Tattoos and Tarot: Bridging Ancestral Wisdom into Modern Art

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Hello, and welcome to Practically Magic.

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I am Courtney Pearl, your Celtic
priestess and ancestral healer.

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Today is going to be a very,
very extra special episode.

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You are going to be particularly
interested if you are watching the video.

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So if you typically listen on audio,
I would suggest popping over or

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late waiting till later and go check
out the video on YouTube because.

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I am going to be taking this podcast to my
tattoo artist for my tattoo appointment.

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I know when I first started seeing
Liberty, we just had so much in common and

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so many really cool in-depth conversations
about spirituality and ancestral

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healing and connection and traditions.

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And I was like, why am
I not recording this?

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This is excellent stuff.

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So while I, uh, made an appointment to go
in today, I reached out to her and said,

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would you be a guest on my podcast and
record with me while you are tattooing me?

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Oh.

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Fantastic.

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So this is actually going to be
a really cool episode, and we're

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going to head there next, but what
I'm gonna do before we do that is

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pull a card for today's episode.

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I'm actually gonna pull two cards
for this episode today because I

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am gonna pull out my magical Nordic
tarot deck as we're talking about

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ancestral things a little bit.

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Um.

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And that will come up, uh, along with
many other things that we're just gonna

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see where the conversation takes us.

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But I have some Nordic
ancestry and so does Liberty.

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We've talked about that before.

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So I want to pull a card from
this particular deck, and then I'm

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also going to pull a card from one
of my new Oracle decks, so, Hmm.

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Very interesting.

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The card that we have for today's episode
is going to be the two of wands, and

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the word that this particular deck has
associated with the two of wands is unity.

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So in that aspect, it's gonna be
very fascinating to see all of these.

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All of these aspects of our lives
that we find separated or in conflict

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with each other are coming into
a phase of really being united.

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Um.

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It's interesting because even Liberty will
talk a little bit about her ancestral,

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uh, past and how she comes from on
her father's side and her mother's

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side come from very different parts
of the world and um, obviously came in

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connection for her to become who she is.

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A lot of people are coming into
connection, not just um, from a cultural

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aspect or an ancestral aspect, but we're
also talking a lot right now about the

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unity between the ancestral practices
or remembering and reclaiming that.

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In combination with modern day things
in coming into, what does that look

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like for us in a, as we navigate this
modern world, as we come into the

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age of information and technology?

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And then, you know, and then beyond
that, where is this all leading us to?

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So the, the two of ones I often
associate with beginnings of

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things and these duality of
things, and in particular, the one.

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Uh, part of the tarot I associate
with the error element or

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communication and mentality.

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So I think for me, I am reading this
card to be a message to you that

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things that were previously seen as
opposites, or it's either this way or

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this way, you are going to come into
a space of unity with those two ideas.

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That it isn't one or the
other, that sometimes it's.

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Some in between.

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Some both aspect of this.

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The pendulum that swung far out one
way or swung far out another way.

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It's gonna come into balance a
little bit more with those two

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dualities, especially when coming
to the idea of those two ideas.

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It's gonna come together.

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Now the.

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Other deck I have for us today
is gonna be the healing spirits.

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I just got this deck recently and this
is an Oracle deck, so it's going to be

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very, um, very plain and clear about which
card it's going to bring forward for us.

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Um, these ones actually just have a
phrase on the card, so you don't have

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to do a whole lot of, uh, reading into
it, but it's gonna tell you something.

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So what I've pulled for us today.

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I will show you on video
what this card looks like.

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It has a lot of red, it has kind
of, uh, what looks to be a younger

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child's soul in all of this red,
ethereal, um, sort of image.

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And then it has kind of what I perceive
to be an older person or an older soul

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that's like guiding the younger soul.

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And it says.

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It is always okay to ask for
guidance when the way is unclear.

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We cannot do this journey alone.

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I think that tapping into your
own intuition and your own

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connections is really powerful.

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It's very empowering and I hope
that in the work that I do, I am

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more someone who can help people be
empowered to make choices and to know

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their path for themselves, but also.

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The realm of guidance and people
who can guide us exists too.

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My job or my purpose, or fulfilling my
role and calling in this world is not

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to say I know better than anyone else,
but that that because of the knowledge

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and experience that I have put at
the forefront of my life, hopefully

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gives me some abilities and some gifts
to be able to guide people through.

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And so I am not always gonna know the
right and clear path for me because

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I have my own ego and I have my own
traumas and experiences that ca,

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that catch me in my, in my journey
and make me feel lost or confused.

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Um, I cannot see all solutions.

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I cannot see all paths.

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So I. I have to be willing to set my
ego aside at times and be able to say,

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I'm going to need some guidance or
help in this, and seeking a healer,

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seeking a professional, or seeking a
guide in something that I need to do.

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So don't be afraid if at any point
you feel like I've done all of this

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healing work, I've done a lot on
myself to empower myself and to feel

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like I know what's right for me.

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But when I come up again,
something I. Don't know what to

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do or I feel out of my element.

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Don't be afraid to reach out and it may
be reaching out to something or someone

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that is not in this physical realm.

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Spirit guides your angels.

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Whatever you particularly happen
to believe in, they are there for

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the purpose of guiding you as well.

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Um, so that's what I think that
card is going to give us a sense

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of today as we go into our.

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Let's go on over to the
appointment this morning.

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We're gonna go over to Exodus that is
over in South Jordan on Redwood Road,

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and we are going to meet with Liberty.

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I'm so excited.

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Here we go.

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This is Liberty.

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She's gonna be doing my tattoo today.

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My tattoo.

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That's not here, then we're, it's not.

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I'm just

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kidding.

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It's a, that's a figment
of your imagination.

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Alright, one second.

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This will be great.

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A lot of people though, have
been telling me, they're like,

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oh my gosh, that's fresh.

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That looks so good.

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How do you notice you feel about it?

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I feel great about it.

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Good.

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I, I think there was just like maybe
a day or a moment after I first got

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both of them, I think that I was like.

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Oh my gosh, these are
on my body now forever.

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There was just this like almost

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regret, like a paying it.

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Like it's, yeah, but it's not

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regret.

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'cause I'm like, I, I
know I don't regret it.

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Mm-hmm.

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But there was just this like,
that's, that wasn't on my body

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before and now it is forever, I feel

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like.

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So for us, us, oh man, here I go.

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For us who are a little bit, uh, twisted.

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That's fair.

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It's, it's like an addiction because
you almost get adjusted to it.

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Okay.

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And then you kind of just keep building
like, and you're like, what else?

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Yeah, it's what's next?

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It's almost like you are blind to
what you already have, and then you're

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like, oh, but I need to have something.

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And then you become blind to that and
then, oh, I need to have something.

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And then you're blind to that
and then before you know it,

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okay, you're, that makes sense.

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You're covered with sharks and, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I can see it.

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Ready?

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Yes.

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Now I know what to expect.

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Mm-hmm.

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So

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remind me was, is this your first tattoo?

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This is my first tattoo I have

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to, uh, catch myself on.

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So remind me, we are
working on my first tattoo.

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Yeah.

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What's your, uh,

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remind me what your initial
purpose for this is.

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Yeah, why?

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So this is the one that I've had on the,
on my idea for the last 10 years probably.

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I have this necklace.

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So for those of you who just listen
to audio only, this episode's going

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to be a a go to YouTube episode.

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You're gonna need to go
see what we're doing.

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I had a Celtic tree, um necklace.

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That I loved for a long time.

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I actually lost the original, this is
the second one, but loved the design,

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loved the imagery of it, and then I
started getting into Celtic Spirituality

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and mythology, and then it was like,
I've gotta have this on my body.

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So it took this long for me to finally do
it, and I needed to find an artist that

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I felt understood the initiation process.

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Which is why I went to Liberty.

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She understands cultural tattoos.

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Do you wanna tell a little
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that?

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The initiation process is such
a cultural phenomenon that we

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kinda left behind, isn't it?

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Mm-hmm.

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In a way, you know, it's not socially
practiced anymore on like the large scale.

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yeah.

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But you probably get even people
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themselves as spiritual or Oh, right.

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When they do get a tattoo and they maybe
initially did it just for aesthetics.

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Mm-hmm.

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It is.

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I I think they go through initiation.

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I think so too.

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Getting a tattoo,

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you know, your sphere, your social, um,
you know, your people, your tribe that

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you have built up and then you go get
a marking and you, they acknowledge it.

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Right.

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Is that not the basis
of like a initiation?

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Mm-hmm.

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So my

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connection to this practice
is, um, so I've been an

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artist since I, my whole life.

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Um, and I, um, my dad's from
Tonga and my mom is from Utah.

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Her family's been here for some time.

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You know, very,

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how would you say.

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Uh, Caucasian.

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You know, that's, you
know, the, it's okay.

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You can say whitewashed.

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Uh, yeah.

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And, and here's thing, vanilla.

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I'm just kidding.

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I think that's me.

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Think, you know, my family's been
in Utah for some time and mm-hmm.

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They have, they have a
rich, beautiful history.

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Right.

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It's, there's a lot of darkness
in that too, but like, I don't

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know, as, as all cultures do.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, I, I'm not gonna discount
one side over the other.

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For sure.

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I think, um, I don't know, there's a lot
of, I'm not quite sure how to word that.

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Uh, there's a lot of conversations to
be had in that subject, isn't there?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Which is why I have like 50 episodes
of my podcast to talk about.

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I can spur

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off in so many different
ways with this, but um,

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it's complex

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for sure.

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It's complex.

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Yes.

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My, my purpose for tattooing is
connected more to my father's.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, culture, which is, you know, Tonga
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lost practice in our culture from the
last 200 years and, and me getting into

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tattooing was kind of a calling, if you
will, to use my talents and my skillset.

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To help bring something back.

241
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Mm-hmm.

242
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And in that, in, um, you know, doing
something for that part of my culture,

243
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uh, I found kind of like just the
connection to all humanity, right?

244
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Yes.

245
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Like we've all had, we all have
ancestors who did this at one point.

246
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It's not just one culture.

247
00:14:27,858 --> 00:14:32,268
It's, yes, it's, it's
a culture of humankind.

248
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Yeah, to practice something marking,
initiation, you know, marking the

249
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body and it, it's like drumming.

250
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Yeah.

251
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You, you can't find a culture that in
sound, you know, you go back far enough.

252
00:14:44,058 --> 00:14:47,928
Drumming was an incredibly
spiritual practice of, yeah.

253
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Connecting with the sound
and a, a beat, a heartbeat,

254
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a beat within a community, right?

255
00:14:54,648 --> 00:14:54,738
Mm-hmm.

256
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It's like a mm-hmm.

257
00:14:56,808 --> 00:14:57,618
Yeah, exactly.

258
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Dance, music, art.

259
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I think that those are symptoms
of humankind From the beginning

260
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I felt that the, everyone is kind of
going through a shift of reclaiming that.

261
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Yes.

262
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And if they're not, I feel
like they're resisting it.

263
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Mm-hmm.

264
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Hardcore.

265
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Right.

266
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But for those who are awakened to it,
those that are like willing to see that

267
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they're wanting to reengage with those
like ancient practices of their people.

268
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Mm-hmm.

269
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And like mm-hmm.

270
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I'm going, I wanna reclaim that.

271
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I wanna remember what that was.

272
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I think there's a lot of us who, who

273
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feels it still within us?

274
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We feel something that's not being
practiced and we're drawn to it.

275
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You know, you know, you, you,
you have a talent, right?

276
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If you, if you tend to, oh, I
see a drawing that I really like.

277
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Oh, I wanna recreate that.

278
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And you try to find a way
within yourself to create it.

279
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That's.

280
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Honing a skill.

281
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It's honing an art that's, you know,
but like I think there's a lot of

282
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dormant cultural practice that we
feel, and it comes out in skillset.

283
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It's

284
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still alive in us.

285
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Yes.

286
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And we're just trying to find it.

287
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And it's drives purpose and passion.

288
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Yeah.

289
00:16:18,513 --> 00:16:20,913
I've been having conversations
like that a lot with people,

290
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especially because we are the.

291
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Daybreak network.

292
00:16:23,913 --> 00:16:24,093
Mm-hmm.

293
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There's a lot of people starting their
own things and leaving their corporate

294
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jobs or, and they're like, I know I can
make money doing this or like having

295
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this job, but there's so many that
are coming to us in our groups and

296
00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:41,468
community and saying, I just feel a
passion for this, and I like, there's

297
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the money I really wanna drive anymore.

