The Power of Curses: Myth, Reality, and Magick

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Hello, welcome back to Practically Magick.

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This is season two of our
show and I am Courtney Pearl.

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Today, I am acting as your Celtic
folk witch and we are back to

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learn and discover the true Magick
and real Magick of the world.

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Energies, Magick, Magick practicing,
all of the things that make your life.

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easier and better and remind
you that you are all powerful.

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Okay, let's get into it.

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I am so excited to be back.

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I took about a month off, six weeks off.

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During the summertime, my kids are home.

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I really wanted to gather some new
ideas and get ready and be fresh

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again for another season of the show.

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And I feel like I've done that.

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I've also learned a lot about

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getting social media up and going and
getting some of this information that I

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like to share with you out into the world.

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So I hope that I have done that.

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I hope that I've been doing a good job
of that because the whole reason for the

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podcast, for my social media, for a lot
of the courses and classes that I offer

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is to help educate people on how they
can be powerful, how they can take a

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little bit more of an active role
in the Magick of their lives.

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And I also really, really love
to dabble into the folklore and

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mythologies and how they
play a part in all of that.

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So I've been doing some
storytelling events.

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so much fun.

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Yeah, it's been a fun, busy summer.

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My kids are back in school.

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And so I'm excited to
be back to recording.

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And if you did not listen or watch season
one's final finale, I guess it was, I

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had just blamed the CEO of Ride the Wave
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He produces all of my episodes and he's
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And he was a guest on my podcast for
the last episode, kind of talking about

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all of the things that we had done.

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for season one, where we were headed.

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And it was also the announcement of
the Witch Movie Project, which is a

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side project we're doing connected
to Practically Magick, where we

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have been watching and reviewing
two witch movies each episode.

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And so we're already recording for
those and that has been a blast.

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I cannot wait for you to hear it.

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When we release that, it will be
at the beginning of September.

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So watch out for that
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and ready to dive into that with us.

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It's gonna be a blast to do
16 different movies total,

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all having to do with witches.

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And we are getting ready
for Samhain or Halloween.

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So all of them are leading
up to the end of October.

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So let's get into our
episode today though.

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And that is, of course, as always,
we are going to pull a card.

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I debated whether or not this season
I wanted to continue this opening, but

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I do feel like just pulling one card
and briefly telling you what it might

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mean for you, I do think that that does
set the tone for being Magickal or for

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letting this experience be for you.

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So let's find out.

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I'm using the Witch's Wisdom deck
this time because it is just...

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one of my favorites.

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It's very detailed and I feel like
the artwork is just so vivid and

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so bright and colorful and
full of symbol symbolism.

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So I actually am pulling two cards here.

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I usually pull one, but I got
the nine of fire and for this

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deck the image in this card.

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specifically and for those who are
watching on YouTube, I am going

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to show the image of the card.

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So if you are just listening to the audio
only of this pop on over to YouTube.

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You can see the picture.

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It is like if abundance was a
picture, this is what it would be.

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And I feel like that is
incredibly incredibly perfect

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for this particular time of year.

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The time that I'm recording
this it is during the season

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heading towards the equinox.

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We just celebrated Lunasad or
Lammas or Gwil -aust, which

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is the beginning of August.

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That is marked in the Celtic
or pagan calendar wheel of

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the year as the first harvest.

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And it's not just pagans that
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comes from ancient traditions.

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usually in Northern European traditions
that came from a long time ago.

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You know, there were feasts and festivals
at this time of year because this is when

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the first vegetables and fruits and wheat

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were harvested.

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So this is when the fruits of your
labors literally would be harvested

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and you would get to see just how much
the hard work you put in all year.

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was going to come to fruition.

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Like back in in bulk during February time
of the year, you're starting to plant,

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you're starting to plant seeds, you're
starting to put in the work of hope and

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manifestation and energy and counting
your chickens before they've hatched.

