thought she was gonna tell me one of her own books.

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I was like, so of your books, what should I be, you know, studying? And she was like, uh, you need to get the emerald tablets.

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You need to study this.

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And, um.

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So I've been reading that.

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Then, uh, she came out with some courses.

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The enlightenment path is three courses that she teaches, Nice.

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and, um, a new form of energy modality, energy healing called honey, which sounds like the stuff that you put on your, um, your toast, right honey.

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But it's spelled H-Y-N-N-I.

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It's Welsh for energy and she created it to go, uh, healing modality that goes through all of the cycles of the year.

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It has alchemical considerations in each cycle of the year.

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So when I talk about summer solstice coming up and litho, this is the kind of energies that I'm bringing up.

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These are things that she's teaching me in this HONEY course, and I am so excited.

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I'm gonna work on certification in Honey, but I've already been using and incorporating honey into my healing work.

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So it's, of people describe it as reiki healing, but on steroids it's like blows it up.

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So.

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she's amazing.

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I noticed that on practically magic.com,

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and I just heard you mention some courses.

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You got courses, there's courses up there, Oh yeah, so you're gonna do an alchemy course.

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Is that why I'm.

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Oh my gosh.

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Well that would take me a little more time to become, uh, I need the content pedagogy, if you will.

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This is my teacher coming out is like, I'm not gonna teach something that I don't feel real ready to teach people.

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But what I love to teach is certain classes that empower people.

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And, um, so yeah, I, we, we just released in the, in the, um, what's gonna be available on that website is the, um, connecting with sacred spaces, the alters course did live with a, with a class group of people on Zoom online.

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And I'll still wanna do some virtual classes as we go do that again.

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'cause I don't know, the interaction with other people and adults and their questions and discussion, it just kind of enhances the whole experience.

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I feel like everybody learns more when we do it that way, Yeah, but then to have that available to people to purchase and then take the course on their own time is gonna be amazing.

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So.

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I love it.

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that we started practically magic, practically magic.com

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website this year, another season two offering that's now gonna just grow and have all kinds of things available to people.

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That's right.

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getting that out there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We did that.

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That happened.

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That happened for season two.

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And you heard people, you gotta, Courtney needs to get her Patagonia or something she said there for, is that what that word was? I don't even know.

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I had a Google.

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Okay.

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When, when you're a teacher, they talk about pedagogy a lot as a education degree.

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They're like, it means you gotta know what you're teaching really well.

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I don't go out there and start like teaching kids math and you don't know math.

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Absolutely.

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So I can't go teach an alchemy just because I play the Witcher video game and know about mixing up.

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right.

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Yeah.

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So help though.

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it could, it could maybe, I, Hmm.

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Maybe I got a.

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Maybe I can have a side business, the Alchemist, something like that.

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that anyone going through a healing session with me or with anybody who really knows what they're doing, um, is performing alchemy.

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I.

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It's a transformation.

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You're transforming all of the lead in your body into gold, into what you need.

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So every session with me is an alchemical process, and I know that now.

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Now if I, so you're saying if I get hard up for some money, I can start cutting my fingers and sell that as gold? Is that what happens? is gold.

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Well, there is energy in it.

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I'm just not sure anybody would buy it.

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Who wants to buy my finger out there? Is there anybody out there? I got a finger for sale? body parts in the black market and yeah, Anybody? I need a.

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bit different vibe there.

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I got a kidney, I got a golden kidney.

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I, I can put it out there.

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One of one, one of one.

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Oh my God.

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There was something you just said and I was like, oh, oh, that we're gonna touch on that.

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And then I, and then like my mind is just blank.

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I'm like, what was it that we were just saying? That's what I do to people.

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That's what I do to people.

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It's like, you know what, I come in, you invited me on here and, and I'm just gonna disrupt the show.

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Like you probably had our whole schedule run down.

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over.

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No, there's no schedule here.

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Oh, that's another thing that we should probably touch on is that this, the format of season one and season two were different.

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There was a lot of like, um, let's set the foundation in season one of what we're doing here.

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What's magical? How do we engage with magic? What is real magic? What does it look like? How does it work? Um, maybe for people who were beginning at it or didn't know, or like, uh, what's energy? Why, why is that real? And then season two, like you mentioned, had a lot of guests.

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we're bringing in a lot more, uh, just discussion rather than like, here's all these resources you can go find more information about.

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if you want more of that, go to season one and season two.

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A lot of really good discussions, experts.

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Guests that came on, things like that.

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And then we'll move into season three, Whew.

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which will be coming out later this year.

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What's season three? What are you thinking? You got any hints, any tips you got? I have a lot of great ideas and I love to take a little bit of time away to do more research, more reading, more learning more classes, because I really feel like the quality of what I want to offer people.

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What I do here on Practically Magic is from a place of authenticity and, uh, pedagogy as we talked about.

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Like, I know what I'm talking about.

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I'm just, just out here with a camera, with a camera and a microphone and just saying whatever.

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So I'm gonna do a lot of really great collecting, feeding my brain full of things to then offer in season three, hopefully.

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And I'm just throwing it out there as a manifesting this to the universe.

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I would like there to be a co-host involved in Ooh.

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Ooh.

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I'm not gonna I liked it.

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about that until we know for sure what's gonna happen with that.

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But I like that.

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I think, I think, I think you could find a co-host and, no, it's not me.

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We're, we'll throw that out there right now.

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It's not gonna be me.

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Although we'll have you back at the wrap up, right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'll be, gotta be just plain episode.

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That's just I'll be, gonna be on the season three wrap up, believe me.

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But I think a co-host with you.

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Yeah.

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We put it out there.

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It's in the, it's in the universe.

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The Ether, some would say, there.

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Yeah.

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The right person and the right vibe, hmm.

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The chemistry that would need to be there.

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But I think the discussion between me and another person who also does this type of work would be really beneficial to listeners to what sort of ideas come to our mind in the moment.

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And, uh, and we'll set it up, we'll set up a format that, uh, will be really, really, uh, applicable That's gonna be fun.

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That's gonna be fun.

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was probably the thing I was going to bring up earlier.

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What I, what I forgot I was gonna say was the, um, how to spot a fraud episode in season two.

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What did you think about that? My I like that that episode.