298
00:16:43,653 --> 00:16:44,973
It's, it's something deeper.

299
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Yeah.

300
00:16:45,753 --> 00:16:47,883
And we're all tired, I
think, of sacrificing.

301
00:16:48,858 --> 00:16:50,358
Well, let's think about our purpose.

302
00:16:50,358 --> 00:16:55,788
That's a whole other deep, deep rabbit
hole we could follow down is, is like how

303
00:16:55,788 --> 00:16:58,218
unnatural it is to live the way we are.

304
00:16:58,788 --> 00:17:01,038
You know, we're raised to
believe we should be living.

305
00:17:01,488 --> 00:17:01,578
Mm-hmm.

306
00:17:02,118 --> 00:17:04,728
Working to retire one
day and eventually live.

307
00:17:05,828 --> 00:17:06,248
Mm-hmm.

308
00:17:06,783 --> 00:17:07,323
I don't, I don't know.

309
00:17:07,323 --> 00:17:10,113
I think that's, um, a
backwards way of thinking.

310
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Yeah.

311
00:17:11,073 --> 00:17:12,513
That's like the parable.

312
00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:15,903
Uh, maybe I told you this,
the one with the, the fishing,

313
00:17:15,903 --> 00:17:17,613
the guys fishing, oh, I dunno.

314
00:17:17,643 --> 00:17:19,323
I'm gonna mess it up 'cause
I'm trying to remember it.

315
00:17:20,013 --> 00:17:23,223
But they, you know, there's, I
think there's like a group of

316
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guys in, in Italy or something
and they, they fish all morning.

317
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They sell their fish in the afternoon
and then, you know, they hang out with

318
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their families and they, you know.

319
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Do their thing.

320
00:17:36,243 --> 00:17:41,583
And these like, uh, businessmen
come and say, you know, if you

321
00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:47,193
fish all day, you would have enough
money to buy a boat and hire some

322
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people and then start your company.

323
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And then you would have this,
and you'd have this, and you know

324
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this, like if you just work harder.

325
00:17:55,023 --> 00:18:00,243
Um, and then you'd have, you know,
a million dollars and sell your

326
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company event, you know, one day.

327
00:18:01,893 --> 00:18:02,508
And then they were like.

328
00:18:02,898 --> 00:18:03,738
And then what?

329
00:18:04,608 --> 00:18:05,448
What would I do then?

330
00:18:05,598 --> 00:18:08,628
And they're like, well, then
you could just like fish for

331
00:18:08,628 --> 00:18:10,398
half the day, shoot what you're
doing, hang out with your family.

332
00:18:11,238 --> 00:18:13,038
And they're like, we do that anyway.

333
00:18:13,038 --> 00:18:16,338
We're just gonna keep
doing that and be happy.

334
00:18:18,288 --> 00:18:20,958
I think that that's actually
just something very relatable

335
00:18:20,988 --> 00:18:22,908
within like my culture is

336
00:18:25,728 --> 00:18:27,258
in, in the islands.

337
00:18:28,218 --> 00:18:30,858
You know, particularly, I'm gonna
speak on my father's behalf.

338
00:18:31,593 --> 00:18:38,163
Um, he grew up in a thatched hut,
like, you know, in, he grew up in

339
00:18:38,163 --> 00:18:42,033
a pre-modern experience society.

340
00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:47,343
Um, when he came to the US in
the seventies, you know, he

341
00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:50,133
left, he had left that home.

342
00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:50,134
Um,

343
00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:58,083
he had left his community with it looking
one way, and now he hasn't been back.

344
00:18:58,293 --> 00:18:58,353
Wow.

345
00:18:58,983 --> 00:19:02,673
You know, now you can see it on
Google Maps and stuff, and, and

346
00:19:02,673 --> 00:19:06,378
it's, it's almost like an entirely
different, it's modernized, you

347
00:19:06,378 --> 00:19:07,743
know, it's, it's something new.

348
00:19:07,743 --> 00:19:13,383
And I think, I can't help but think,
you know, we've had these conversations,

349
00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:19,833
um, with my, my father where, you know,
it was a simple life and he worked

350
00:19:19,833 --> 00:19:25,413
so hard to build something modern and
this new legacy for his family and.

351
00:19:27,078 --> 00:19:31,218
You know, now we all talk about, let's
go and do this basic, simple living.

352
00:19:31,218 --> 00:19:31,698
Yeah.

353
00:19:31,758 --> 00:19:34,728
Let's go live in a bad
house and hang out on

354
00:19:34,728 --> 00:19:35,238
beaches.

355
00:19:35,238 --> 00:19:35,388
And

356
00:19:36,228 --> 00:19:36,528
that

357
00:19:36,528 --> 00:19:37,278
is the dream.

358
00:19:37,278 --> 00:19:37,488
Right?

359
00:19:37,848 --> 00:19:42,948
You know, when I was younger, sign me up,
engaged and about ready to start my life.

360
00:19:43,638 --> 00:19:47,208
I had spoken to my dad about, oh, I would
like to go to Thena for our honeymoon.

361
00:19:47,208 --> 00:19:48,468
He is like, you don't wanna go there.

362
00:19:48,468 --> 00:19:50,478
That's you're, you live in paradise.

363
00:19:50,478 --> 00:19:51,768
Why would you wanna go there?

364
00:19:52,593 --> 00:19:55,413
But it's like my view of Oma is paradise.

365
00:19:55,588 --> 00:19:55,628
Paradise.

366
00:19:55,633 --> 00:19:58,923
His view is he, he kind of got
away from it to get to paradise.

367
00:19:58,923 --> 00:20:00,003
This is his paradise.

368
00:20:00,243 --> 00:20:00,543
Yeah.

369
00:20:00,543 --> 00:20:03,543
So it's a very, you can of modern
living and stuff, but you, I can see

370
00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:07,743
both perspectives and that's, you know,
again, the grass is always greener Right.

371
00:20:07,743 --> 00:20:08,433
Kind of a thing.

372
00:20:08,643 --> 00:20:08,733
Mm-hmm.

373
00:20:09,693 --> 00:20:13,023
But we're all trained to re reclaim.

374
00:20:13,608 --> 00:20:17,298
That and get back to that and be
like, remember when we didn't have

375
00:20:17,298 --> 00:20:21,288
bones that could get a hold of
us, like everywhere all the time?

376
00:20:21,288 --> 00:20:21,558
You know?

377
00:20:21,918 --> 00:20:22,008
Right.

378
00:20:22,128 --> 00:20:25,518
Just kind of that unplug is our vacation,

379
00:20:25,998 --> 00:20:30,678
but when you live in that, completely
unplugged from the modern, you

380
00:20:30,678 --> 00:20:35,718
know, the what's considered to
be upscale, modern first world.

381
00:20:35,778 --> 00:20:35,898
Mm-hmm.

382
00:20:36,138 --> 00:20:39,558
It you, you are living, you are a
have not you, you are living without.

383
00:20:39,588 --> 00:20:39,858
Yeah.

384
00:20:40,338 --> 00:20:43,848
So your dream is to have what
the rest of the world Yeah.

385
00:20:43,878 --> 00:20:46,458
You know, this upper level of living has.

386
00:20:46,998 --> 00:20:49,758
But you know, I think it's the
concept of who has the upper

387
00:20:49,758 --> 00:20:52,848
living, who actually is living Yeah.

388
00:20:52,878 --> 00:20:55,278
Versus working to live, I don't know.

389
00:20:55,848 --> 00:20:56,508
Very true.

390
00:20:57,378 --> 00:20:58,938
And that's, you know, balance.

391
00:21:00,078 --> 00:21:05,748
Hopeful we can get back to balance where
we swing the pendulum too far one way.

392
00:21:06,138 --> 00:21:06,468
Yeah.

393
00:21:06,528 --> 00:21:06,888
Right.

394
00:21:07,548 --> 00:21:09,258
And you, uh, did.

395
00:21:10,098 --> 00:21:16,038
Did you tell me that you had gotten a
tattoo like in the old traditional way?

396
00:21:16,038 --> 00:21:19,668
Yes, so that's actually something
that was like a catalyst in

397
00:21:19,668 --> 00:21:21,708
getting me into the tattoo world.

398
00:21:23,418 --> 00:21:27,198
So being an artist my whole life,
I kind of always just avoided it.

399
00:21:27,288 --> 00:21:31,278
The tattoo industry seemed so
unappealing to me, too dark, too

400
00:21:31,278 --> 00:21:36,798
angry to this, to that, that which
I just knew with my personality.

401
00:21:36,888 --> 00:21:40,938
Yeah, the struggles of my life that
that wasn't the type of energy I

402
00:21:40,938 --> 00:21:45,258
wanted to be in, because being in
that energy would make me that energy.

403
00:21:45,258 --> 00:21:46,158
Mm-hmm.

404
00:21:46,164 --> 00:21:47,568
So I was just kind of avoided it.

405
00:21:47,688 --> 00:21:50,433
People would tell me all the time,
you need to tattoo, you should, you

406
00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:52,338
need to bring your talent into this.

407
00:21:53,118 --> 00:21:56,478
But I, I literally just like
avoided it like the plague.

408
00:21:57,978 --> 00:22:01,458
Um, then, so growing up.

409
00:22:03,018 --> 00:22:08,088
It's always been a conversation piece
in the Polynesian community here in

410
00:22:08,088 --> 00:22:13,908
Utah and maybe mostly the the Hakai,
which are the Half Bloods, gans, US

411
00:22:13,908 --> 00:22:17,958
Half Bloods, always wishing to have a
connection to this, you know, culture.

412
00:22:18,528 --> 00:22:21,078
But there's always been
murmurs and in talks of.

413
00:22:22,143 --> 00:22:26,253
People bringing back the old way, the old
traditional way of tattooing, which was

414
00:22:26,253 --> 00:22:28,623
tapping hand, tapping hand taps, tattoos.

415
00:22:29,308 --> 00:22:29,598
Yeah.

416
00:22:31,023 --> 00:22:35,793
And you know, me being in Utah, not
growing up in, in the islands, not

417
00:22:35,793 --> 00:22:40,263
growing up in Hawaii, I always heard
of these things, these people doing it

418
00:22:40,263 --> 00:22:43,563
and just looking up to it, you know,
my brothers and I would talk about it.

419
00:22:44,283 --> 00:22:49,803
Um, and then I'm trying to
figure out how this went.

420
00:22:50,718 --> 00:22:55,038
In 2020, we had a trip to
Hawaii planned, but of course

421
00:22:55,038 --> 00:22:56,868
it got canceled because mm-hmm.

422
00:22:57,528 --> 00:22:59,553
The world experienced
covid the apocalypse.

423
00:22:59,553 --> 00:22:59,713
Yeah.

424
00:22:59,713 --> 00:23:00,033
Mm-hmm.

425
00:23:01,373 --> 00:23:06,378
Um, and so in 2021, was it 2021 or 2022?

426
00:23:06,378 --> 00:23:07,068
I don't remember.

427
00:23:09,228 --> 00:23:12,948
We finally had that trip,
and during that time, I was

428
00:23:12,948 --> 00:23:14,538
thinking during the time of not.

429
00:23:15,663 --> 00:23:16,563
Living in the world.

430
00:23:16,563 --> 00:23:16,833
Right.

431
00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:20,283
With, with Covid happening, I kind of
knew I wanna do something significant

432
00:23:20,283 --> 00:23:21,633
when I finally do make it back.

433
00:23:22,563 --> 00:23:27,153
So in 2021, when I, we planned our trip,
we kind of made a last minute plan.

434
00:23:27,153 --> 00:23:30,753
It was January when we made the plan
and the tickets were from March.

435
00:23:31,623 --> 00:23:35,433
It was kind of a quick
turnaround ish for us anyways.

436
00:23:35,643 --> 00:23:36,093
Mm-hmm.

437
00:23:36,198 --> 00:23:41,643
Um, I had kind of on a whim
just looked up if there was

438
00:23:42,093 --> 00:23:43,953
traditional tattoos happening.

439
00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:49,773
Uh, in Hawaii, in Oahu, when, when we
were going and I saw that there was,

440
00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:53,013
and so I just started reaching out.

441
00:23:53,343 --> 00:23:55,773
Um, my first choice was to Keone Nunes.

442
00:23:56,343 --> 00:23:56,883
Nunes.