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Just hoping that all of that
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energy, all that thought, all that
planning was going to result in.

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taking care of you later.

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You were gonna get to
see that come back and

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in ancient times, obviously that
was a connection to whether or not

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you were gonna survive the winter.

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You needed a good harvest.

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You and your family would need
a good harvest in order to be

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able to survive the winter.

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So that's really important.

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Modern times, when we have grocery
stores and we have price hikes and

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sales and we have to worry about that.

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the economy going the
direction that it's going.

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We need to worry about whether or
not we're to be able to afford our

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fruits and vegetables, but we aren't
so much concerned about whether or

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not we're going to survive the winter.

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And this applies more so in
our business, in our personal

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lives, in our professional lives.

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What sort of things have you been
putting into action, putting into

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planning that are now going to
be put into the physical world?

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So because this is the number nine in
fire, the fire element often symbolizes

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what we are physically, actively
going to see come of this, right?

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It's gonna be no longer in our
thoughts, no longer just in our

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planning or our visualizations, but
now is going to manifest into the

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real world as actual physical things.

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And it's kind of putting it into action.

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This card is really, really a wonderful
card because it's kind of like, all right,

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the fruits and vegetables are on the vine.

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They are on the plant.

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Are you ready to take it?

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That's the question for you today is now
that stuff is starting to come at you,

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opportunities, things you've wanted.

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Are you ready to pick?

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Are you ready to harvest or
are you going to let it rot?

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What is it that you're actually asking for
and is it something you really wanted now

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that you have it or now that it's ready?

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It's at your fingertips.

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It's interesting because I also pulled
a second card on not on purpose, but

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this is just the way the cards fell out.

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So I always take that to mean
it definitely is meant for us.

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I got the messenger of air.

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And it's kind of this
nymph like character.

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haven't read the guidebook, I typically
don't, but this is nymph like characters,

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not quite human, almost of the fey world
holding a Canadian goose in their arms.

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It's kind of like a baby, very
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the question that I ask myself
for you listener is, are you

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Are you being gentle with
yourself as far as the thoughts

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you're having in your mind?

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you being really hard
on yourself right now?

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Are you beating yourself up a lot?

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Are you saying I could
have or should have a lot?

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if you will, do you have
the case of the shoulds?

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That's something that gets brought up a
lot in my healing work, emotional healing

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is, do you have the case of the shoulds?

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Is someone shooting all over you?

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And if that's the case, maybe, maybe.

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Just take a moment to
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how you can be more mindful of
your thoughts, mindful of how you

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talk to yourself in your mind.

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Because as you know from this

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podcast, this message I have for you
since episode one of season one, I

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have been talking about the power of
thought and words, that the words,

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the will and the way create spells.

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And so I think that that card is
just a really good reminder of

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Maybe just asking yourself, how
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How is that going?

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Maybe that is a perfect opportunity
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I have been toying with the idea of doing
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as we're kind of coming into the format.

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season one of Practically Magick and
how I've been able to get a lot of

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really good information out to people.

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And I am by no means an expert or guru
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to learn and I do love to teach and I
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that you can be the decider of how much
of it you believe in, how much of it

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you practice, how much of it helps you.

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If you have different ideas than what I'm
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Email me, message me, get on my
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your experience has been or whether
you agree or disagree with me.

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And that can be a great subject
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absolutely, I don't give myself the
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the end all be all of all things Magickal,
but I do love to learn and I do love to

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collect just what it is that I and by the
way, Magick and belief and faith is fluid.

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It's never something that's going
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forever or nor should it, I think.

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The kind of Magickal
practitioner or priestess or

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healing facilitator or empowerment midwife
that I have been before in my past.

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It's changed a lot even just
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The more I learn and the more I
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more I'm like, hmm, maybe I don't
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Maybe there's just a shift
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You're early in your journey of
becoming a Magickal person and you get

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to discover those things on your own.