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She's like, are you calling people out? you were, but I, I mean, in a way it is, but all honestly, they do need to be called out.

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And what it reminded me of, if you're of this certain vintage, that's a nice way for me to say I'm old.

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I remember Ms.

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Cleo.

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Back in the nineties or whatever.

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That's Miss Cleo called me up one 900.

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It was 900 numbers back in the 900 numbers.

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You know, that's a thing too.

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It cost money per minute.

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Biggest fraud there was.

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Yeah.

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it reminded me of that and I'm like, man, there's people out there that are snake oil salesman.

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You know, like I've got a couple bottles over here behind.

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No, but yeah, the unicorn dust when, um, was from AL'S back in the yeah.

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18 hundreds and that kind of thing.

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But, I did, I do hesitate when I want to kind of mention something about another healer or, or someone in the community that does this kind of work and I.

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I do like to, for the most part, say to each their own.

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Everybody's gonna find works for them.

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It's not for me to say whether someone's a good healer or not a good healer, and that kind of judgment just isn't, isn't my place.

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And, and for the most part, I, that's where I operate.

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Um, but I did have, again, I'm very lovely, very, very wise mentor in the community that told me.

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If someone's doing harm, it is our responsibility to say so because there have been in the past, um, in the witchcraft, mystic, modern, mystic type of, um, community, I would say the, the type of work that we do, um, that have done great, great deal of harm to people following them.

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And when I have.

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clients or people in this world that come to me and say, oh my gosh, you know, this person is charging, uh, a ridiculous amount of money for not much that they're giving back.

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Um, or they're even recruiting people.

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Who are paying them to become an affiliate or a, and then all of a sudden it looks very much like the pyramid shape.

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Uh.

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you get my drift, which I'll just say the culture here in Utah, we're very familiar with the pyramid shape, and so a lot of people are susceptible to falling into that same structure, which is now that you've been trained, now that you've.

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Paid me thousands of dollars to know all these things I've that I've taught you.

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Now you can become a representative of me and you can start making money too.

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But of course I will always make more money than you because you're under me and.

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So on and so forth.

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So I do feel that it is a duty and responsibility to at least be able to call that out and say to people, be careful.

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Be careful what you're getting yourself into because, just because they're saying all the right things and sometimes they really do, they say all the things that I'm saying here on this podcast, but they're are, there are snakes out there? You heard it here first.

367
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Courtney.

368
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Courtney Pearl is a fraud, guys.

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That's what it, that's what she.

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And the, yeah.

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And you aren't gonna pay for what you, what you're getting out of something.

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I'm, I'm not saying that it's not also gonna fall under the rules of capitalism.

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'cause that's the system we all, uh, live on, live with.

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but more or less it has to be the right energy exchange.

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Money is like any, is energy like anything else.

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So make sure that the energy exchange is balanced.

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It's.

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Did you hear my, uh, accent come out there? Balanced.

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It did Balanced.

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act.

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hear it there.

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She.

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Accepting the booty.

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We've seen enough.

385
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Look, that's the biggest part of all time that you could see this, like how.

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I, I've seen frauds and I've seen people, uh, in a money grab, and I've seen people, um, pr uh, their egos ahead of their own, um, purpose in the world.

387
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But, uh, but after seeing those clips, I'm not so convinced that Cleo's a, a fraud.

388
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Uh, she sounds legit.

389
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I mean, say stop stepped into board calls, you know, like that's.

390
00:26:43,392.2032488 --> 00:26:44,922.2032488
Hey, the cards say what? The cards say.

391
00:26:44,922.2032488 --> 00:26:45,252.2032488
I can't.

392
00:26:45,372.2032488 --> 00:26:46,467.2032488
Nobody can help that.

393
00:26:46,767.2032488 --> 00:26:50,652.2032488
Now, which card is the booty call card in the tarot? I guess that depends.

394
00:26:52,347.2032488 --> 00:26:57,57.2032488
I'm not on the person you're reading for and the card that comes up and the right.

395
00:26:57,402.2032488 --> 00:27:01,917.2032488
in You know what? You know what? I gotta go ahead and and get to this 'cause we're running outta time.

396
00:27:02,847.2032488 --> 00:27:06,117.2032488
Look at, look at me dictating your show, your time of your show.

397
00:27:06,162.2032488 --> 00:27:06,433.2032488
love it.

398
00:27:07,77.2032488 --> 00:27:08,27.2032488
But Go for it.

399
00:27:08,337.2032488 --> 00:27:13,497.2032488
you know who wasn't at Fraud was a couple we ran into during season two and that was.

400
00:27:14,112.2032488 --> 00:27:14,472.2032488
Dr.

401
00:27:14,472.2032488 --> 00:27:19,602.2032488
Nate Unfer and Chandelle Pinot Right.

402
00:27:19,692.2032488 --> 00:27:21,522.2032488
Energy side, and Dr.

403
00:27:21,522.2032488 --> 00:27:22,662.2032488
Nate was the Ketamine side.

404
00:27:22,722.2032488 --> 00:27:29,727.2032488
Now, we had our, your first psychedelic experience Yep.

405
00:27:30,132.2032488 --> 00:27:32,772.2032488
during season two, and we recorded that it's out there.

406
00:27:33,192.2032488 --> 00:27:40,602.2032488
We've also got a documentary in the works that we're gonna put together that we've been working on for months with Dr.

407
00:27:40,602.2032488 --> 00:27:41,547.2032488
Nate and Chandelle.

408
00:27:43,857.2032488 --> 00:27:46,797.2032488
I'm gonna tell you right now, that changed my life.

409
00:27:47,582.2032488 --> 00:27:47,862.2032488
Yep.

410
00:27:48,567.2032488 --> 00:27:49,737.2032488
Ketamine changed my life.

411
00:27:50,307.2032488 --> 00:27:50,607.2032488
Yeah.

412
00:27:50,727.2032488 --> 00:27:54,807.2032488
And it's people out there probably saying, oh, they're a bunch of drug addicts.

413
00:27:54,807.2032488 --> 00:27:55,467.2032488
Let me tune out.

414
00:27:55,467.2032488 --> 00:27:56,517.2032488
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

415
00:27:57,267.2032488 --> 00:27:59,637.2032488
It's not that we went in there with intention.

416
00:28:00,297.2032488 --> 00:28:01,917.2032488
It's not taking psychedelics.