443
00:23:57,753 --> 00:24:03,333
Um, I reached out to him to see if he
was doing it and had an availability and.

444
00:24:04,533 --> 00:24:07,473
He responded back very quickly
and said, unfortunately, he

445
00:24:07,473 --> 00:24:08,163
doesn't live there anymore.

446
00:24:08,163 --> 00:24:09,993
He lives in Thailand,
you know, but Oh wow.

447
00:24:10,173 --> 00:24:13,713
But that response, like, that choice
to send that message and then his quick

448
00:24:13,713 --> 00:24:18,513
response was kind of the kickoff to
finding that he has a graduate doing

449
00:24:18,513 --> 00:24:22,593
it there and, um, to reach out to him.

450
00:24:22,593 --> 00:24:29,583
So I did, I reached out to
Kamala and, um, he, we kind of

451
00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:32,733
in, we, we began the process.

452
00:24:34,428 --> 00:24:42,048
To his protocol, their protocol,
um, to receive my markings.

453
00:24:42,798 --> 00:24:49,698
Uh, ultimately I did, you know, I,
I got to experience, um, the office

454
00:24:49,698 --> 00:24:54,198
ceremony and laying on the mat and
receiving my markings and, you know,

455
00:24:54,378 --> 00:24:59,538
understanding how the markings symbolize
my journey in this world and my

456
00:24:59,538 --> 00:25:02,208
lineage and connection to the land and.

457
00:25:02,973 --> 00:25:04,083
My purpose.

458
00:25:04,293 --> 00:25:09,693
Um, so yeah, it was, uh,
a rebirth, if you will.

459
00:25:10,503 --> 00:25:11,313
Yes.

460
00:25:11,373 --> 00:25:17,073
And um, when I left, I remember sending
a message when I came home, sorry.

461
00:25:17,313 --> 00:25:22,053
Uh, I remember sending a message
to Kiana saying, I hope you choose,

462
00:25:22,143 --> 00:25:28,143
like you teach somebody in the Tongan
community so that we can revive it

463
00:25:28,893 --> 00:25:30,633
within our, this community, you know?

464
00:25:31,023 --> 00:25:31,323
Yeah.

465
00:25:32,058 --> 00:25:32,808
And, um,

466
00:25:34,878 --> 00:25:39,108
literally after pushing
send, I was sitting there

467
00:25:41,688 --> 00:25:44,958
realizing, oh, that needs to be me.

468
00:25:45,258 --> 00:25:47,178
Like I, I just need to do this.

469
00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:55,338
So calling, yeah, that was, that was my
second rebirth moment was, oh, I do belong

470
00:25:55,338 --> 00:25:57,408
in this situation, in this industry.

471
00:25:57,978 --> 00:25:59,178
I do have a purpose in this.

472
00:26:00,243 --> 00:26:05,253
I have skill sets that can
get me somewhere, that can do

473
00:26:05,253 --> 00:26:06,843
something for my community.

474
00:26:06,843 --> 00:26:12,753
And you know, before I feel like it was
a little bit skewed to just my community.

475
00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:13,743
Mm-hmm.

476
00:26:13,748 --> 00:26:17,253
Now being, you know, getting a great
apprenticeship with a great group of

477
00:26:17,253 --> 00:26:22,773
artists here at Exodus Tattoo, I, um,
realize it's not just my community,

478
00:26:22,833 --> 00:26:25,173
you know, my Tongan community.

479
00:26:25,173 --> 00:26:27,033
It's a much broader

480
00:26:27,033 --> 00:26:27,693
mm-hmm.

481
00:26:28,098 --> 00:26:32,058
Uh, experience of just human,
human culture, you know?

482
00:26:32,298 --> 00:26:32,688
Yeah.

483
00:26:32,688 --> 00:26:38,058
So, and that's my Seeking someone
out was more like, I need someone

484
00:26:38,628 --> 00:26:43,788
I know and feel, and trust
understands that, that part of it.

485
00:26:43,788 --> 00:26:47,838
So even not even knowing all of
that, which I did not know, but

486
00:26:47,838 --> 00:26:51,378
I'm like, I know that this is going
to be the experience I wanna have,

487
00:26:51,528 --> 00:26:53,448
and this is, you know, I've waited.

488
00:26:53,448 --> 00:26:55,848
How did, how did you know that love?

489
00:26:57,168 --> 00:26:59,748
Well, I think in just seeing some
of the art that you'd already

490
00:26:59,748 --> 00:27:03,708
done, some, uh, tattoos that
you'd done, I was like, oh, okay.

491
00:27:04,038 --> 00:27:04,548
Okay.

492
00:27:04,788 --> 00:27:05,568
I, I'm ready.

493
00:27:05,573 --> 00:27:06,198
She's on the same, this is it.

494
00:27:06,198 --> 00:27:06,468
Yeah.

495
00:27:06,528 --> 00:27:09,018
Like, I'm ready to, to
get this on the schedule.

496
00:27:10,278 --> 00:27:12,288
I had said I was gonna get a tattoo.

497
00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,898
The tattoos I'd wanted
for a long time already.

498
00:27:15,108 --> 00:27:17,418
Um, I'm like, 2024 is my year.

499
00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:17,958
I'm doing it.

500
00:27:17,958 --> 00:27:18,048
Mm-hmm.

501
00:27:18,633 --> 00:27:22,173
And then 2024 came and went and,
you know, new Year's happened

502
00:27:22,173 --> 00:27:23,463
and I was like, oh shoot.

503
00:27:23,703 --> 00:27:24,813
Oh, will that one, whoops.

504
00:27:24,933 --> 00:27:24,993
Yeah.

505
00:27:25,233 --> 00:27:29,283
I didn't even make, I didn't even keep
the promise to myself, so it was kind

506
00:27:29,283 --> 00:27:31,353
of just like, okay, it's happening.

507
00:27:31,353 --> 00:27:32,283
It's gotta happen now.

508
00:27:32,583 --> 00:27:32,673
Mm-hmm.

509
00:27:32,913 --> 00:27:32,918
I have to do this.

510
00:27:32,923 --> 00:27:33,333
Did you see in the

511
00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:34,323
daybreak page is that,

512
00:27:34,683 --> 00:27:39,393
um, one of my, our mutual friends had
dinner, a tattoo with you and, uh, I

513
00:27:39,393 --> 00:27:44,553
think they posted pictures and, and then
I think I just started looking at your.

514
00:27:45,588 --> 00:27:49,248
Stuff off your profile and pictures
and stuff, and I thought, okay, good.

515
00:27:49,308 --> 00:27:50,178
This feels right.

516
00:27:50,178 --> 00:27:51,138
Mm-hmm.

517
00:27:51,139 --> 00:27:54,528
Um, not that I could, like in
my Celtic spirituality, go out

518
00:27:54,528 --> 00:27:56,148
and find a Celtic tattoo artist.

519
00:27:56,148 --> 00:27:56,238
Right.

520
00:27:56,238 --> 00:27:58,788
I mean, maybe they probably are out there.

521
00:27:58,788 --> 00:27:58,998
Yeah.

522
00:27:58,998 --> 00:27:59,748
Maybe.

523
00:28:00,168 --> 00:28:02,628
But like you said, it's human.

524
00:28:02,868 --> 00:28:03,168
Yeah.

525
00:28:03,258 --> 00:28:07,458
Um, you know, and I would never
come and get a Tongan tattoo Right.

526
00:28:07,518 --> 00:28:08,988
When I'm not Tongan.

527
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:12,618
So I wanted to be respectful
of, you know, and someone who

528
00:28:12,618 --> 00:28:13,713
understands that that's mm-hmm.

529
00:28:13,713 --> 00:28:18,033
S you know, respectful of our ancestral
heritage and where we come from.

530
00:28:18,033 --> 00:28:21,873
And, um, but it was like that for me too.

531
00:28:22,263 --> 00:28:27,513
I see a lot of people, a rebirth,
like a, um, for me, I had set

532
00:28:27,513 --> 00:28:32,793
certain standards about my work as a
priestess and like I wasn't just gonna

533
00:28:32,793 --> 00:28:34,743
go out and get these tattoos just

534
00:28:35,403 --> 00:28:35,673
for men.

535
00:28:36,093 --> 00:28:38,043
Like, here, I'm gonna
give you these markings.

536
00:28:38,253 --> 00:28:38,583
Yeah.

537
00:28:38,763 --> 00:28:41,343
You need to find somebody who
like treats them as sacred

538
00:28:41,343 --> 00:28:42,033
as you treat

539
00:28:42,033 --> 00:28:42,123
them.

540
00:28:42,128 --> 00:28:42,548
Mm-hmm.

541
00:28:42,878 --> 00:28:43,228
Right.

542
00:28:44,103 --> 00:28:44,523
Yeah.

543
00:28:44,673 --> 00:28:50,613
'cause for me it was, it was a process
of have I studied, have I worked, have

544
00:28:50,613 --> 00:28:58,203
I learned, have I, do I understand
what the meaning of the, the tattoo is?

545
00:28:58,203 --> 00:29:00,303
Do I, you're following your own protocol.

546
00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:00,753
Yeah.

547
00:29:01,143 --> 00:29:05,433
And it's not that there is a, anyone else
telling me, like, right, this is what

548
00:29:05,433 --> 00:29:07,023
you have to happen in order to do this.

549
00:29:07,023 --> 00:29:09,393
But I laid it out for myself.

550
00:29:11,118 --> 00:29:12,813
And I was ready for that.

551
00:29:13,143 --> 00:29:16,983
This one I've been thinking
about for almost 10 years.

552
00:29:16,983 --> 00:29:24,813
And then the other one, which we'll show,
uh, was only in the last couple of years.

553
00:29:25,083 --> 00:29:25,323
Oh, okay.

554
00:29:25,323 --> 00:29:28,353
That I was like, okay,
that's the other one.

555
00:29:28,353 --> 00:29:29,373
Mm-hmm.

556
00:29:29,379 --> 00:29:30,783
That's how did you always
know there was gonna be two

557
00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:32,673
or feel there was gonna be two?

558
00:29:32,673 --> 00:29:33,003
I think

559
00:29:33,003 --> 00:29:37,443
I did, because I think, and,
and we worked on this one.

560
00:29:38,838 --> 00:29:40,308
I'm totally revealing, revealing.

561
00:29:40,398 --> 00:29:43,578
We did this, like we worked on
this one and then it was a few

562
00:29:43,578 --> 00:29:45,138
weeks before we did the other one.

563
00:29:45,498 --> 00:29:49,848
And so I had one for a while and
um, and I did feel like during

564
00:29:49,848 --> 00:29:51,588
that time, like, I'm imbalanced.

565
00:29:51,588 --> 00:29:51,678
Mm-hmm.

566
00:29:51,948 --> 00:29:56,718
I need like, it's incomplete almost
as if they are the same part of

567
00:29:56,748 --> 00:30:00,828
the same tattoo, but they're two
separate, two different places.

568
00:30:00,828 --> 00:30:04,458
But just that they were
meant to be together.

569
00:30:04,548 --> 00:30:05,418
They were meant to be together.

570
00:30:05,418 --> 00:30:05,478
Yeah.

571
00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:06,633
Ooh, I like that.

572
00:30:08,598 --> 00:30:10,188
Yeah, and you're very intuitive.

573
00:30:10,188 --> 00:30:18,918
Naturally, we've talked about her very
empathic, open-minded connection to spirit

574
00:30:18,918 --> 00:30:21,048
and spiritual realms, and she's, and

575
00:30:22,038 --> 00:30:23,575
I don't even fully understand
it, doesn't understand it,

576
00:30:24,318 --> 00:30:27,408
but she's totally like, we've had
conversations during tattooing

577
00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,478
where she's like, I see.

578
00:30:29,478 --> 00:30:31,730
I feel, I know, I know.

579
00:30:31,735 --> 00:30:34,248
And I'm like, that is exactly right.

580
00:30:34,368 --> 00:30:35,328
That is exactly how it is.

581
00:30:36,093 --> 00:30:39,273
Most people can do that,
but don't trust it enough.

582
00:30:40,893 --> 00:30:41,403
I guess.

583
00:30:41,403 --> 00:30:47,493
I think something that I've experienced
is that I, I just didn't know that it

584
00:30:47,493 --> 00:30:50,103
wasn't a thing that everyone experiences.

585
00:30:50,613 --> 00:30:50,703
Mm-hmm.