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And one of the things that has been
brought to my attention lately, so

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instead of ending with question from
a listener, as I tried to do in the

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first season, I am going to start with
questions from a listener and let that

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be the subject of our episode today.

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So what we've done is in season one,
I had a couple of times here and there

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where I sort of joked about curses.

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I would say something like, you I
don't curse unless I charge extra.

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And I tried to kind of just joke
about, you know, cursing or being

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a witch and what that looks like or
how that actually comes into play.

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And it's interesting because I had someone
who came to me who was someone I know

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personally, but also had been listening
to the show and said, my gosh, like.

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You weren't serious, right?

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I mean, you never said you were kidding.

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So I was worried.

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like, you don't actually
curse people, right?

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You don't believe in that, right?

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And I think that gave me an opportunity to
really kind of stop and think about that

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for a moment because I think that that is
a huge, huge topic of discussion with when

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talking about witchcraft and when talking
about Magickal practitioners and how

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they show up as whatever
title they call themselves.

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There is a lot obviously centuries of
propaganda against witches, witchcraft

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and the association with Satanism and the
devil and it being evil and it being anti

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-Christian or being anti -good or light.

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And you know, there's such thing,
labels like I'm a white witch or

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I'm a dark witch or like what sort
of things that they do or practice.

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And so I think this is a perfect
opportunity to address it in the way

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that I understand it and believe it.

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So let's talk about curses
and hexes just for a second.

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There's a lot of famous curses.

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I loved kind of diving into this and doing
a little bit of research, but if you have

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ever heard of King Tut's curse, February
of 1923, they opened King Tut's tomb.

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And then a lot of team members from the
dig and the archeologists and things

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like that were mysteriously dying.

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A team sponsor died of an
infection two months after.

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And then some other
members of the team died.

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And this just went rampant in the
newspapers, like, okay, there's a curse.

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That makes a good story.

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In fact, that's what the premise of the
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A lot of team members died after
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so one of the team members
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mean, can be, know, people dying
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There's the curse of the Hope Diamond.

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rumor that this diamond was cursed by
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I was gifted it.

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a teenager and I took pictures of it.

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around a diamond that I couldn't find
anywhere where the people who had any

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association with this diamond were
actually cursed or had died or had

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gotten ill or anything like that.

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It was just something that was like,
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there was a story where he had cursed
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of the United States, when the
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It was said that all of the US
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years ending in zero would be fatal.

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you believe in it.

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Interesting, right?

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So I don't know if the curse is broken
or what, but I did read about this really

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It's a chest of drawers that
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built this chest of drawers for
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suspect, had cursed the chest.

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and that anybody using it would die.

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chest actually has claimed 18 victims,
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of a lot statistically if think about it.

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There's a Rockefeller family
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into the idea of family curses.

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there's grandchildren and
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Rockefeller Sr.

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who have died in strange ways.

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members that have died of suicide.

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There's a boat overturned and a car crash
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But I think it's really, really
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this idea of family curses.

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This family is cursed or has had
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that finally someone comes along
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an experience and somehow be able to
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ancestral healing, that there is something
absolutely to the idea that you would

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want to identify certain things that run
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you've had or experiences your family
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and coping mechanisms for that
trauma that don't serve you now.

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And if you don't know what I'm talking
about or this sounds really confusing

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to you, please go back to season
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ancestral trauma and generational
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into how that can actually affect you.

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curses look a lot different than

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what we typically Hollywood or

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I don't know, fiction would
have you believe about

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witchcraft, energy, and cursing.

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them and as they've kind of become
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connotations that bring up to mind
like someone doing some kind of ritual,

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maybe a blood sacrifice, know, something
traumatic, dramatic and exciting that

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would make it so that some Magickal
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has performed this ritual and cursed
this family, this tomb, this diamond,

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this chest of drawers, whatever it is.