417
00:28:01,917.2032488 --> 00:28:11,697.2032488
It's not eating a bunch of mushrooms out in the field somewhere and laying out, which it's a good time too, but it went with intention and.

418
00:28:12,312.2032488 --> 00:28:14,442.2032488
It will rewire your brand.

419
00:28:14,442.2032488 --> 00:28:18,342.2032488
You did an episode in season one, neuroplasticity, Yep.

420
00:28:18,642.2032488 --> 00:28:19,362.2032488
same type of thing.

421
00:28:19,362.2032488 --> 00:28:19,782.2032488
Look at me.

422
00:28:19,842.2032488 --> 00:28:20,682.2032488
I remembered that one.

423
00:28:21,102.2032488 --> 00:28:31,452.2032488
But that changed my life in ways that therapy would've taken years to do, and it works for everybody.

424
00:28:31,452.2032488 --> 00:28:32,922.2032488
I'm giving a testimonial right now.

425
00:28:33,342.2032488 --> 00:28:38,412.2032488
I've been in a room where it was, you know, hypnosis, you got a hundred people in there.

426
00:28:39,102.2032488 --> 00:28:41,832.2032488
They try the hypnosis, 30 of them get hypnotized.

427
00:28:42,342.2032488 --> 00:28:48,702.2032488
I can guarantee you right now if they went in a room with a hundred people and did this, a hundred people are walking outta there with their lives changed.

428
00:28:50,907.2032488 --> 00:28:51,732.2032488
I believe it.

429
00:28:52,32.2032488 --> 00:28:52,92.2032488
Yeah.

430
00:28:52,392.2032488 --> 00:28:53,997.2032488
And, and it really did.

431
00:28:54,147.2032488 --> 00:28:59,522.2032488
Like everything that I offer in, in what I've learned, where I've come to and.

432
00:29:00,237.2032488 --> 00:29:03,747.2032488
Um, emotional processing that helps neuroplasticity.

433
00:29:03,747.2032488 --> 00:29:08,487.2032488
I've, I've studied the NAAP model, which is like neuro, uh, assimilation.

434
00:29:08,517.2032488 --> 00:29:09,387.2032488
It's, uh.

435
00:29:09,627.2032488 --> 00:29:17,97.2032488
Um, anyway, neuro research and all of this that I, that I put in, I throw a little bit of that and a little bit of this.

436
00:29:17,97.2032488 --> 00:29:24,567.2032488
It's like I've got my cauldron and these are all my little things that I put in to make a potion that's catered to the client what they need.

437
00:29:24,567.2032488 --> 00:29:24,927.2032488
Right.

438
00:29:25,647.2032488 --> 00:29:34,137.2032488
And I do believe in that work, and I've seen it change people's lives, but I have, it takes time.

439
00:29:34,167.2032488 --> 00:29:38,907.2032488
It takes quite a bit of effort and it really, um.

440
00:29:40,962.2032488 --> 00:29:45,222.2032488
It's easy to fall back to old patterns.

441
00:29:45,237.2032488 --> 00:29:52,332.2032488
It, it takes a lot of commitment and a lot of like, okay, every two weeks or every month, I'm gonna keep at it and keep at it and keep at it.

442
00:29:52,782.2032488 --> 00:30:04,212.2032488
So I will just say that, you know, academy session from my experience is giving you that extra, like you don't have to put quite as much effort.

443
00:30:05,82.2032488 --> 00:30:13,987.2032488
Because the psychedelics and what it's doing with your brain and what happens afterwards just opens up a portal for you to be able to do it much easier and Yep.

444
00:30:14,682.2032488 --> 00:30:21,522.2032488
into those new pathways without quite so much effort and work that Healing Sessions will do.

445
00:30:22,2.2032488 --> 00:30:22,902.2032488
It will do it.

446
00:30:22,932.2032488 --> 00:30:28,12.2032488
It's just not going to, um, be quite that, Effective.

447
00:30:28,392.2032488 --> 00:30:30,22.2032488
automatic, effective.

448
00:30:30,22.2032488 --> 00:30:30,742.2032488
Immediately.

449
00:30:30,802.2032488 --> 00:30:31,162.2032488
Yeah.

450
00:30:31,602.2032488 --> 00:30:32,52.2032488
Yes.

451
00:30:32,52.2032488 --> 00:30:32,442.2032488
Yeah.

452
00:30:33,172.2032488 --> 00:30:36,772.2032488
cause it is that it, it was a, yeah.

453
00:30:37,102.2032488 --> 00:30:39,442.2032488
It change, it changed.

454
00:30:39,532.2032488 --> 00:30:40,312.2032488
Changed my life.

455
00:30:40,312.2032488 --> 00:30:44,932.2032488
Like it really did, uh, helped me focus, it helped me be in the moment.

456
00:30:45,252.2032488 --> 00:30:48,12.2032488
Helped me be present, you know, that kind of stuff, which is hard.

457
00:30:48,552.2032488 --> 00:30:57,102.2032488
Um, that was one of my favorite experiences of season two for you, but one of my favorite experiences in the last I.

458
00:30:57,492.2032488 --> 00:30:58,662.2032488
is wondering.

459
00:30:59,547.2032488 --> 00:31:09,57.2032488
Hasn't seen it yet, and you're like, what do I need to know about this? That's also one of the best produced episodes this season, because you were all over it.

460
00:31:09,57.2032488 --> 00:31:13,857.2032488
Right? just Blane's over there with like, I'm gonna get a drone to record.

461
00:31:13,857.2032488 --> 00:31:16,887.2032488
I'm gonna get a, so it's just a great episode.

462
00:31:16,887.2032488 --> 00:31:19,707.2032488
For that reason alone, It was fun.

463
00:31:19,707.2032488 --> 00:31:20,697.2032488
just looks great.

464
00:31:20,907.2032488 --> 00:31:23,547.2032488
So if anybody's like, oh, I gotta go check this out.

465
00:31:23,757.2032488 --> 00:31:28,797.2032488
A lot of the episodes I've done, I've just done, you know, here in my little recording studio, which is just my cave.

466
00:31:29,172.2032488 --> 00:31:30,972.2032488
My, my little meditation space.

467
00:31:31,302.2032488 --> 00:31:33,102.2032488
Um, so it's just me doing my little thing.