586
00:30:51,033 --> 00:30:53,583
So then when I started get that,
you know, experiencing kind of

587
00:30:53,583 --> 00:30:56,758
more significant levels of it.

588
00:30:56,858 --> 00:30:57,278
Mm-hmm.

589
00:30:58,743 --> 00:31:03,303
And, um, being around others
who have more education on it.

590
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:06,843
While I was going through these
experiences and they're telling me like,

591
00:31:06,903 --> 00:31:10,233
whoa, yeah, you should do this more.

592
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:16,803
You know, it kind of clicked in
like, oh, this is something special

593
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:25,173
to me, for me that I should explore
more and not just discount it as,

594
00:31:25,263 --> 00:31:26,643
oh, everybody dreams like this.

595
00:31:26,673 --> 00:31:28,083
Oh, everybody does this,

596
00:31:28,623 --> 00:31:29,943
you know, astral projects.

597
00:31:29,973 --> 00:31:30,063
Mm-hmm.

598
00:31:30,303 --> 00:31:33,093
And, um, astral travels during.

599
00:31:33,168 --> 00:31:34,578
Oh, during sleep?

600
00:31:34,578 --> 00:31:34,698
Yes.

601
00:31:34,758 --> 00:31:38,538
And things like that, which I think
everybody does in some sense or another.

602
00:31:39,108 --> 00:31:41,688
They just maybe don't, you know,
and everyone's different in

603
00:31:41,688 --> 00:31:43,698
how they Right experience it.

604
00:31:43,698 --> 00:31:48,138
But I was, I was similar in that
I've probably always been very much

605
00:31:48,168 --> 00:31:51,438
in a spiritual realm my whole life,
and I didn't know that that's not

606
00:31:51,438 --> 00:31:53,598
something that everybody experiences.

607
00:31:54,108 --> 00:31:57,948
So I'm like, you guys all,
um, you know, pretend.

608
00:31:59,253 --> 00:32:03,183
This or that, or visualize
this or see these things when

609
00:32:03,183 --> 00:32:04,323
you're out and about, right?

610
00:32:04,328 --> 00:32:05,103
Mm mm-hmm.

611
00:32:05,118 --> 00:32:08,823
Like the energy of trees, you guys all
can see and feel energy of trees, right?

612
00:32:08,853 --> 00:32:08,943
Mm-hmm.

613
00:32:09,003 --> 00:32:12,393
And people are like,
that's weird, Courtney.

614
00:32:12,393 --> 00:32:12,723
Interesting.

615
00:32:14,463 --> 00:32:15,093
That's really cool.

616
00:32:15,093 --> 00:32:16,263
You're strange person.

617
00:32:16,263 --> 00:32:20,733
I'm like, oh, I'm, but I remember being
a small kid and when I didn't have any

618
00:32:20,733 --> 00:32:25,233
friends to play with, I would go climb
trees and then I would talk to the trees.

619
00:32:25,713 --> 00:32:25,923
Yeah.

620
00:32:26,013 --> 00:32:27,183
And the trees would be my friends.

621
00:32:27,888 --> 00:32:29,238
So I was like, never lonely.

622
00:32:29,268 --> 00:32:33,138
'cause I was like, well, we're just,
I'm playing with the trees today.

623
00:32:33,288 --> 00:32:39,168
And you were always connected
to the life source of Earth.

624
00:32:39,438 --> 00:32:39,828
Mm-hmm.

625
00:32:40,788 --> 00:32:43,098
I thought that was just
what everybody did,

626
00:32:45,018 --> 00:32:45,258
I guess.

627
00:32:45,408 --> 00:32:46,248
Don't do actually.

628
00:32:46,248 --> 00:32:50,988
So this is, I recently had a
conversation with somebody, uh,

629
00:32:50,988 --> 00:32:56,958
here, where they were talking about,
well, how they wanted to understand.

630
00:32:57,588 --> 00:33:01,458
If there are colors that help you
feel, and I was like, well, of course.

631
00:33:01,998 --> 00:33:02,088
Mm-hmm.

632
00:33:02,808 --> 00:33:04,519
That's my whole work, you know?

633
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:04,525
I feel, that's all I do.

634
00:33:04,623 --> 00:33:05,478
I feel all the colors.

635
00:33:05,478 --> 00:33:07,548
And he's like, what are you saying?

636
00:33:07,548 --> 00:33:10,008
And so we dug into that and
he's like, I just want you to

637
00:33:10,008 --> 00:33:11,388
know that not everybody feels.

638
00:33:11,643 --> 00:33:12,383
I'm like, wait, what?

639
00:33:13,483 --> 00:33:14,208
I'm like, well,

640
00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:16,488
they can, it's interesting.

641
00:33:16,488 --> 00:33:16,758
Yeah.

642
00:33:16,758 --> 00:33:17,478
It's possible.

643
00:33:17,533 --> 00:33:17,823
Yeah.

644
00:33:17,823 --> 00:33:18,623
Healing colors.

645
00:33:18,623 --> 00:33:18,738
That's all.

646
00:33:19,128 --> 00:33:22,458
The work that I do with healing work
is I'll be like, what color is it?

647
00:33:22,698 --> 00:33:24,378
What color is the feeling you're having?

648
00:33:24,858 --> 00:33:25,698
What connections?

649
00:33:25,953 --> 00:33:27,333
You know, are we making there?

650
00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:29,193
That's how we do the healing through art.

651
00:33:29,193 --> 00:33:31,443
We paint out our colors and our feelings.

652
00:33:31,443 --> 00:33:31,983
Exactly.

653
00:33:33,153 --> 00:33:37,023
And people are tapped into it
when they are allowed to be.

654
00:33:37,713 --> 00:33:39,393
They're more tapped into it
than they think they are.

655
00:33:39,693 --> 00:33:39,753
Yeah.

656
00:33:39,753 --> 00:33:42,333
Because they'll look at me kind of
strange when I say, what color is it?

657
00:33:42,543 --> 00:33:43,563
They go color.

658
00:33:44,073 --> 00:33:45,033
I'm talking about emotions.

659
00:33:45,033 --> 00:33:46,833
And I'm like, just what color is it?

660
00:33:46,893 --> 00:33:48,723
Just first thing that comes to your mind.

661
00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:49,113
Yeah.

662
00:33:49,113 --> 00:33:52,803
And they're like, uh, I guess it's orange.

663
00:33:52,803 --> 00:33:55,713
And then I'm like, okay,
here's what I know about that.

664
00:33:56,313 --> 00:33:59,103
And then we'll move, move
through the energy that way.

665
00:34:00,153 --> 00:34:06,813
And you not even having studied
energy work necessarily in talking

666
00:34:06,813 --> 00:34:10,143
to your clients while they're getting
a tattoo and asking what does this

667
00:34:10,143 --> 00:34:14,973
tattoo mean to you and how you, and
then you're infusing that as you

668
00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:17,103
tattoo, which I think is incredible.

669
00:34:17,493 --> 00:34:18,333
It's energy work.

670
00:34:18,363 --> 00:34:18,843
Yeah.

671
00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:23,733
I mean, in, in the Polynesian culture,
there's this, it's called mana.

672
00:34:23,733 --> 00:34:24,543
I mean, we.

673
00:34:25,293 --> 00:34:29,823
In, in the old days, only the
Sacred Chiefs were allowed to

674
00:34:29,823 --> 00:34:31,713
have and use and obtain mana.

675
00:34:31,713 --> 00:34:33,693
It was a, a force.

676
00:34:34,803 --> 00:34:34,863
Hmm.

677
00:34:35,913 --> 00:34:38,523
And you know, of course
there was different levels

678
00:34:38,523 --> 00:34:39,963
of still each other's mana.

679
00:34:40,653 --> 00:34:44,703
You know, it gets a little extreme
and dark in that conversation.

680
00:34:44,703 --> 00:34:48,933
But, um, mana is, is like, is a power.

681
00:34:48,993 --> 00:34:51,033
It's an energy and, um.

682
00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:56,103
Something, you know, in the
modern day, what I'm doing

683
00:34:56,103 --> 00:35:00,093
here is I, how do I put this?

684
00:35:00,873 --> 00:35:02,253
I have a lot of energy.

685
00:35:02,988 --> 00:35:09,513
I, I have booming energy that I can
share, and I, I like to think of what

686
00:35:09,513 --> 00:35:11,793
I do as like an energy exchange here.

687
00:35:11,793 --> 00:35:11,883
Mm-hmm.

688
00:35:12,123 --> 00:35:17,763
You know, this is a transaction
of sorts in sharing mana.

689
00:35:19,488 --> 00:35:24,048
And, you know, you come to me to
spill your blood willingly and

690
00:35:24,048 --> 00:35:27,858
share your blood with me, and I'm
sharing with you, you know, a new

691
00:35:27,858 --> 00:35:29,538
form of yourself when you leave.

692
00:35:30,648 --> 00:35:34,728
And, um, yeah mama, that's,
that's what we kind of call it.

693
00:35:34,728 --> 00:35:34,998
So

694
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:36,378
I love that.

695
00:35:37,608 --> 00:35:38,628
Incredible.

696
00:35:39,468 --> 00:35:42,493
I think intuitively your, your
DNA knew Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

697
00:35:42,498 --> 00:35:43,128
You knew.

698
00:35:43,488 --> 00:35:44,868
I think this is something passed on to

699
00:35:45,078 --> 00:35:45,378
you for sure.

700
00:35:45,378 --> 00:35:45,558
To.

701
00:35:46,983 --> 00:35:48,183
Incredible.

702
00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:53,253
And doing gen genealogy
work back to my culture.

703
00:35:53,313 --> 00:35:53,553
Mm-hmm.

704
00:35:53,973 --> 00:35:57,573
Um, a lot of our history was
passed down through oral tradition.

705
00:35:57,573 --> 00:35:59,763
It wasn't passed down through records.

706
00:35:59,763 --> 00:36:01,023
You know, written record.

707
00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:07,143
Written record is such a, a more
modern European approach to history.

708
00:36:07,863 --> 00:36:13,023
Um, so in doing genealogy,
I've, uh, found and.

709
00:36:14,628 --> 00:36:19,818
Consumed a lot of oral record
that has been put down in mm-hmm.

710
00:36:20,118 --> 00:36:23,658
Written record nowadays,
um, of my lineages.

711
00:36:23,658 --> 00:36:29,778
And so I have been able to learn
of what my ancestors possessed in

712
00:36:29,778 --> 00:36:37,068
their mana and how they, um, managed
the world around them at the time.

713
00:36:38,868 --> 00:36:42,138
And, um, it, it, it
was, it's an immediate.

714
00:36:43,128 --> 00:36:50,028
Um, opportunity to like relate it to
who I am and where I came from, um,

715
00:36:50,028 --> 00:36:55,668
and what they passed on to me and I,
yeah, I can't help but being a person

716
00:36:55,668 --> 00:37:02,598
who is connected to a more spiritual
life experience, I can't help but like,

717
00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:07,068
think of it as a inheritance, right?

718
00:37:07,068 --> 00:37:07,128
Yeah.

719
00:37:07,128 --> 00:37:08,448
I inherited these.

720
00:37:09,168 --> 00:37:11,988
This big booming energy from my ancestors.

721
00:37:12,078 --> 00:37:12,168
Mm-hmm.

722
00:37:13,188 --> 00:37:14,088
For sure.

723
00:37:14,838 --> 00:37:15,858
I think we all have that.

724
00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:16,218
Right?

725
00:37:16,368 --> 00:37:20,058
But you kind of have to be
just open to tapping into it.

726
00:37:20,898 --> 00:37:21,048
Mm-hmm.

727
00:37:21,288 --> 00:37:21,648
Or maybe

728
00:37:21,648 --> 00:37:23,148
nurturing that it's there already.

729
00:37:23,358 --> 00:37:23,688
Yeah.

730
00:37:24,858 --> 00:37:28,128
Some kind of a passion or
drive even just a curiosity.

731
00:37:28,128 --> 00:37:28,368
Mm-hmm.

732
00:37:28,938 --> 00:37:32,118
I think that more and more
people are coming around to that.

733
00:37:33,468 --> 00:37:33,858
Yeah.

734
00:37:33,858 --> 00:37:33,918
Yeah.

735
00:37:34,373 --> 00:37:34,663
Yeah.

736
00:37:34,698 --> 00:37:35,928
And I feel like there's just.