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And the truth, when we get right
down to it, there is a lot of cursing

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going on we actually participate in
every single day, every single moment.

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you that curses are like a placebo.

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If you believe yourself to be cursed,
you're going to manifest that anyway

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or a lot more things will fall in
line with the idea of being cursed.

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something is, if you have that

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belief already, it's kind of like
a self -fulfilling prophecy, right?

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You're going to say like,

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I'm so cursed with microwaves.

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I just made that up on the spot.

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I have no idea where that came from.

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this belief that they're like,

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every time I try to use a microwave,
the microwave stops working and it

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doesn't and it breaks and blah, blah.

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because they're already like
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microwaves correctly.

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I don't know.

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probably would go in more of a

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scientific explanation that it's
not actually a curse or there's

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nothing actually happening there.

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It's just that, you know, if you're
told to look for a blue car, you

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will see blue cars all day long.

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How many times did you
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You might go, I have no idea.

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I wasn't looking for blue cars.

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I didn't see any blue cars.

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But I also believe in the unseen,
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have to do with our own thoughts and
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out into the universe with that thought
and fear, we are resonating at a certain

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frequency that's going to cause more
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because that's what we're resonating with.

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We're attracting that thing.

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it was, the words, episode about
words is like how you pray for

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something, the words that you use.

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universe does not understand that.

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The universe only understands
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you're putting into those words.

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So if you're putting fear of
something, the universe is going to

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say, they want that something, right?

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energy, the universe attaches

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to the frequency of the thing
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So there is something to that.

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There is something to
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But here's where I really try to help my
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my children or someone that I'm
having a discussion with about this, I

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would want them to understand is that

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Curses and hexes, not necessarily
a ritual or ceremony or spell

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that you put into practice.

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And that there are many witches who
do do that, but that there are belief

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systems on whatever you put out into
the universe, you get back threefold.

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That's kind of a Wiccan doctrine
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It's like it's up to each own witch
practitioner to understand that mentality

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and to practice it using their discretion
and their own morals and values.

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When this person that I know was concerned
when I said I would do a curse for someone

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with discharging extra, I was kidding.

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Really, I was.

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But it does beg the question,
why are we so afraid?

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when we hear that word curse or hex.

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Why is it that we believe there is
something demonizing about that?

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Because in my experience,

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There is no such thing as
pure love and light Magick.

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Just as I don't believe there's anything
as darkness and evil, that there is

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a separation of that when it comes
to the way we practice with Magick

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or the way we practice with energy or
the way we just move through our life.

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You may not consider yourself
to be a Magick practitioner or

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witch or anything like that, but
how do you move through your day?

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Is there ever such a thing as a

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purely love and light person who
walks through their day like that?

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are we demonizing humanity by saying,
I would never curse and I would

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never this and I would never that.

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I would never think ill of anyone.

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I would never

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project that or put that out there.

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The truth is almost all of us have.

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And how many times a day
are you cursing yourself?

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Quite honestly, how many times do
you think to yourself, can't do that.

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I want to do that, but
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I don't deserve that.

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I'm not worthy of that.

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There isn't anyone walking the planet
that doesn't have thoughts like that

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consistently throughout the day.

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Even as we're all on an effort or a
journey to heal that part of ourselves

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and to think differently and to change
our thoughts into positive thinking,

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I think we need to be careful because
in demonizing it, we're kind of

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taking that Christian or even karmic
or the New Age version of karma,

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which isn't even what karma is.

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But let's just say from the understanding
of what karma is, if we're taking

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that idea and we're saying, so this,
we're putting this out into the

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universe, we're going to get that back.

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Just as I explained that all
emotions are valid emotions.

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Emotions can resonate at lower
levels and higher levels, but that

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doesn't make them evil or bad.

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When I explained to children
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they don't feel very good in our
bodies but they have a purpose.

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that there isn't such a thing
as just good spells and cursing.

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I would say you need to be careful about
what you're spending your time doing

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and how much and the reasons for it.