468
00:31:33,492.2032488 --> 00:31:36,42.2032488
Um, but that episode was just like next level.

469
00:31:36,192.2032488 --> 00:31:38,262.2032488
So Uh, one worth watching.

470
00:31:38,487.2032488 --> 00:31:41,967.2032488
I had so much fun and like I said, we got a documentary coming out where.

471
00:31:42,522.2032488 --> 00:31:42,957.2032488
Yeah.

472
00:31:43,257.2032488 --> 00:31:50,937.2032488
did you participate in the session, but you watched the session where I'm there and that one got, that one got crazy.

473
00:31:51,492.2032488 --> 00:31:52,137.2032488
Yeah.

474
00:31:52,437.2032488 --> 00:31:53,67.2032488
That one got weird.

475
00:31:53,847.2032488 --> 00:31:55,497.2032488
That one got weird and it got crazy.

476
00:31:55,527.2032488 --> 00:31:57,477.2032488
Uh, we, we have some of that.

477
00:31:57,477.2032488 --> 00:31:58,887.2032488
So we that's gonna come out.

478
00:31:59,397.2032488 --> 00:32:05,157.2032488
So there's, there's an announcement, I didn't even mean to get to the announcements yet, but there's one, the Ketamine documentary.

479
00:32:05,157.2032488 --> 00:32:06,357.2032488
We're gonna get that thing together.

480
00:32:06,897.2032488 --> 00:32:06,957.2032488
Um.

481
00:32:07,257.2032488 --> 00:32:08,787.2032488
Get it together, you're gonna wanna watch it.

482
00:32:08,787.2032488 --> 00:32:09,717.2032488
It's incredible.

483
00:32:09,717.2032488 --> 00:32:15,597.2032488
I mean, just getting to be in a space where someone is going through that, it's a sacred space and.

484
00:32:16,17.2032488 --> 00:32:35,217.2032488
Um, I've been in spaces where not only am I the one who gets to go through the initiation process, and so you see in my episode, like the group session that we did, and I'm, I'm participating in psychedelics for the first time and I'm a very clean person, like barely have experienced anything, um, outside of, um, a glass of water.

485
00:32:35,697.2032488 --> 00:32:36,357.2032488
So.

486
00:32:37,137.2032488 --> 00:32:38,877.2032488
That was really, really different for me.

487
00:32:38,877.2032488 --> 00:33:00,477.2032488
That was really like, I, you know, even just inviting some outside chemical or influence into my body I'm real careful with, right? Like I real, I really decide what am I gonna engage with? And this was something that I knew not only do I trust the people that I'm doing it with, um, the people taking care of me, uh, that they are.

488
00:33:01,242.2032488 --> 00:33:10,632.2032488
You know, facilitating this whole process, um, having the doctor there with the monitor and everything, I knew like, I'm, nothing's gonna happen to me during this space.

489
00:33:10,632.2032488 --> 00:33:18,120.9532488
I've got somebody there who's gonna make sure I'm breathing and make sure my heart is pumping and I'm gonna be okay, and I come out of it just fine and all the things.

490
00:33:19,302.2032488 --> 00:33:20,202.2032488
but being able to be a.

491
00:33:20,332.2032488 --> 00:33:34,972.2032488
Sitter with Chandel during your session was also like being a priestess in old ancient times of being able to sit with someone when they go through that experience and to be like, I get to be the one that brings them out of that.

492
00:33:35,32.2032488 --> 00:33:42,742.2032488
And I've gotten to be that person for people, uh, in many different experiences in ways, which was, it is a sacred space as well.

493
00:33:43,42.2032488 --> 00:33:43,702.2032488
Oh it is.

494
00:33:43,702.2032488 --> 00:33:44,572.2032488
And I didn't realize that.

495
00:33:45,112.2032488 --> 00:33:45,892.2032488
I didn't realize that.

496
00:33:46,522.2032488 --> 00:33:48,712.2032488
Me, I'm not so clean.

497
00:33:48,712.2032488 --> 00:33:51,562.2032488
I've had my share of recreational stuff.

498
00:33:51,562.2032488 --> 00:33:52,852.2032488
If you can't tell, come on.

499
00:33:53,662.2032488 --> 00:33:54,922.2032488
But I'm gonna tell you this.

500
00:33:56,67.2032488 --> 00:33:56,852.2032488
you've lived.

501
00:33:57,357.2032488 --> 00:34:03,117.2032488
I've lived, but nothing ever touches that experience.

502
00:34:03,417.2032488 --> 00:34:05,397.2032488
And I've said this to numerous people.

503
00:34:05,397.2032488 --> 00:34:07,707.2032488
I was, I'm, I'm an, I was an alcoholic.

504
00:34:07,707.2032488 --> 00:34:16,527.2032488
I'm no longer, I'm sober, uh, off alcohol, but I have an addictive personality.

505
00:34:17,127.2032488 --> 00:34:22,437.2032488
Ketamine, I'm not sitting at home on Friday night thinking, oh my gosh, I wish I had a shot to put in my arm of ketamine.

506
00:34:22,827.2032488 --> 00:34:23,817.2032488
That's not how it works.

507
00:34:23,817.2032488 --> 00:34:25,227.2032488
It's not how it operates.

508
00:34:25,317.2032488 --> 00:34:25,947.2032488
not at all.

509
00:34:26,7.2032488 --> 00:34:27,267.2032488
Yeah, I didn't It was.

510
00:34:27,387.2032488 --> 00:34:35,637.2032488
In fact, I haven't done it again since yet, but I'm very much open to, uh, you know, what they've told me is like, even a second session, you're gonna go even deeper.

511
00:34:35,667.2032488 --> 00:34:36,267.2032488
It's Yeah.

512
00:34:36,387.2032488 --> 00:34:37,797.2032488
better, you know? So I'm like, okay.

513
00:34:37,797.2032488 --> 00:34:38,817.2032488
When the time is right.

514
00:34:38,997.2032488 --> 00:34:43,257.2032488
I have no qualms about doing it again, but I'm not in a rush to do it again either.

515
00:34:43,257.2032488 --> 00:34:44,277.2032488
So, Yeah.

516
00:34:44,607.2032488 --> 00:34:45,717.2032488
It just, it'll just happen.