737
00:37:36,318 --> 00:37:39,288
There's demographics of people that
haven't awakened to it yet, but I think

738
00:37:39,288 --> 00:37:43,818
that they're grasping so strongly Yeah.

739
00:37:44,208 --> 00:37:49,338
To maybe modern things that they're
just like, no, I can't, I can't.

740
00:37:49,338 --> 00:37:51,498
Well, I think a lot of answer that call.

741
00:37:51,498 --> 00:37:54,498
It's like, I, I don't want things to
change and I don't wanna look at that,

742
00:37:54,498 --> 00:37:56,118
and so I'm just gonna hold tight to what,

743
00:37:56,478 --> 00:37:56,628
what

744
00:37:56,628 --> 00:37:56,658
I

745
00:37:56,663 --> 00:37:56,693
have.

746
00:37:56,733 --> 00:37:57,174
I think there's a

747
00:37:57,179 --> 00:37:57,288
lot

748
00:37:57,288 --> 00:38:02,358
of guilt, um, in straying
from religion and faith.

749
00:38:03,258 --> 00:38:04,428
You know, they almost see it Yeah.

750
00:38:04,428 --> 00:38:06,648
As something against
faith threatening to that.

751
00:38:06,648 --> 00:38:06,978
Yeah.

752
00:38:06,978 --> 00:38:08,658
Or against their reality.

753
00:38:09,708 --> 00:38:11,838
And it keeps them from exploring it.

754
00:38:12,618 --> 00:38:17,508
I don't, I don't know that it
needs to be against somebody's

755
00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:19,158
no.

756
00:38:19,938 --> 00:38:21,168
Religion or

757
00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:21,618
Yeah.

758
00:38:21,738 --> 00:38:26,658
And it's a lot of people, um, in, in the
circles of people that I know that are,

759
00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:29,238
you know, reclaiming their ancestry.

760
00:38:30,123 --> 00:38:33,543
Um, they have Northern European
ancestry that they're connecting with.

761
00:38:33,663 --> 00:38:33,783
Mm-hmm.

762
00:38:34,083 --> 00:38:39,303
And then they have, you
know, like you another side.

763
00:38:39,963 --> 00:38:45,363
So you are kind of coming
to a marriage of both.

764
00:38:45,393 --> 00:38:45,543
Yeah.

765
00:38:45,543 --> 00:38:50,313
In the respect of both, while they're
also, sometimes there's so many parallels.

766
00:38:50,403 --> 00:38:50,643
Yeah.

767
00:38:51,213 --> 00:38:51,303
I

768
00:38:51,303 --> 00:38:54,933
mean, again, I think it
comes down to belief.

769
00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:58,358
I think a lot of people believe in
something that, uh, indicates that.

770
00:38:59,508 --> 00:39:03,288
A lot of, you know, things from
10,000, 20,000, 70,000 years

771
00:39:03,288 --> 00:39:05,868
ago were not real necessarily.

772
00:39:05,898 --> 00:39:05,988
Mm-hmm.

773
00:39:06,228 --> 00:39:07,008
That's unfortunate.

774
00:39:07,068 --> 00:39:10,278
'cause I think if you can, if
you allow yourself to tap into

775
00:39:10,278 --> 00:39:11,868
those things, you can realize like

776
00:39:14,298 --> 00:39:14,808
where you come from.

777
00:39:15,003 --> 00:39:15,243
Mm-hmm.

778
00:39:15,813 --> 00:39:16,163
Basic,

779
00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:21,858
basic source of who we are and how
much of that makes us who we are.

780
00:39:21,858 --> 00:39:22,368
Mm-hmm.

781
00:39:22,783 --> 00:39:26,538
So much of us that we can deny or.

782
00:39:26,958 --> 00:39:28,188
And maybe how much we don't need

783
00:39:28,188 --> 00:39:29,148
to evolve.

784
00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:33,018
Like, do we need to keep
pushing the envelope?

785
00:39:33,018 --> 00:39:34,278
Can't we just be fishermen?

786
00:39:35,388 --> 00:39:35,718
Yes.

787
00:39:37,338 --> 00:39:40,188
Some people are just really,
really happy just fishing for

788
00:39:40,188 --> 00:39:41,118
the, what they need for the day.

789
00:39:41,118 --> 00:39:41,208
Mm-hmm.

790
00:39:41,448 --> 00:39:42,798
And then that's it.

791
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:45,468
I'm constantly in a battle
with myself about that.

792
00:39:45,768 --> 00:39:49,008
Constantly looking at my
schedule and being like, wait,

793
00:39:49,008 --> 00:39:50,478
did I wanna be this busy?

794
00:39:51,108 --> 00:39:51,198
Mm-hmm.

795
00:39:51,528 --> 00:39:53,898
What was the reason I put
this much on my schedule?

796
00:39:53,898 --> 00:39:54,618
And then it was like.

797
00:39:55,128 --> 00:39:55,608
Oh, yeah.

798
00:39:55,638 --> 00:39:58,248
I thought that, you know, maybe
I needed to be making money.

799
00:39:58,248 --> 00:40:01,878
I thought that I, that's what success
was, and I got a little wrapped up in

800
00:40:01,878 --> 00:40:05,928
that instead of just being like, what do
I want my day to day life to look like?

801
00:40:06,283 --> 00:40:06,503
Yep.

802
00:40:06,828 --> 00:40:07,008
Yep.

803
00:40:07,128 --> 00:40:11,148
So back into balance and I'm
just constantly swinging like

804
00:40:11,148 --> 00:40:12,108
a little pendulum like that.

805
00:40:13,098 --> 00:40:13,488
Yeah.

806
00:40:13,488 --> 00:40:17,448
I've, I've recently been trying to
convert my husband to the idea that

807
00:40:17,448 --> 00:40:20,508
we, we don't retire with money, right?

808
00:40:20,628 --> 00:40:20,808
Yeah.

809
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:21,978
We don't need to retire.

810
00:40:22,308 --> 00:40:23,688
You may not subscribe to this.

811
00:40:23,688 --> 00:40:27,948
This notion of having a
lot of money to retire.

812
00:40:29,088 --> 00:40:33,138
It's, it's just a, it's a mental
construct that I don't necessarily

813
00:40:33,138 --> 00:40:34,608
feel I need to fall into.

814
00:40:35,448 --> 00:40:40,218
So I'm convincing, I'm slowly, slowly
but surely getting my husband on that

815
00:40:40,218 --> 00:40:44,328
end with me is, let's, let's retire
and go live off the land somewhere.

816
00:40:46,698 --> 00:40:50,448
Because truthfully, even all the hard
work that you put into it and all of the,

817
00:40:50,478 --> 00:40:52,188
you know, maybe the savings and things.

818
00:40:52,653 --> 00:40:54,453
Um, there are no guarantees.

819
00:40:54,543 --> 00:40:54,633
Mm-hmm.

820
00:40:55,263 --> 00:41:00,243
And I know a lot of people in my parents'
generation that worked so hard Oh my gosh.

821
00:41:00,273 --> 00:41:03,633
Saved so hard, sacrificed so much.

822
00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:05,343
They're still, and they lost everything.

823
00:41:05,403 --> 00:41:10,203
And they're like, they, you know, used
up their savings during covid just to

824
00:41:10,203 --> 00:41:14,103
survive or they're, you know, and, and
they're forced to retire because no

825
00:41:14,103 --> 00:41:16,833
one will hire a 65, 70-year-old mm-hmm.

826
00:41:17,073 --> 00:41:17,883
You know, at this point.

827
00:41:17,883 --> 00:41:18,693
So they're like.

828
00:41:19,008 --> 00:41:22,458
In, in a situation where they're
like, okay, so what was it all for?

829
00:41:22,458 --> 00:41:27,828
I'm still in a position where I
have to figure it out and yeah.

830
00:41:27,828 --> 00:41:29,958
I I am still without, I'm still without.

831
00:41:30,018 --> 00:41:30,258
Yeah.

832
00:41:31,368 --> 00:41:34,548
So I think our notion could
have been that your thirties and

833
00:41:34,548 --> 00:41:36,138
forties and fifties were like

834
00:41:36,438 --> 00:41:37,038
enjoyable.

835
00:41:38,178 --> 00:41:38,508
Yes.

836
00:41:38,748 --> 00:41:40,458
Our notion of comfort is a,

837
00:41:42,588 --> 00:41:44,238
is make believe.

838
00:41:45,288 --> 00:41:45,378
Mm-hmm.

839
00:41:46,818 --> 00:41:47,118
Yeah.

840
00:41:47,628 --> 00:41:48,258
It's built on.

841
00:41:48,738 --> 00:41:50,268
That's really scary for a lot of people.

842
00:41:50,328 --> 00:41:55,038
But I think you get comfortable or
feel a little more comfortable with

843
00:41:55,038 --> 00:41:58,758
uncertainty, you realize it's not,
not the worst thing in the world.

844
00:41:58,963 --> 00:41:59,253
It's,

845
00:41:59,688 --> 00:42:00,198
it's okay.

846
00:42:01,068 --> 00:42:03,348
You know, I found out something
about myself during Covid.

847
00:42:04,068 --> 00:42:06,138
I thrived, huh?

848
00:42:06,138 --> 00:42:07,398
Like, I, I Good.

849
00:42:08,508 --> 00:42:13,248
I thrived during, um, turmoil.

850
00:42:13,293 --> 00:42:18,138
And I think there's probably a lot
more that can be talked into there.

851
00:42:19,563 --> 00:42:21,543
I know there's a lot of
childhood issues there.

852
00:42:21,543 --> 00:42:28,653
But anyways, back to back to the now,
um, I, you know, through Covid I felt

853
00:42:29,763 --> 00:42:38,673
alive and I knew that I could survive and
thrive and do very well in that situation.

854
00:42:39,213 --> 00:42:42,993
I did, you know, I think,
um, I have a strange.

855
00:42:45,678 --> 00:42:52,608
Desire, maybe not desire,
but comfort with discomfort.

856
00:42:52,758 --> 00:42:56,028
Mm. Like when we had the earthquake.

857
00:42:56,028 --> 00:42:56,118
Mm-hmm.

858
00:42:57,073 --> 00:43:00,198
I was ready to go, like I was like,
okay, I'm already prepared for Covid.

859
00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:02,208
Let's just, let's just suggest a little.

860
00:43:02,273 --> 00:43:02,433
I know.

861
00:43:02,433 --> 00:43:02,688
I remember

862
00:43:02,688 --> 00:43:06,138
that being such a big deal here
in Utah that everything shut down.

863
00:43:06,138 --> 00:43:07,998
Everybody was home then
we had this earthquake.

864
00:43:07,998 --> 00:43:10,188
That was something we were not used to.

865
00:43:10,368 --> 00:43:11,058
Mm-hmm.

866
00:43:11,538 --> 00:43:11,868
Yeah.

867
00:43:11,958 --> 00:43:12,588
I remember being like.

868
00:43:14,328 --> 00:43:15,498
Well, the world's ending.

869
00:43:15,678 --> 00:43:16,908
Well, here we go.

870
00:43:17,868 --> 00:43:22,638
I don't remember panicking or like
feeling, you know, totally shook.

871
00:43:22,638 --> 00:43:25,893
I just was like, well, yeah.

872
00:43:26,208 --> 00:43:26,598
What else?

873
00:43:26,958 --> 00:43:27,438
Bring it on.

874
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:27,918
I don't know.

875
00:43:28,008 --> 00:43:29,413
Yes, we go.

876
00:43:29,533 --> 00:43:30,173
I think there's a level of

877
00:43:30,173 --> 00:43:30,453
like,

878
00:43:32,118 --> 00:43:34,608
well, this, we're already ready.

879
00:43:35,238 --> 00:43:37,938
Yeah, but I think I was already ready
before a lot of other people were.

880
00:43:38,598 --> 00:43:39,798
I was, I was already ready.

881
00:43:39,798 --> 00:43:40,188
Yeah.

882
00:43:40,368 --> 00:43:42,078
For the zombie apocalypse.

883
00:43:42,138 --> 00:43:42,318
Yeah.

884
00:43:42,318 --> 00:43:50,298
Like, I gotta feeling, but um, as I splash
all my ink everywhere, edit that out.

885
00:43:52,608 --> 00:43:53,358
Keeping on it in Oh.

886
00:43:55,098 --> 00:44:02,988
Um, yeah, I think there, these, a little
bit of me is like, oh man, I wish we

887
00:44:02,988 --> 00:44:04,758
could have some crazy situation again.