460
00:31:15,028 --> 00:31:19,868
But I would be very careful to
put a label on something like

461
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,708
this is good and this is bad.

462
00:31:23,448 --> 00:31:30,368
In my experience with the things that
exist in realms that we only have

463
00:31:31,158 --> 00:31:36,948
some idea about and quantum physics
is pretty clear on the fact that there

464
00:31:36,958 --> 00:31:41,018
is other realms that we are living in
other dimensions and that there are

465
00:31:41,878 --> 00:31:44,058
alternate universes and things like that.

466
00:31:44,668 --> 00:31:48,218
When we're diving into kind of that
belief system and that, you know,

467
00:31:48,248 --> 00:31:52,208
playing around with that kind of
Magick, we need to understand that

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469
00:31:54,148 --> 00:31:59,148
Just like there's a varying degree of
emotions that we can experience as a

470
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human being, there's also a varying
degree of participation that we can

471
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have in the other worldly influences.

472
00:32:09,758 --> 00:32:10,938
It depends on your belief system.

473
00:32:11,318 --> 00:32:14,828
If you're a Christian and you believe
that there are demonic forces at work

474
00:32:14,828 --> 00:32:20,988
and that there's evil forces at work and
that there is a double that you could

475
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for somehow be in participation with.

476
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I would argue, well, whether you
call it that or not, we are dabbling

477
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:33,198
in those forces all the time.

478
00:32:34,058 --> 00:32:41,618
Even the best of us who believe that
we are saintly and following the line

479
00:32:41,618 --> 00:32:48,448
with everything that Jesus taught us
to be and to do, we are dabbling in

480
00:32:49,168 --> 00:32:53,768
thoughts and feelings that come
up that we have to address, that

481
00:32:53,768 --> 00:32:55,808
we can't deny or avoid, right?

482
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Doubts and fears are part
of the human experience.

483
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So I don't know if I've made
myself entirely clear on

484
00:33:05,678 --> 00:33:07,978
that, but I will say this.

485
00:33:09,118 --> 00:33:12,118
I do a demonstration
with my students where

486
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I will do some muscle testing.

487
00:33:14,598 --> 00:33:16,838
And if you don't know what muscle
testing is, and I'm going to

488
00:33:16,848 --> 00:33:18,098
be showing this on the camera.

489
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So if you again are just listening
to audio, you might want to pop over

490
00:33:21,508 --> 00:33:24,168
to YouTube and watch this episode.

491
00:33:25,798 --> 00:33:29,498
When I do kinesiology or muscle
testing with my clients, with

492
00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:36,718
healing work that I do, I will demonstrate
for them by pushing on their arm.

493
00:33:37,438 --> 00:33:42,468
And when something is true
or a higher frequency,

494
00:33:42,728 --> 00:33:49,218
it produces energy that is strong and can
be felt through the muscles of the body.

495
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So I just do a light pressure on their arm
and I can feel strong test the arm stays

496
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strong and I tell them just try to hold
your arm, resist my pressing down on it.

497
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But when I say something that's
false or untrue or against what

498
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the body wants to resonate at, the
muscles will actually lose energy.

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So it will, same amount of pressure
that I'm pushing down, it will lose

501
00:34:18,458 --> 00:34:20,538
energy and the arm will go weak.

502
00:34:21,248 --> 00:34:25,578
So this is a good way for me to be
able to identify things like what

503
00:34:25,598 --> 00:34:29,768
age do we need to address when
we are doing some healing work?

504
00:34:31,098 --> 00:34:32,178
What sort of

505
00:34:34,598 --> 00:34:39,108
vitamins or crystals or
flower essences or herbs or?

506
00:34:40,218 --> 00:34:43,808
whatever that might be, or a 10
-point priority wellness plan, what

507
00:34:43,808 --> 00:34:47,678
does this body really need to help it
get to optimal health and wellness?