517
00:34:45,777.2032488 --> 00:34:46,587.2032488
And that's yeah.

518
00:34:47,37.2032488 --> 00:34:47,727.2032488
kind of how it is.

519
00:34:47,727.2032488 --> 00:34:52,197.2032488
If people out there thinking, Hey, I think I might like to try psychedelics.

520
00:34:52,197.2032488 --> 00:34:52,887.2032488
It'll just happen.

521
00:34:53,652.2032488 --> 00:34:54,192.2032488
It'll just happen.

522
00:34:54,192.2032488 --> 00:34:55,152.2032488
Don't, don't seek it out.

523
00:34:55,152.2032488 --> 00:34:56,772.2032488
Don't go do it recreationally.

524
00:34:57,732.2032488 --> 00:34:58,122.2032488
Yeah.

525
00:34:58,512.2032488 --> 00:35:02,172.2032488
I can condone that, but hey, I.

526
00:35:02,262.2032488 --> 00:35:04,932.2032488
those people in your area that can do it for you.

527
00:35:04,932.2032488 --> 00:35:06,342.2032488
The way that Dr.

528
00:35:06,342.2032488 --> 00:35:11,892.2032488
Uncover and she guided Ketamine and Interlight Academy, they partner together to do it.

529
00:35:11,892.2032488 --> 00:35:22,932.2032488
But, uh, something like that, if you're not local here in our area, um, and you need to find someone like that, that's a really great, uh, place to start if you're looking at doing that.

530
00:35:23,877.2032488 --> 00:35:31,197.2032488
I got a crazy confession side effect from Ketamine that I haven't said to anybody and.

531
00:35:31,812.2032488 --> 00:35:42,762.2032488
I was a rave DJ for a lot of years, right? It wasn't until the second time I did ketamine that I understood d and b music, drum and bass.

532
00:35:44,922.2032488 --> 00:35:45,702.2032488
It's weird.

533
00:35:45,732.2032488 --> 00:35:48,702.2032488
I, I, that was the one genre I would stay away from.

534
00:35:48,702.2032488 --> 00:35:49,332.2032488
I didn't wanna hear it.

535
00:35:49,332.2032488 --> 00:35:50,202.2032488
It was too much noise.

536
00:35:50,202.2032488 --> 00:36:00,312.2032488
It was too much this, too much that I accidentally put a mix on after the second session, I believe ketamine, and it made sense.

537
00:36:00,402.2032488 --> 00:36:01,2.2032488
I was like, oh.

538
00:36:01,302.2032488 --> 00:36:04,212.2032488
Oh, interesting.

539
00:36:04,312.2032488 --> 00:36:06,897.2032488
you know what drum and bass is, it's high BPM.

540
00:36:06,897.2032488 --> 00:36:09,927.2032488
It's a bunch of snares and drum.

541
00:36:10,232.2032488 --> 00:36:11,637.2032488
It's, it's exactly what you think it is.

542
00:36:11,637.2032488 --> 00:36:12,357.2032488
Drum and bass.

543
00:36:13,107.2032488 --> 00:36:14,97.2032488
I didn't ever like that music.

544
00:36:14,97.2032488 --> 00:36:15,147.2032488
That's all I'm listening to now.

545
00:36:15,777.2032488 --> 00:36:16,377.2032488
I love it.

546
00:36:16,377.2032488 --> 00:36:16,767.2032488
I love it.

547
00:36:16,767.2032488 --> 00:36:23,937.2032488
It's almost like I can, it's almost like it's slowed down for me now, and I can deconstruct, because that's the key word for that.

548
00:36:23,937.2032488 --> 00:36:27,87.2032488
Ketamine deconstruct Yes, you.

549
00:36:27,117.2032488 --> 00:36:27,807.2032488
sure.

550
00:36:27,867.2032488 --> 00:36:30,717.2032488
Everything about you is deconstructed and you rebuild all that.

551
00:36:31,947.2032488 --> 00:36:34,467.2032488
DNB didn't make sense to me until I did Ketamine.

552
00:36:35,37.2032488 --> 00:36:35,517.2032488
Yeah.

553
00:36:35,877.2032488 --> 00:36:37,107.2032488
There's a soundbite cook.

554
00:36:37,437.2032488 --> 00:36:38,97.2032488
Put that out.

555
00:36:38,577.2032488 --> 00:36:40,467.2032488
I can, oh, I can totally see it.

556
00:36:40,467.2032488 --> 00:36:44,487.2032488
And the correlations between sound healing light frequencies.

557
00:36:44,877.2032488 --> 00:36:53,907.2032488
Um, and then during Ketamine experience, I could see all of that, you know, playing a part in the reconstruction of ourselves, of everything.

558
00:36:54,207.2032488 --> 00:37:00,207.2032488
I mean, even the experience during ketamine trip journey is really powerful.

559
00:37:00,207.2032488 --> 00:37:01,242.2032488
So I could definitely see that.

560
00:37:01,542.2032488 --> 00:37:02,172.2032488
I have talked to.

561
00:37:02,787.2032488 --> 00:37:04,917.2032488
I never understood metal music.

562
00:37:05,787.2032488 --> 00:37:16,77.2032488
Until my first, uh, reiki session when I was releasing a lot of energy connected to anger and rage, and then I got in the car after that.

563
00:37:16,322.2032488 --> 00:37:20,367.2032488
This was many years ago when I first started out, and I, it was like my very first reiki session.

564
00:37:20,367.2032488 --> 00:37:20,427.2032488
I.

565
00:37:21,237.2032488 --> 00:37:24,447.2032488
remember getting in the car and I was like, I need to listen to some metal music.

566
00:37:24,447.2032488 --> 00:37:24,837.2032488
Right now.

567
00:37:25,227.2032488 --> 00:37:33,87.2032488
I'm turning on like the most like raging screaming music that I could find, and I was just loving it.

568
00:37:33,157.2032488 --> 00:37:35,397.2032488
I was Yeah, I just, yes.

569
00:37:35,427.2032488 --> 00:37:36,597.2032488
I need to rage out.

570
00:37:37,357.2032488 --> 00:37:37,927.2032488
it's wild.

571
00:37:38,52.2032488 --> 00:37:38,922.2032488
What? What the.