888
00:44:04,758 --> 00:44:06,558
Where I'm like, feeling great.

889
00:44:07,188 --> 00:44:08,238
On top of the world.

890
00:44:08,898 --> 00:44:09,228
Yeah.

891
00:44:10,548 --> 00:44:12,738
I thought that it would really
be a catalyst for change.

892
00:44:12,738 --> 00:44:16,728
And maybe it is, maybe it's just taking
time too for the universe to catch up.

893
00:44:16,758 --> 00:44:24,588
But the idea of, Hey, maybe we all work
too hard, slow down that like the time

894
00:44:24,588 --> 00:44:27,233
people got to spend at home with their
family because they had no other choice.

895
00:44:27,408 --> 00:44:28,698
It was like stay home.

896
00:44:28,698 --> 00:44:30,228
That is exactly work from home.

897
00:44:30,258 --> 00:44:30,648
Yes.

898
00:44:30,858 --> 00:44:34,818
And then everybody went,
oh my gosh, I am working.

899
00:44:35,358 --> 00:44:38,778
For someone else, you know?

900
00:44:38,793 --> 00:44:41,028
Not for my, not for my, my life away.

901
00:44:41,268 --> 00:44:41,778
Yeah.

902
00:44:41,868 --> 00:44:43,668
And I, I feel like people really shifted.

903
00:44:43,668 --> 00:44:46,668
They were like, time with family
is where it is at, where it's

904
00:44:46,668 --> 00:44:50,718
important or time for myself and
my hobbies and things I love to do.

905
00:44:50,718 --> 00:44:53,733
'cause we were forced to be
like, you can't go anywhere.

906
00:44:53,733 --> 00:44:55,728
You can't go, you can't be distracted.

907
00:44:55,728 --> 00:44:58,878
You have to sit with your
stillness and your boredom.

908
00:45:00,258 --> 00:45:01,758
And I thought it was great.

909
00:45:01,758 --> 00:45:02,088
Yeah.

910
00:45:02,238 --> 00:45:02,953
I mean, I thought, me too.

911
00:45:03,048 --> 00:45:03,918
This is it.

912
00:45:04,038 --> 00:45:04,278
Yep.

913
00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:05,778
This is what the earth needs.

914
00:45:05,838 --> 00:45:08,808
We need a cleansing, we
need a flood or a fire.

915
00:45:08,808 --> 00:45:12,438
We need a big cataclysmic and bend.

916
00:45:12,438 --> 00:45:12,768
Not that I

917
00:45:12,768 --> 00:45:13,923
want people to hurt.

918
00:45:14,053 --> 00:45:14,273
No.

919
00:45:14,273 --> 00:45:14,513
Right.

920
00:45:14,513 --> 00:45:18,528
It's, I just wanted a shift.

921
00:45:18,528 --> 00:45:20,748
I wanted something to
force us into a shift.

922
00:45:20,748 --> 00:45:25,818
So yeah, it's, it's obviously
unfortunate all of the harm.

923
00:45:25,818 --> 00:45:26,028
Right.

924
00:45:26,028 --> 00:45:26,658
And the.

925
00:45:27,063 --> 00:45:30,573
You know when something really terrible
happens and all the people are affected,

926
00:45:33,633 --> 00:45:35,973
the casualties of an event like that.

927
00:45:37,173 --> 00:45:39,483
Yeah, yeah.

928
00:45:40,623 --> 00:45:43,053
And that's the demented one who's
like, oh, I did really well.

929
00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:43,893
Yeah.

930
00:45:44,043 --> 00:45:45,633
I don't, I don't think there's
anything wrong with that.

931
00:45:45,633 --> 00:45:45,948
That sounds great at all.

932
00:45:46,168 --> 00:45:46,748
The situation.

933
00:45:49,473 --> 00:45:53,733
But that's a strength of character
in, you know, for people who maybe

934
00:45:53,733 --> 00:45:56,193
have been through trauma or have
been through things in their life

935
00:45:56,193 --> 00:45:57,873
that's like, this is where I shine.

936
00:45:57,963 --> 00:45:58,143
Yeah.

937
00:45:58,143 --> 00:45:58,833
I'm doing great.

938
00:45:59,133 --> 00:45:59,733
Sorry about you guys.

939
00:45:59,853 --> 00:46:00,243
Yeah.

940
00:46:01,083 --> 00:46:04,263
But we look to those people
and go, help us through this.

941
00:46:04,263 --> 00:46:09,423
Like lead us through this for the people
whose lives were maybe a little too cushy.

942
00:46:09,873 --> 00:46:10,143
Yeah.

943
00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:11,553
They don't know what to do.

944
00:46:11,553 --> 00:46:14,193
They panic, like help.

945
00:46:16,203 --> 00:46:16,623
Now what?

946
00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:20,523
Yeah, I think this is
gonna go really deep.

947
00:46:21,213 --> 00:46:29,613
Being a child with trauma,
I, um, made pain my ally.

948
00:46:31,473 --> 00:46:33,948
You know, it was kind of one of
those things that was like, oh, okay,

949
00:46:33,948 --> 00:46:35,013
well I'm feeling pain from this.

950
00:46:35,073 --> 00:46:35,163
Hmm.

951
00:46:35,943 --> 00:46:39,633
So I'm gonna control it instead, like,
I'm not gonna let it hurt me anymore.

952
00:46:40,058 --> 00:46:40,478
Mm-hmm.

953
00:46:41,058 --> 00:46:43,438
Uh, you know, disassociating is mm-hmm.

954
00:46:43,518 --> 00:46:44,673
Part of that too, you know?

955
00:46:44,733 --> 00:46:45,093
Right.

956
00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:49,563
So, yeah, I think, um, tattoos
was definitely a symptom of

957
00:46:49,563 --> 00:46:51,093
the like, Ooh, I had this pain.

958
00:46:51,093 --> 00:46:55,923
This makes me feel alive instead
of being broken down and being

959
00:46:55,983 --> 00:46:58,473
created into some art piece.

960
00:46:59,553 --> 00:47:00,363
Mm. You know, that's

961
00:47:00,363 --> 00:47:04,533
an, yeah, that's an interesting, that's
like whole other perspective of it.

962
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:05,343
Two.

963
00:47:06,513 --> 00:47:11,823
I feel like I looked
at it, um, for myself.

964
00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:13,953
I don't like to be uncomfortable.

965
00:47:14,523 --> 00:47:14,583
I'm

966
00:47:14,883 --> 00:47:19,928
not one who would be like, should
go out in the cold and suffer Cold.

967
00:47:22,113 --> 00:47:23,283
Cold is where I drop a wine.

968
00:47:23,283 --> 00:47:23,913
I'm chilly.

969
00:47:24,783 --> 00:47:25,503
I wanna go inside.

970
00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:30,453
I've always been kinda a baby
about that stuff, but I, I

971
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:31,893
thought about like when I was.

972
00:47:32,268 --> 00:47:39,018
Facing childbirth and how I felt about
that and was like, oh man, I'm so ready.

973
00:47:39,018 --> 00:47:42,858
I'm so like, oh, just put me in coach.

974
00:47:42,858 --> 00:47:43,518
I'm ready.

975
00:47:43,518 --> 00:47:48,558
And then being like, I get to move
through that experience with everything

976
00:47:48,558 --> 00:47:52,968
that that's gonna feel like, and then,
you know, be rebirth as a mom on the

977
00:47:52,968 --> 00:47:57,738
other side and, and then the tattoo,
knowing that's not gonna be comfy.

978
00:47:58,368 --> 00:47:58,758
Yeah.

979
00:47:58,848 --> 00:48:01,188
Which, you know, even right
now, it's like a little.

980
00:48:01,248 --> 00:48:03,768
Some, there's some discomfort.

981
00:48:03,858 --> 00:48:04,578
Little discomfort.

982
00:48:04,578 --> 00:48:04,638
Yeah.

983
00:48:04,908 --> 00:48:08,238
Nothing I can't handle, but I'm
like, um, I'm also not opting to get

984
00:48:08,238 --> 00:48:13,818
a tattoo in a place that's really
painful, either got 'em all over, I'm

985
00:48:13,818 --> 00:48:14,538
like, oh,

986
00:48:15,348 --> 00:48:16,158
I wanna get on my

987
00:48:16,158 --> 00:48:16,458
face.

988
00:48:16,458 --> 00:48:17,118
Fixed

989
00:48:17,718 --> 00:48:20,718
with people that have, I'm like behind
their ears or somewhere that I think, or

990
00:48:20,718 --> 00:48:22,908
there's like a lot of color lids there.

991
00:48:22,908 --> 00:48:23,088
Yeah.

992
00:48:24,528 --> 00:48:25,308
I'm like, Ooh.

993
00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:27,318
Not that I wouldn't do it, I

994
00:48:27,318 --> 00:48:30,528
might, but I, so here's
the thing is I like.

995
00:48:31,758 --> 00:48:34,728
The mental space that I have
to be in to get through it.

996
00:48:35,028 --> 00:48:35,238
Mm-hmm.

997
00:48:35,688 --> 00:48:37,158
It's a comfortable place for me.

998
00:48:37,488 --> 00:48:39,948
Yeah, yeah.

999
00:48:40,578 --> 00:48:43,668
You know, feeling all those endorphins
and all the dopamine and everything

1000
00:48:43,668 --> 00:48:48,918
happening, the adrenaline, that's
a, that's a weird, fun place to be.

1001
00:48:49,638 --> 00:48:49,968
Yeah.

1002
00:48:50,508 --> 00:48:55,338
I could see that maybe, maybe that's
something that's passed down to, you know,

1003
00:48:57,258 --> 00:49:00,198
excitement in the way that you.

1004
00:49:00,288 --> 00:49:01,428
I get that.

1005
00:49:02,358 --> 00:49:04,698
Like I'm ready to go into battle almost.

1006
00:49:04,728 --> 00:49:04,938
Yeah.

1007
00:49:04,938 --> 00:49:09,018
And it sounds really weird,
but like in Polynesia, our

1008
00:49:09,018 --> 00:49:12,348
ancestors were very much, um,

1009
00:49:14,898 --> 00:49:15,618
battling, you know?

1010
00:49:15,618 --> 00:49:15,708
Mm-hmm.

1011
00:49:15,948 --> 00:49:19,248
There was a lot of war and a lot
of conflict while there was a lot

1012
00:49:19,248 --> 00:49:23,328
of beauty and, you know, growing
culture that, you know, that's

1013
00:49:23,328 --> 00:49:26,028
exactly what kind of fueled it is.

1014
00:49:26,148 --> 00:49:27,618
The movement through the islands was.

1015
00:49:28,668 --> 00:49:34,098
There was conflict between chiefs
and, you know, village leaders and

1016
00:49:36,678 --> 00:49:38,628
yeah, this is warrior spirit.

1017
00:49:38,628 --> 00:49:40,068
So there is like a level of

1018
00:49:42,468 --> 00:49:49,053
I living in a stagnant experience of life
is a very unnatural thing, I think for

1019
00:49:52,123 --> 00:49:53,173
everybody, but.

1020
00:49:53,778 --> 00:49:56,208
Particularly people who are
coming from cultures that are

1021
00:49:56,268 --> 00:49:57,978
still new to the modern era.

1022
00:49:58,278 --> 00:49:58,728
Mm-hmm.

1023
00:49:59,448 --> 00:50:05,268
Because it was only two generations
ago where, I don't know, it was living

1024
00:50:05,268 --> 00:50:07,758
a lot more hard and Yeah, difficult.

1025
00:50:08,268 --> 00:50:08,988
Yeah.

1026
00:50:10,068 --> 00:50:12,258
And even here in the US there's
a level of difficulty that was

1027
00:50:12,258 --> 00:50:13,758
happening two generations ago.

1028
00:50:14,118 --> 00:50:15,408
Different, right.

1029
00:50:15,408 --> 00:50:16,143
But I know it's crazy

1030
00:50:16,218 --> 00:50:16,998
to think about.

1031
00:50:19,338 --> 00:50:21,858
How really very new, yeah.

1032
00:50:21,978 --> 00:50:25,728
What this country is and in
the way that it looks now

1033
00:50:26,268 --> 00:50:27,768
us is just an angsty teen.

1034
00:50:27,918 --> 00:50:29,508
Just a little angsty teen going through.