508
00:34:48,518 --> 00:34:50,438
So I use muscle testing a lot in my work.

509
00:34:51,688 --> 00:34:54,058
You can call it witchcraft if you want to.

510
00:34:54,438 --> 00:34:57,038
I don't think there's a
huge difference to me.

511
00:34:57,408 --> 00:35:02,428
Personally, I feel like it is Magick,
but so is a flower that blooms.

512
00:35:03,558 --> 00:35:07,598
So is a mushroom that shows
up in your yard overnight.

513
00:35:08,368 --> 00:35:09,788
That's all Magick.

514
00:35:09,958 --> 00:35:13,708
That's incredibly Magickal to
me that those things exist.

515
00:35:14,968 --> 00:35:20,608
That doesn't make them not
scientifically real and explainable.

516
00:35:21,098 --> 00:35:23,168
And kinesiology is the same.

517
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There are accredited colleges
that study kinesiology.

518
00:35:26,698 --> 00:35:29,518
So it's a very real
practice, a real thing.

519
00:35:31,198 --> 00:35:34,098
But it is kind of Magickal because
it can allow you to ask the body

520
00:35:34,098 --> 00:35:36,748
questions and to get to the heart
of some things that are going on.

521
00:35:37,778 --> 00:35:41,158
And this demonstration I do with my
students is I have one of my students

522
00:35:41,168 --> 00:35:46,898
stand facing away from the group
and I have them stick their arm out

523
00:35:46,968 --> 00:35:52,018
and I say to the rest of the group,
I'm going to give you a thumbs up

524
00:35:52,018 --> 00:35:53,868
or thumbs down behind their back.

525
00:35:54,418 --> 00:35:59,148
If I do a thumbs up, I want you to
think really positive, affirming

526
00:35:59,218 --> 00:36:01,898
thoughts towards this person.

527
00:36:03,338 --> 00:36:07,268
If I give a thumbs
down, I want you to give

528
00:36:07,318 --> 00:36:16,418
kind of, not degrading, but like negative,
like you can't do this doubtful, fearful

529
00:36:17,368 --> 00:36:23,248
kind of thoughts towards the person, not
at them, but just like directed at them.

530
00:36:23,388 --> 00:36:23,758
Okay.

531
00:36:24,398 --> 00:36:26,908
So I do this as a demonstration.

532
00:36:26,928 --> 00:36:28,998
So they don't say any of this out loud.

533
00:36:29,028 --> 00:36:30,228
It's all in their thoughts.

534
00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:35,498
And the person who's facing
the opposite way does not know

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If I'm giving a thumbs up or a
thumbs down, they don't know if

537
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they're going to be getting good
energy or lower vibration energy.

538
00:36:42,788 --> 00:36:47,188
And see there, I said good energy when
really it's just higher vibration energy.

539
00:36:47,388 --> 00:36:49,158
No such thing as good or bad, right?

540
00:36:50,978 --> 00:36:55,498
So sometimes you have to like retrain
yourself because you've got all that

541
00:36:55,838 --> 00:36:58,538
programming from childhood into your mind.

542
00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,578
So trying to get rid of that vocabulary.

543
00:37:01,728 --> 00:37:04,968
But yeah, so the rest of the group is

544
00:37:06,268 --> 00:37:07,798
putting that energy towards them.

545
00:37:08,388 --> 00:37:13,798
And in every demonstration I've ever
seen or done myself, the muscles of the

546
00:37:13,798 --> 00:37:19,358
person facing away will go weak when
negative energy is directed at them.

547
00:37:20,078 --> 00:37:24,908
And their arm will stay strong when
positive energy is directed towards them.

548
00:37:25,778 --> 00:37:30,438
They will be able to tell based on the
muscles energy of their body, telling

549
00:37:30,438 --> 00:37:33,978
them everyone is giving positive
or everyone is giving negative.