572
00:37:39,777.2032488 --> 00:37:54,627.2032488
Mine will do with the music, with your taste, I guess, what kind of taste you have, because I was, I don't, there's not really a type of music that I, I won't say I hate anything because somebody put work and effort into that and that was their passion.

573
00:37:54,897.2032488 --> 00:37:58,317.2032488
So how can you hate that? But I may not go seek it out.

574
00:37:58,317.2032488 --> 00:37:59,607.2032488
I didn't go seek out d and b.

575
00:37:59,607.2032488 --> 00:38:01,857.2032488
But now Yeah.

576
00:38:01,947.2032488 --> 00:38:02,547.2032488
thing I wanna hit though.

577
00:38:02,547.2032488 --> 00:38:07,77.2032488
Chandel puts in a lot of effort into picking a playlist.

578
00:38:08,97.2032488 --> 00:38:09,327.2032488
Specifically for you.

579
00:38:10,227.2032488 --> 00:38:11,607.2032488
She build, she builds it for you.

580
00:38:11,607.2032488 --> 00:38:16,107.2032488
So they got, like I said, go, go watch that entire episode of Courtney's.

581
00:38:16,107.2032488 --> 00:38:17,847.2032488
'cause that was, that was one of my favorites.

582
00:38:17,847.2032488 --> 00:38:22,647.2032488
And the other favorite thing that me and you have done is the witch movie project.

583
00:38:23,562.2032488 --> 00:38:25,17.2032488
Absolutely we.

584
00:38:25,182.2032488 --> 00:38:31,752.2032488
and I'm so glad you put all those episodes out on the, on the practically magic PO website, so people need to go check those out.

585
00:38:31,782.2032488 --> 00:38:36,762.2032488
They're from last fall, but oh man, they are good anytime.

586
00:38:37,242.2032488 --> 00:38:42,42.2032488
Yeah, and I, I re-released those because I love those episodes.

587
00:38:42,72.2032488 --> 00:38:52,242.2032488
And the guy that I look up to, Joe Bob Ricks, I'll say his name again, him and Darcy a couple months back, did their double feature on a MC shutter and.

588
00:38:53,142.2032488 --> 00:38:55,512.2032488
They did witch movies and it wasn't one of our two.

589
00:38:57,42.2032488 --> 00:38:58,242.2032488
They didn't do either one of our two.

590
00:38:58,362.2032488 --> 00:39:07,392.2032488
did not even, uh, complete the, I mean, there are so many other movies in what we chose too, so I Oh yeah, that.

591
00:39:08,112.2032488 --> 00:39:08,532.2032488
yeah.

592
00:39:08,622.2032488 --> 00:39:13,422.2032488
But they did, they picked two other witch movies that were great and then we put ours out at the same time.

593
00:39:13,422.2032488 --> 00:39:17,532.2032488
So some of those people found it still waiting on a call from Joe Bob.

594
00:39:18,507.2032488 --> 00:39:26,277.2032488
It'll happen at some point we'll catch his eye and he'll be like, oh, these guys are doing some good work over here with these movies.

595
00:39:26,607.2032488 --> 00:39:28,752.2032488
I absolutely loved recording that last.

596
00:39:28,962.2032488 --> 00:39:29,892.2032488
Year so much.

597
00:39:29,892.2032488 --> 00:39:31,722.2032488
I love deep diving into those movies.

598
00:39:31,722.2032488 --> 00:39:33,252.2032488
I love horror movies.

599
00:39:33,672.2032488 --> 00:39:36,312.2032488
Um, some of them a little bit more outside my comfort zone.

600
00:39:36,312.2032488 --> 00:39:41,652.2032488
In fact, I was, uh, I was just talking about that Susperia movie the other day, Oh, the new one.

601
00:39:41,892.2032488 --> 00:39:43,917.2032488
And it was like, man, that was gory.

602
00:39:44,217.2032488 --> 00:39:44,667.2032488
it was.

603
00:39:44,832.2032488 --> 00:39:50,172.2032488
to my husband, I'm like, you left me to watch that by myself, late at night by myself.

604
00:39:50,947.2032488 --> 00:39:52,122.2032488
But man, it was good.

605
00:39:52,647.2032488 --> 00:39:54,477.2032488
What a fun project that was.

606
00:39:54,477.2032488 --> 00:39:57,327.2032488
You know what? I just saw a, uh, trailer for a movie.

607
00:39:57,507.2032488 --> 00:40:03,897.2032488
It's not a witch movie, but you know how I'm infatuated with a 24.

608
00:40:04,467.2032488 --> 00:40:05,67.2032488
Yeah.

609
00:40:05,547.2032488 --> 00:40:08,817.2032488
Now this one right here, I think is gonna be a.

610
00:41:11,797.2032488 --> 00:41:12,567.2032488
Good stuff.

611
00:41:13,832.2032488 --> 00:41:14,972.2032488
Yes.

612
00:41:15,842.2032488 --> 00:41:19,622.2032488
this is a whole other genre to me that's this.

613
00:41:19,742.2032488 --> 00:41:21,842.2032488
These are ghost movies, and there's a lot of those out there.

614
00:41:21,842.2032488 --> 00:41:22,742.2032488
This is a haunting.

615
00:41:22,742.2032488 --> 00:41:31,832.2032488
This is like a, and it looks like a whole other style than what I've ever seen out there, really? But it looks different.

616
00:41:31,832.2032488 --> 00:41:36,902.2032488
It looks like, I mean, it says it follows you home, like I like leaving it.

617
00:41:37,602.2032488 --> 00:41:40,572.2032488
I like leaving the theater and thinking, oh, I left whatever back there.

618
00:41:40,572.2032488 --> 00:41:48,747.2032488
I don't wanna come home and be like, oh my God, like Yeah, on? I mean, this is a lot of the work that I do in spirituality work.

619
00:41:48,747.2032488 --> 00:42:02,607.2032488
We're cleansing, we are removing entities, record cutting or transmuting and you can't help but get involved with the um.

620
00:42:03,882.2032488 --> 00:42:18,942.2032488
The paranormal, right? Like, uh, if you've ever watched the TV show, uh, they have the dead files and they have a, uh, an old, investigative PI guy and he's like the logical guy.

621
00:42:18,972.2032488 --> 00:42:23,502.2032488
He doesn't really believe in or understand or know a whole lot about the paranormal.