1035
00:50:29,508 --> 00:50:32,418
Its going through its stuff.

1036
00:50:35,718 --> 00:50:36,528
That's a nice way to look at.

1037
00:50:39,533 --> 00:50:39,753
Oh,

1038
00:50:41,928 --> 00:50:42,768
nice.

1039
00:50:42,798 --> 00:50:43,218
I went a little

1040
00:50:43,218 --> 00:50:46,488
bit farther into touching up
than I was necessary, but it

1041
00:50:46,488 --> 00:50:48,738
was like I. She got in the zone.

1042
00:50:48,738 --> 00:50:49,938
Really got in the zone there.

1043
00:50:51,618 --> 00:50:53,958
Like I'm gonna hit that little
guy real quick and then we'll be

1044
00:50:54,168 --> 00:50:55,518
ready to move on to the other side.

1045
00:51:01,518 --> 00:51:02,988
Do you think you're done with tattoos?

1046
00:51:03,783 --> 00:51:05,063
I have no idea.

1047
00:51:06,293 --> 00:51:07,878
I feel like I'm good for now.

1048
00:51:07,968 --> 00:51:09,498
Yeah, but never say never.

1049
00:51:10,008 --> 00:51:10,338
Right.

1050
00:51:10,908 --> 00:51:12,858
Just be careful not to
fall off the edge of

1051
00:51:14,958 --> 00:51:16,248
mindless tattooing.

1052
00:51:16,368 --> 00:51:16,638
Yeah.

1053
00:51:17,343 --> 00:51:17,943
Do you think that's, that's

1054
00:51:17,943 --> 00:51:18,813
something that I don't,

1055
00:51:21,183 --> 00:51:23,643
don't think I will do, but I Yeah.

1056
00:51:23,853 --> 00:51:27,663
Would be careful about because
it took me so long Yeah.

1057
00:51:27,723 --> 00:51:28,473
To feel ready.

1058
00:51:29,253 --> 00:51:32,913
I don't have anything in mind
like I did going into this.

1059
00:51:32,943 --> 00:51:35,913
I obviously like was like,
I thought about this so.

1060
00:51:36,003 --> 00:51:36,093
Mm-hmm.

1061
00:51:36,333 --> 00:51:37,233
For so long.

1062
00:51:37,233 --> 00:51:40,443
I know I won't regret it
because it never changed.

1063
00:51:40,443 --> 00:51:41,013
Always been there.

1064
00:51:41,343 --> 00:51:41,673
Yeah.

1065
00:51:44,163 --> 00:51:44,883
So maybe I just need.

1066
00:51:45,783 --> 00:51:51,573
Enough time to be like, I know this is
what I want, and I've never not wanted it.

1067
00:51:51,573 --> 00:51:51,723
Mm-hmm.

1068
00:51:54,813 --> 00:51:55,323
That makes sense.

1069
00:51:55,328 --> 00:51:58,023
I feel like maybe it would be a weird
thing to be a tattoo artist and tell

1070
00:51:58,023 --> 00:51:59,613
somebody not to keep getting tattoos.

1071
00:51:59,613 --> 00:51:59,913
Right.

1072
00:52:01,353 --> 00:52:02,553
Well just be intentional

1073
00:52:02,553 --> 00:52:02,913
about

1074
00:52:02,913 --> 00:52:03,093
it.

1075
00:52:03,153 --> 00:52:03,513
Intentional.

1076
00:52:03,513 --> 00:52:03,768
Just

1077
00:52:03,768 --> 00:52:04,863
be intentional.

1078
00:52:05,463 --> 00:52:06,243
It's a good idea.

1079
00:52:07,713 --> 00:52:10,203
Yeah, and for sure if anybody's
looking to get a tattoo.

1080
00:52:11,808 --> 00:52:14,748
You are going to want to seek liberty
out soon because she's gonna be

1081
00:52:14,748 --> 00:52:17,178
so busy that she's gonna have to
raise all of her prices and you

1082
00:52:17,178 --> 00:52:18,168
guys are not even gonna get in.

1083
00:52:19,158 --> 00:52:21,408
It's gonna be too, she's
not, in fact, don't even try.

1084
00:52:21,883 --> 00:52:22,303
I'm just kidding.

1085
00:52:24,738 --> 00:52:26,388
I'm like very soon.

1086
00:52:27,588 --> 00:52:28,068
No,

1087
00:52:28,068 --> 00:52:29,718
I was very lucky to get in.

1088
00:52:29,718 --> 00:52:30,198
Let me just

1089
00:52:30,198 --> 00:52:38,658
say that I get to do this for passion,
like I don't, I'm lucky where.

1090
00:52:40,953 --> 00:52:43,083
This is a burning passion for me.

1091
00:52:43,803 --> 00:52:44,073
Yeah.

1092
00:52:44,193 --> 00:52:45,783
Um, that's what it should be.

1093
00:52:45,813 --> 00:52:49,323
So getting the work that
feels right is important.

1094
00:52:49,563 --> 00:52:49,773
Mm-hmm.

1095
00:52:50,073 --> 00:52:53,343
You know, I, I, I want to make
sure that I'm the right person

1096
00:52:53,343 --> 00:52:58,053
for everybody that comes in and
sits on this chair and vice versa.

1097
00:52:58,113 --> 00:52:58,203
Mm-hmm.

1098
00:52:58,443 --> 00:53:04,743
That we we're doing the proper, we're
in the right place for our own journeys.

1099
00:53:04,743 --> 00:53:05,043
Right?

1100
00:53:05,403 --> 00:53:06,033
Yes.

1101
00:53:06,243 --> 00:53:06,693
So.

1102
00:53:07,113 --> 00:53:13,053
My passion is not pushing me to be
like, ah, I gotta raise my prices.

1103
00:53:13,083 --> 00:53:15,423
'cause I can, yeah.

1104
00:53:16,683 --> 00:53:17,223
Just know.

1105
00:53:18,573 --> 00:53:18,903
Yeah.

1106
00:53:19,113 --> 00:53:20,253
It's a good place to be in.

1107
00:53:20,253 --> 00:53:21,243
I've got a good intention

1108
00:53:21,243 --> 00:53:21,603
here.

1109
00:53:21,903 --> 00:53:22,323
Yeah.

1110
00:53:22,683 --> 00:53:27,003
And that's what someone told me
about, even the work that I do in

1111
00:53:27,003 --> 00:53:33,513
energy work and you know, if I do
charge money for it, it is my work.

1112
00:53:33,513 --> 00:53:33,693
Right?

1113
00:53:33,843 --> 00:53:33,903
Yeah.

1114
00:53:34,023 --> 00:53:35,883
But, you know, and then being like.

1115
00:53:36,243 --> 00:53:39,993
Obviously I do a lot of charity
work and giving things as

1116
00:53:39,993 --> 00:53:42,153
well, but I am balancing that.

1117
00:53:43,053 --> 00:53:48,543
But, uh, I was told in kind of business
ethics in when doing energy work is

1118
00:53:48,543 --> 00:53:53,013
if it starts to become where you're
like, I just can't do it anymore.

1119
00:53:53,973 --> 00:53:59,163
Um, you know, without feeling kind
of, uh, overworked or like, I'm

1120
00:53:59,163 --> 00:54:01,683
feeling like, oh, I gotta go do this.

1121
00:54:01,833 --> 00:54:01,923
Mm-hmm.

1122
00:54:03,348 --> 00:54:05,748
Then it's time to raise your
prices because the energetic

1123
00:54:05,778 --> 00:54:08,778
exchange is taking more than, yeah.

1124
00:54:08,783 --> 00:54:09,003
Yeah.

1125
00:54:09,918 --> 00:54:11,598
And that's how you can
kind of know or feel it.

1126
00:54:12,318 --> 00:54:12,378
Yeah.

1127
00:54:12,408 --> 00:54:15,168
Well, at the same time, I think it's
really important to be available,

1128
00:54:15,438 --> 00:54:22,188
uh, and to be like, okay, I also
do, you know, certain sessions for

1129
00:54:22,188 --> 00:54:25,968
people for free or there's certain
charity work that I reach out to.

1130
00:54:25,968 --> 00:54:27,288
And that's part of it too.

1131
00:54:29,958 --> 00:54:30,918
Leaving yourself open to that.

1132
00:54:31,458 --> 00:54:31,548
Yeah.

1133
00:54:33,873 --> 00:54:34,163
Okay.

1134
00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:37,608
Well, do you wanna let everybody know
how to find you and we'll finish up?

1135
00:54:37,818 --> 00:54:38,388
Oh, so I'm on ins.

1136
00:54:38,448 --> 00:54:39,288
Well, I have your other arm.

1137
00:54:39,468 --> 00:54:39,798
I'm a girl.

1138
00:54:39,828 --> 00:54:41,718
Yeah, but we'll, we'll
finish up the recording.

1139
00:54:41,778 --> 00:54:42,078
Oh, okay.

1140
00:54:42,078 --> 00:54:42,198
Great.

1141
00:54:42,198 --> 00:54:45,468
You guys get to see my,
um, my other tattoo later.

1142
00:54:45,618 --> 00:54:48,018
So I am at Exodus Tattoo.

1143
00:54:48,378 --> 00:54:54,618
Uh, I can also be found on
Instagram and we'll put my handles.

1144
00:54:54,738 --> 00:54:55,488
Yes, wherever those are.

1145
00:54:55,488 --> 00:54:57,258
They'll be in the show notes and the blog.

1146
00:54:57,468 --> 00:55:00,768
Um, I'm also on Facebook and TikTok.

1147
00:55:01,623 --> 00:55:03,453
I mostly, I'm mostly on Instagram.

1148
00:55:03,453 --> 00:55:07,203
That's my favorite
space to engage and, um,

1149
00:55:07,203 --> 00:55:13,953
connect and communicate, um, and
maybe her own YouTube channel podcast.

1150
00:55:13,953 --> 00:55:14,763
All the things.

1151
00:55:14,763 --> 00:55:15,393
Soon.

1152
00:55:15,423 --> 00:55:17,583
We've been talking about all
kinds of things, so I'm just gonna

1153
00:55:17,588 --> 00:55:19,653
tease, tease that, like be ready.

1154
00:55:19,713 --> 00:55:20,493
Oh, I do have a website.

1155
00:55:20,608 --> 00:55:20,828
Do

1156
00:55:20,828 --> 00:55:21,388
you have a website?

1157
00:55:21,388 --> 00:55:22,108
Oh, yes, it's on that.

1158
00:55:22,138 --> 00:55:25,503
It's, um, I'll have it below or
she'll have it wherever, but,

1159
00:55:25,503 --> 00:55:27,333
um, contemporary to tell.com.

1160
00:55:27,963 --> 00:55:30,453
Um, you can look at some work there.

1161
00:55:30,768 --> 00:55:32,058
Request a consult there

1162
00:55:32,688 --> 00:55:33,588
and, um, yeah.

1163
00:55:34,548 --> 00:55:35,238
Perfect.

1164
00:55:35,268 --> 00:55:36,078
Well, thank you.

1165
00:55:36,108 --> 00:55:39,228
Thanks for joining us on practically
magic today, and uh, I will follow

1166
00:55:39,228 --> 00:55:43,578
up with the outro later Please.

1167
00:55:43,836 --> 00:55:44,106
Hello.

1168
00:55:45,006 --> 00:55:46,176
Welcome back.

1169
00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:51,186
We just got finished up with our Tu.

1170
00:55:53,061 --> 00:55:54,051
Appointment.

1171
00:55:54,111 --> 00:55:58,431
I just, um, got done with our
wonderful discussion with Liberty.

1172
00:55:58,731 --> 00:56:03,561
We continue to talk even after the
recording stopped about so many

1173
00:56:03,561 --> 00:56:09,351
amazing things that we have an
alignment talking about the cosmos,

1174
00:56:09,351 --> 00:56:16,881
the shifts in energy purpose, how,
um, how she has such an amazing

1175
00:56:16,941 --> 00:56:19,731
ability and gift that she's only only.

1176
00:56:20,181 --> 00:56:26,331
Begun to explore a little bit within
herself is to be able to see people's

1177
00:56:26,331 --> 00:56:33,021
ancestral connections and, and, um,
she really is quite a mystical person,

1178
00:56:33,051 --> 00:56:36,651
even though she's just been able
to recognize that within herself.

1179
00:56:37,221 --> 00:56:42,081
And, uh, that's what I love so much
about, um, go, going to her for.