550
00:37:35,648 --> 00:37:42,948
And that to me helps me understand
and teach my students what cursing

551
00:37:43,078 --> 00:37:46,128
really can look like in real life.

552
00:37:46,638 --> 00:37:49,478
The energy and thought and intention
that you're putting out into the

553
00:37:49,478 --> 00:37:54,118
universe, whether it's for someone
else or for yourself, it matters.

554
00:37:54,688 --> 00:37:58,748
It is going to either influence that
person in a positive way, giving them

555
00:37:58,748 --> 00:38:03,348
energy and strong and capable vibes.

556
00:38:03,908 --> 00:38:06,193
or it's going to be giving
them, you can't do this.

557
00:38:06,408 --> 00:38:07,828
You don't know what you're
doing kind of vibes.

558
00:38:09,808 --> 00:38:14,938
Now I do believe we can protect ourselves
by giving ourselves that positive vibes.

559
00:38:15,648 --> 00:38:19,298
So whether the whole world is
thinking negatively about us or

560
00:38:19,298 --> 00:38:21,778
not, we can protect our energy.

561
00:38:22,818 --> 00:38:28,118
But I do give this as a demonstration
to students who are around the age

562
00:38:28,118 --> 00:38:32,658
of nine to 12 year olds because

563
00:38:33,098 --> 00:38:38,388
they're in that age where they're starting
to kind of get into their little groups

564
00:38:38,388 --> 00:38:44,098
and cliques and you know, some kids fit
in, some kids don't and you get into those

565
00:38:44,138 --> 00:38:50,308
kind of, I don't know, interactions with
each other that are like, either you're

566
00:38:50,308 --> 00:38:55,328
gonna like point someone out as different
and make fun of them or you're going to

567
00:38:55,328 --> 00:39:00,158
embrace everyone and be friends or you're
gonna be the one who's cast out of the.

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569
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group and made to feel different and
strange and that you don't belong.

570
00:39:06,148 --> 00:39:12,028
And I want kids to believe that they
have the power to either encourage and

571
00:39:12,028 --> 00:39:17,658
uplift each other or to curse each other.

572
00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:25,298
And I want to leave a final maybe quote
on the subject of curses and hexes.

573
00:39:26,608 --> 00:39:28,678
I have not in this episode

574
00:39:28,758 --> 00:39:34,188
taught you how to curse or hex or maybe
I have if that's what you were going for.

575
00:39:34,258 --> 00:39:38,108
But if you're listening because
you wanted to try to learn how to

576
00:39:38,108 --> 00:39:42,568
curse and hex, I can tell you right
now, it doesn't matter what you do.

577
00:39:42,708 --> 00:39:45,318
You can make your make up your own ritual.

578
00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:49,688
You can light a candle and say,
I wish this person were dead.

579
00:39:49,708 --> 00:39:52,918
I wish this person were
harmed in some way.

580
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:54,838
I wish this person's hair would fall out.

581
00:39:55,428 --> 00:39:57,678
This is the kind of stuff you're
going to see in the witch movies that

582
00:39:57,738 --> 00:40:00,228
we're reviewing in the
which movie project, by the

583
00:40:00,228 --> 00:40:01,518
way, is this kind of stuff.

584
00:40:02,638 --> 00:40:07,758
And while you might be judgmental
judging those kinds of things

585
00:40:07,758 --> 00:40:10,028
and saying, that's wrong.

586
00:40:10,038 --> 00:40:10,808
That's bad.

587
00:40:10,818 --> 00:40:13,958
A bad witch would curse a
good witch doesn't curse.

588
00:40:14,568 --> 00:40:22,038
I would tempt you to question that
thinking and question even the

589
00:40:22,358 --> 00:40:24,868
classification of good and bad.

590
00:40:25,428 --> 00:40:25,838
Now,

591
00:40:26,698 --> 00:40:31,868
just like I wouldn't physically
walk up to someone and harm them

592
00:40:31,868 --> 00:40:36,068
on purpose, even someone I didn't
like very much or that had hurt me.