622
00:42:23,832.2032488 --> 00:42:26,322.2032488
Then you have a medium and they work as partners.

623
00:42:26,652.2032488 --> 00:42:34,122.2032488
He goes and like investigates a home, a family, their property, the history of it, all the things that he can find out.

624
00:42:34,452.2032488 --> 00:42:39,222.2032488
And then she goes into the house and does a reading and discovers like what entities are in the house.

625
00:42:40,122.2032488 --> 00:42:48,192.2032488
oftentimes she will tell them the owners of the house, like, if you need to cleanse this house, you're gonna need to go find a reiki master.

626
00:42:48,492.2032488 --> 00:42:52,872.2032488
You're gonna need to go find a, you know, maybe, um, somebody that.

627
00:42:54,342.2032488 --> 00:42:56,292.2032488
You know, as an authority figure in spirituality.

628
00:42:56,292.2032488 --> 00:43:17,772.2032488
So it's interesting to me because you've got, gotta know a little bit about what kinds of entities, the, what's the difference between a poltergeist and a, you know, just a, a trapped soul or dark energy or shadow figures or, um, what some people refer to as demons.

629
00:43:18,72.2032488 --> 00:43:18,552.2032488
Oh yeah.

630
00:43:18,702.2032488 --> 00:43:22,692.2032488
what that would actually be, if that was something so.

631
00:43:23,442.2032488 --> 00:43:35,547.2032488
Yeah, I think that the deep dive into some ghost movies could result in some very interesting conversation And it sounds like you are knowledgeable in these haunting types.

632
00:43:36,537.2032488 --> 00:43:39,132.2032488
Why don't, but how about, more.

633
00:43:39,432.2032488 --> 00:43:44,307.2032488
how about I dig up some movies for us and we start watching these and we do the Ghost movie project.

634
00:43:45,287.2032488 --> 00:43:48,507.2032488
It's on this wanted to try.

635
00:43:49,397.2032488 --> 00:43:50,257.2032488
You heard it here.

636
00:43:51,912.2032488 --> 00:43:54,972.2032488
I'm not picking stuff like Casper, the friendly ghost.

637
00:43:55,2.2032488 --> 00:43:56,832.2032488
I, these are gonna be some, some stuff.

638
00:43:57,72.2032488 --> 00:44:07,452.2032488
I mean, that right there from a 24 was uh, bring her back and the same directors for that did another a 24 flick called Talk to Me.

639
00:44:08,937.2032488 --> 00:44:09,972.2032488
That's gonna be on the list.

640
00:44:09,972.2032488 --> 00:44:10,902.2032488
I'm, I'm telling you right now.

641
00:44:10,902.2032488 --> 00:44:11,442.2032488
Talk to me.

642
00:44:11,442.2032488 --> 00:44:12,402.2032488
Will be on there.

643
00:44:13,662.2032488 --> 00:44:14,382.2032488
I loved it.

644
00:44:15,147.2032488 --> 00:44:17,997.2032488
I loved, I almost watched it last night, by the way.

645
00:44:17,997.2032488 --> 00:44:18,717.2032488
I, I did.

646
00:44:19,172.2032488 --> 00:44:20,997.2032488
I put it on, I had to We're gonna turn.

647
00:44:21,42.2032488 --> 00:44:22,302.2032488
good list together.

648
00:44:23,262.2032488 --> 00:44:34,572.2032488
And then we'll be able to deep dive into a couple of movies episode, and we'll talk about maybe the different types of hauntings, what we see going on in the movie.

649
00:44:34,932.2032488 --> 00:44:41,952.2032488
And then just for fun, because we like the horror movies, we'll just do deep dives into the movie themselves, the actors, the making of the movie.

650
00:44:41,952.2032488 --> 00:44:45,792.2032488
Any kind of cool and information we come across and it'll be, it'll be super fun.

651
00:44:46,227.2032488 --> 00:44:52,47.2032488
You know what? I think we should end it with? We did a live podcast taping last year.

652
00:44:52,797.2032488 --> 00:44:54,27.2032488
I got a different idea this year.

653
00:44:54,27.2032488 --> 00:44:54,747.2032488
Maybe we do.

654
00:44:54,777.2032488 --> 00:45:01,887.2032488
Maybe me and you hop on something like this and we just do it virtually where we watch a movie together.

655
00:45:02,637.2032488 --> 00:45:04,17.2032488
And we've got a chat going.

656
00:45:04,17.2032488 --> 00:45:05,157.2032488
We've got everything going.

657
00:45:05,157.2032488 --> 00:45:06,327.2032488
We got people in there with us.

658
00:45:06,807.2032488 --> 00:45:12,537.2032488
You can sit in the comfort of your own home, pop your own popcorn Oh and, and just enjoy it with us.

659
00:45:12,747.2032488 --> 00:45:13,887.2032488
I can get that set up.

660
00:45:14,607.2032488 --> 00:45:15,807.2032488
That'd be, that'd be fun.

661
00:45:15,807.2032488 --> 00:45:16,377.2032488
I think so.

662
00:45:16,377.2032488 --> 00:45:17,937.2032488
I think it'd be a little more comfortable.

663
00:45:18,417.2032488 --> 00:45:19,17.2032488
It's a lot of fun.

664
00:45:19,17.2032488 --> 00:45:20,877.2032488
Last, but I think that's.

665
00:45:21,462.2032488 --> 00:45:33,312.2032488
than your own house because you are sitting there at your own house watching a ghost movie and talk, and we're talking about what kinds of ghosts and entities that could be in your home.

666
00:45:33,642.2032488 --> 00:45:35,412.2032488
You are the one who's in your own home.

667
00:45:36,647.2032488 --> 00:45:37,122.2032488
That's it.

668
00:45:37,122.2032488 --> 00:45:37,722.2032488
I love that.

669
00:45:37,722.2032488 --> 00:45:38,922.2032488
I think that's the way we do it.

670
00:45:38,922.2032488 --> 00:45:44,202.2032488
And we'll do it on like Twitch or something where we show the movie and we, yeah, we got a live check going.

671
00:45:44,202.2032488 --> 00:45:44,862.2032488
I think that'd be fun.

672
00:45:44,892.2032488 --> 00:45:45,822.2032488
I think it'd be a lot of fun.