1180
00:56:42,521 --> 00:56:47,111
Uh, my first and second tattoo
is just that she takes such

1181
00:56:47,111 --> 00:56:50,921
great care and consideration into
all of the meanings behind it.

1182
00:56:50,951 --> 00:56:55,511
And, and the experience of
sitting in her chair is a healing

1183
00:56:55,511 --> 00:56:56,801
experience in and of itself.

1184
00:56:57,671 --> 00:56:59,711
Um, so thank you so much, Liberty.

1185
00:56:59,861 --> 00:57:04,661
She's listening to this recording
later, but I had such an amazing time.

1186
00:57:04,661 --> 00:57:06,791
Always have such a beautiful
experience with her.

1187
00:57:07,956 --> 00:57:12,456
And we got a chance to talk about a
lot of different aspects of, of being

1188
00:57:12,456 --> 00:57:18,816
a part of this community that we are
in and what it means to, uh, to connect

1189
00:57:18,816 --> 00:57:20,496
in such deep and vulnerable ways.

1190
00:57:21,186 --> 00:57:25,776
So I. Be friends with all of
your local tattoo artists.

1191
00:57:25,776 --> 00:57:30,636
I'm sure they're all got a story to tell
and they've all got, um, kind of the come

1192
00:57:30,636 --> 00:57:32,436
from of what brings them to what they do.

1193
00:57:33,096 --> 00:57:41,106
But, uh, as for today, I have my
Celtic tree that I have all done, the

1194
00:57:41,106 --> 00:57:44,196
Celtic Tree Knot, which obviously is.

1195
00:57:44,676 --> 00:57:49,086
The, um, the Tree of Life symbol in
many, many different mythologies is

1196
00:57:49,086 --> 00:57:51,246
very widespread in almost every culture.

1197
00:57:51,546 --> 00:57:55,626
So I feel like that's kind of connecting,
not just to my Celtic ancestry and the

1198
00:57:55,626 --> 00:58:04,056
familial lines of that, but also to
humans and to science and the, the way

1199
00:58:04,056 --> 00:58:06,486
that energy exists in the universe.

1200
00:58:07,206 --> 00:58:09,816
But for me in particular,
it was a very Celtic.

1201
00:58:10,191 --> 00:58:14,961
Inspired tattoo, something that connects
me to the healing work that I do and

1202
00:58:14,961 --> 00:58:20,661
the storytelling work that I do in
the realm of the Celtic tradition.

1203
00:58:21,801 --> 00:58:29,751
And because my son's birth mom
has a tattoo of his, our son's.

1204
00:58:30,471 --> 00:58:32,361
Sun sign, Gemini.

1205
00:58:32,601 --> 00:58:35,631
She had tattooed behind her
ear shortly after he was born.

1206
00:58:35,991 --> 00:58:40,161
I have since then always wanted to
match that and have a tattoo at some

1207
00:58:40,161 --> 00:58:42,081
point that matched what she got.

1208
00:58:42,531 --> 00:58:48,561
Just connecting us in that sense that
we are both mothers to the sun we

1209
00:58:48,561 --> 00:58:56,721
have, and um, that I very much respect
and honor her as his mother and.

1210
00:58:57,291 --> 00:59:03,111
So I decided that his sign, the
Gemini symbol, was really perfect

1211
00:59:03,111 --> 00:59:04,701
for the inside of the tree.

1212
00:59:04,971 --> 00:59:08,811
So I got that put inside, like
the trunk of the tree and the

1213
00:59:08,811 --> 00:59:14,211
Gemini, uh, that seemed to all
accumulate very nicely together.

1214
00:59:14,601 --> 00:59:17,181
And then after.

1215
00:59:17,601 --> 00:59:21,231
Many years I had this idea in
mind for a long, long time.

1216
00:59:21,231 --> 00:59:28,371
But after that, I also, uh, connected
very deeply with the Visier Pisces

1217
00:59:28,371 --> 00:59:30,411
symbol and, uh, on the chalice.

1218
00:59:30,411 --> 00:59:34,101
Well, so if you are looking at
the video on YouTube now, you can

1219
00:59:34,101 --> 00:59:36,261
see that I had that same symbol.

1220
00:59:36,711 --> 00:59:38,361
I have a necklace of that symbol as well.

1221
00:59:38,361 --> 00:59:43,551
But when I was in Glastonbury and
obviously we stayed at the St. Michael's

1222
00:59:43,551 --> 00:59:45,591
Inn, that is it at the Chalice.

1223
00:59:45,591 --> 00:59:48,916
Well, and I was able to
really spiritually and,

1224
00:59:51,411 --> 00:59:57,441
and everything else connect with that
symbol and that the chalice, well, it

1225
00:59:57,441 --> 00:59:58,941
was a really powerful experience for me.

1226
00:59:58,941 --> 01:00:04,041
So to honor that, that is something that
I was very much adamant about, right from.

1227
01:00:04,986 --> 01:00:09,516
From seeing that first thing, um, the
symbol being kind of like a Venn diagram,

1228
01:00:09,516 --> 01:00:13,116
but it's, uh, but it's tipped to its side.

1229
01:00:13,506 --> 01:00:15,996
So you have the circle above
and you have the circle below.

1230
01:00:16,176 --> 01:00:18,546
This is a very ornate example of that.

1231
01:00:18,546 --> 01:00:22,326
Obviously it's made out of wrought
iron on the well itself, and it has the

1232
01:00:22,326 --> 01:00:27,336
flowers at the bottom and it has kind
of an intricate design, um, which I

1233
01:00:27,336 --> 01:00:31,236
thought would be beautiful as a tattoo
Anyway, so I wanted to copy that.

1234
01:00:31,911 --> 01:00:38,091
But because I have, um, my son tattooed
in the Celtic tree on one side.

1235
01:00:39,336 --> 01:00:44,496
My other two sons are cancer, and
they have the cancer, which is the

1236
01:00:44,496 --> 01:00:47,466
crab, uh, the symbol that is cancer.

1237
01:00:47,466 --> 01:00:51,606
It kind of has that same shape
that really fits very nicely in

1238
01:00:51,606 --> 01:00:53,766
the center of the Venn diagram.

1239
01:00:53,976 --> 01:00:55,956
It's kind of that crab like shape.

1240
01:00:56,436 --> 01:00:58,806
So I thought, oh my gosh,
this is just perfect.

1241
01:00:59,046 --> 01:01:04,386
So I'm gonna get that same exact image,
but I'm gonna have the cancer symbol

1242
01:01:04,386 --> 01:01:06,816
for my other sons in the center of that.

1243
01:01:07,431 --> 01:01:08,421
Symbol as well.

1244
01:01:08,811 --> 01:01:12,981
So if you can see it on the video, you'll
see the cancer is there in the middle.

1245
01:01:13,311 --> 01:01:20,091
And um, and so now I have tattoos
that symbolize my calling, my purpose,

1246
01:01:20,091 --> 01:01:25,761
initiating me into what I feel is the
work of Priestessing in my life, but

1247
01:01:25,761 --> 01:01:31,731
also a little nod and shout out to
my kids and having them be a tattoo.

1248
01:01:32,571 --> 01:01:34,071
In a tattoo as well.

1249
01:01:34,461 --> 01:01:37,911
And so the first time I went to go
see Liberty, we had lots of great

1250
01:01:37,911 --> 01:01:41,631
conversations about where it came
to getting that tattoo and where

1251
01:01:41,631 --> 01:01:45,411
I came to the conclusion of, of
that would be the thing that I get.

1252
01:01:45,891 --> 01:01:50,211
Um, if you had asked me, maybe in my
twenties if I would ever get a tattoo,

1253
01:01:50,271 --> 01:01:54,381
I was in a place and time in my life
where I was like, no, I don't think so.

1254
01:01:54,381 --> 01:01:59,301
I don't think I could ever
love something enough or.

1255
01:02:00,591 --> 01:02:05,661
Feel connected to an image so much that
I would want it on my body forever.

1256
01:02:06,651 --> 01:02:11,601
However, things change, people
change, and the truth is, I know

1257
01:02:11,601 --> 01:02:14,241
coming into this, at this point in
my life, that this isn't something I

1258
01:02:14,241 --> 01:02:16,941
would ever regret getting or having.

1259
01:02:17,661 --> 01:02:21,801
Um, I did think that, you know, when
I was younger, tattoos were like, Hmm,

1260
01:02:22,671 --> 01:02:25,821
you know what if it's kind of like when
you're a kid and you get a backpack.

1261
01:02:26,331 --> 01:02:30,921
Something you really love at that time,
but by the next school year, you're not

1262
01:02:30,921 --> 01:02:32,931
really into that thing as much anymore.

1263
01:02:33,681 --> 01:02:37,281
And I, and I thought of it as there
could never be anything that I would

1264
01:02:37,281 --> 01:02:41,421
be so into that it would be timeless,
that I would never not be into it.

1265
01:02:41,961 --> 01:02:45,921
Um, for those who knew me in high
school, middle school, I would've

1266
01:02:45,921 --> 01:02:47,361
gotten a tattoo of X-Files.

1267
01:02:47,391 --> 01:02:52,641
That was my end all be all I
X-Files was everything to me loved.

1268
01:02:52,641 --> 01:02:53,841
X-Files the show.

1269
01:02:53,841 --> 01:03:00,981
So much so I would've had XFiles
tattoos on me, and I still love XFiles.

1270
01:03:00,981 --> 01:03:02,541
I think it's a great show.

1271
01:03:02,541 --> 01:03:05,991
Still watch it sometimes when
I'm, you know, feeling nostalgic.

1272
01:03:05,991 --> 01:03:09,531
But the truth is, I don't think I
would've loved a tattoo of XFiles on me.

1273
01:03:09,531 --> 01:03:10,041
Now.

1274
01:03:11,601 --> 01:03:16,911
So I do think that this is something that,
for me is part of the initiation process

1275
01:03:16,911 --> 01:03:22,731
in feeling like I have come into myself
and into a place, although I've never,

1276
01:03:22,821 --> 01:03:28,731
I've, I'm never going to just arrive at a
place where I'm an ordained priestess with

1277
01:03:28,731 --> 01:03:32,331
someone else's authority bestowed upon me.

1278
01:03:32,901 --> 01:03:35,661
The fact of the matter, ising
is something that is just a

1279
01:03:35,661 --> 01:03:38,391
calling through life that we do.

1280
01:03:38,546 --> 01:03:45,506
We are people devoted to serving self,
serving others, and serving source.

1281
01:03:45,506 --> 01:03:50,846
And that is where I, um, I feel that as
long as I continue on that path, I, um,

1282
01:03:51,776 --> 01:03:53,756
I'm allowed to call myself priestess.

1283
01:03:54,446 --> 01:04:00,356
And I, and I do, I have given myself
that title and I think that that's,

1284
01:04:01,046 --> 01:04:02,636
that's the way that it should be.

1285
01:04:03,776 --> 01:04:07,286
So hopefully this has given
you some experience into what.

1286
01:04:07,926 --> 01:04:14,076
What this process could be like, who
you meet and the experiences that you

1287
01:04:14,076 --> 01:04:20,106
have with them that can be much more
than ordinary, that even tattooing,

1288
01:04:20,106 --> 01:04:24,066
which some people engage with as just
an aesthetic thing where they're just

1289
01:04:24,066 --> 01:04:26,166
getting art, being put on their bodies.

1290
01:04:26,886 --> 01:04:31,026
Um, everything that we do, no matter what.

1291
01:04:32,376 --> 01:04:35,496
No matter what it is, no matter
what we engage in day to day or

1292
01:04:35,496 --> 01:04:42,576
our mundane activities, that we
can find connection spiritually and

1293
01:04:42,576 --> 01:04:44,676
emotionally through those experiences.

1294
01:04:44,736 --> 01:04:48,876
So I hope that you go through your
day after listening to this episode

1295
01:04:48,936 --> 01:04:51,636
and say, how can I make this day?

1296
01:04:51,981 --> 01:04:56,661
Magical and important
and sacred in some way.

1297
01:04:57,501 --> 01:05:00,741
So I want you to think about
that as you go through it and be

1298
01:05:00,921 --> 01:05:03,171
the magical person that you are.

1299
01:05:03,171 --> 01:05:09,531
Find the magic and the find
the mystical in this day today.

1300
01:05:10,431 --> 01:05:13,461
So go make magic, witches and
wizards and we'll see you next time.