673
00:45:45,837.2032488 --> 00:45:46,407.2032488
a blast.

674
00:45:46,497.2032488 --> 00:45:47,22.2032488
Yeah.

675
00:45:47,322.2032488 --> 00:45:52,407.2032488
What else is going down for season three? You got anything else? Well, I think that about covers it.

676
00:45:52,437.2032488 --> 00:45:56,637.2032488
We're gonna do some, uh, some recording live on location.

677
00:45:57,147.2032488 --> 00:46:03,897.2032488
Ooh, So we've got some ideas for some, some special spots around, uh, locally here where we are.

678
00:46:04,377.2032488 --> 00:46:12,542.2032488
Uh, I mean if we had the funds, and by all means, listeners, you are welcome to send us the funds, but we can hop on a plane and come record where you are at if you would like us to.

679
00:46:13,407.2032488 --> 00:46:15,327.2032488
we might, you have, oh, we.

680
00:46:16,812.2032488 --> 00:46:19,62.2032488
That's one more idea I'm gonna have to put out there right now.

681
00:46:19,62.2032488 --> 00:46:29,622.2032488
We will have to find one of these movies filming locations and we'll go do our show there because that's what we did in the Witch movie project.

682
00:46:29,622.2032488 --> 00:46:36,312.2032488
We went out to the cemetery where Ari Oster asked her filmed, what was the movie, hereditary? We Yeah.

683
00:46:36,312.2032488 --> 00:46:38,442.2032488
sat there in that same spot, like we're gonna have to find.

684
00:46:38,742.2032488 --> 00:46:45,432.2032488
of horror movies around here because, um, let's just face it, Utah has a lot of really dark history It does.

685
00:46:45,582.2032488 --> 00:46:56,232.2032488
there is a reason a lot of those ghost hunters and ghost adventure shows and dead files, they have had to record at locations here in Utah, uh, several places here in Utah.

686
00:46:56,232.2032488 --> 00:46:58,932.2032488
So we, we have a good history of hauntings here.

687
00:46:59,442.2032488 --> 00:47:00,252.2032488
I'm gonna find this one.

688
00:47:00,342.2032488 --> 00:47:01,452.2032488
I'll find us a place.

689
00:47:01,632.2032488 --> 00:47:03,312.2032488
I'll step back.

690
00:47:03,312.2032488 --> 00:47:05,322.2032488
I'll let you wrap up your own show.

691
00:47:05,322.2032488 --> 00:47:06,342.2032488
Don't let me take over.

692
00:47:07,812.2032488 --> 00:47:08,232.2032488
All right.

693
00:47:08,232.2032488 --> 00:47:11,217.2032488
Well thank you so much to ride the Wave Media obviously here.

694
00:47:12,207.2032488 --> 00:47:15,267.2032488
Us today, um, for producing this podcast.

695
00:47:15,327.2032488 --> 00:47:19,677.2032488
And, um, thank you to, uh, our sponsor, prism Healing.

696
00:47:19,797.2032488 --> 00:47:20,187.2032488
That's me.

697
00:47:21,87.2032488 --> 00:47:24,837.2032488
If you wanna book a session with me, prism healing.com,

698
00:47:25,317.2032488 --> 00:47:33,807.2032488
uh, you can go to and you can find all this really cool stuff and show notes and resources that we've, we've mentioned here today at the Practically Magic website.

699
00:47:34,47.2032488 --> 00:47:36,987.2032488
Practically Magic.

700
00:47:37,197.2032488 --> 00:47:38,277.2032488
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701
00:47:39,282.2032488 --> 00:47:41,622.2032488
Dot com and that's where you can find us.

702
00:47:41,652.2032488 --> 00:47:48,462.2032488
And if you're interested in being a sponsor or if you are just a listener who wants to buy us a coffee, there is a button for that on that website.

703
00:47:49,242.2032488 --> 00:47:50,442.2032488
would really appreciate it.

704
00:47:50,797.2032488 --> 00:47:59,202.2032488
There is somebody, did somebody sent it $5 for a coffee for you? Thank you It was You have anonymous, it was how much of a treat that is for me.

705
00:47:59,982.2032488 --> 00:48:00,732.2032488
$5.

706
00:48:00,732.2032488 --> 00:48:03,432.2032488
We'll have to go down to ground to Earth, or Land of a thousand Hills.

707
00:48:03,432.2032488 --> 00:48:08,827.2032488
That's our local favorite coffee shops and me and you have to split that $5 cup 'cause Yeah.

708
00:48:08,832.2032488 --> 00:48:09,672.2032488
Yeah, we'll just get it.

709
00:48:09,702.2032488 --> 00:48:11,352.2032488
We get a little kids cup.

710
00:48:11,442.2032488 --> 00:48:11,952.2032488
You get one.

711
00:48:11,952.2032488 --> 00:48:12,522.2032488
I get one.

712
00:48:12,552.2032488 --> 00:48:13,272.2032488
We split it.

713
00:48:13,512.2032488 --> 00:48:14,142.2032488
It'll be great.

714
00:48:14,292.2032488 --> 00:48:14,892.2032488
It'll be fine.

715
00:48:15,252.2032488 --> 00:48:17,957.2032488
Those paper espresso cups is what we'll use those.

716
00:48:17,982.2032488 --> 00:48:18,342.2032488
Yeah.

717
00:48:18,697.2032488 --> 00:48:19,507.2032488
Yeah, I'm down.

718
00:48:19,992.2032488 --> 00:48:30,942.2032488
And if you're missing me at all during the summer, want a card reading? Um, you can follow me on TikTok at Prism Healing because I do live card readings on Instagram and at TikTok, uh, randomly throughout the week.

719
00:48:30,942.2032488 --> 00:48:36,72.2032488
So that's where I will be when I'm not here working on practically magic.

720
00:48:38,37.2032488 --> 00:48:38,447.2032488
Love it.

721
00:48:39,117.2032488 --> 00:48:39,547.2032488
Thank you.

722
00:48:39,847.2032488 --> 00:48:42,792.2032488
Alright, make Magic Witches and Wizards.

723
00:48:44,997.2032488 --> 00:48:45,657.2032488
And stop.

724
00:48:45,657.2032488 --> 00:48:46,167.2032488
That was fun.