593
00:40:36,858 --> 00:40:41,218
I wouldn't do that because that's
my morals and values telling me that

594
00:40:41,218 --> 00:40:43,018
that doesn't feel good in my body.

595
00:40:43,048 --> 00:40:44,968
That doesn't feel warm.

596
00:40:44,998 --> 00:40:47,878
That doesn't feel like the
right thing to do for me.

597
00:40:49,808 --> 00:40:54,858
So I do not perform curses
and hexes using ritual and

598
00:40:55,698 --> 00:40:58,098
symbols and and witchcraft.

599
00:40:59,158 --> 00:41:03,648
But I'm not going to say that
that's a bad thing to do.

600
00:41:04,258 --> 00:41:04,968
And here's why.

601
00:41:05,758 --> 00:41:10,888
I'm going to take a quote from one of my
favorite favorite witch practitioners.

602
00:41:11,408 --> 00:41:12,778
She is Marla Starling.

603
00:41:12,808 --> 00:41:13,968
She lives in Wales.

604
00:41:14,298 --> 00:41:15,208
No wonder I love her.

605
00:41:15,238 --> 00:41:15,728
Right.

606
00:41:16,008 --> 00:41:16,638
I love Wales.

607
00:41:17,118 --> 00:41:18,068
You don't know me by now.

608
00:41:18,078 --> 00:41:18,508
You don't know.

609
00:41:18,658 --> 00:41:19,388
I love Wales.

610
00:41:20,018 --> 00:41:21,988
And she is the author of Welsh Witchcraft.

611
00:41:22,038 --> 00:41:25,208
She is also the podcast,
The Welsh Witch and

612
00:41:25,718 --> 00:41:26,082
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613
00:41:26,148 --> 00:41:27,448
She has a YouTube channel.

614
00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:32,928
So Mara Starling, who lives in
Wales and practices witchcraft,

615
00:41:33,078 --> 00:41:37,708
specifically Welsh witchcraft, she
has a chapter in her book, a little

616
00:41:37,708 --> 00:41:40,123
bit discussion about curses and hexes.

617
00:41:40,358 --> 00:41:43,738
And I would like to quote her because
the way she explains it is pretty

618
00:41:43,738 --> 00:41:48,618
much in line with what I've come to
understand about cursing and hexing.

619
00:41:48,688 --> 00:41:49,218
She says,

620
00:41:49,438 --> 00:41:53,968
Historically speaking, curses, hexes,
and baneful Magick are intrinsic

621
00:41:54,008 --> 00:41:56,088
elements of witchcraft's history.

622
00:42:01,848 --> 00:42:06,758
In my experience, life does not
operate in a good or bad binary way.

623
00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:10,928
I believe any witch should meditate
on that and truly delve into

624
00:42:10,928 --> 00:42:12,738
their own views on the topic.

625
00:42:16,138 --> 00:42:21,088
She goes on to say, I also do not
believe that throwing love and light

626
00:42:21,128 --> 00:42:23,158
at all obstacles will fix everything.

627
00:42:23,838 --> 00:42:28,168
Anger, sadness, grief, pain and
trauma are all immensely powerful

628
00:42:28,188 --> 00:42:31,388
energies that can be utilized
beautifully and protective ways.

629
00:42:33,688 --> 00:42:38,308
The ways of my ancestor were not forged
in love, light, bliss and blessings.

630
00:42:38,508 --> 00:42:40,118
Therefore, neither are mine.

631
00:42:41,608 --> 00:42:46,568
She says, knowing yourself is vitally
important to most spiritual practices.

632
00:42:46,638 --> 00:42:50,218
And by questioning and constructing
your own view on morality, you are

633
00:42:50,248 --> 00:42:53,348
in turn expanding your understanding
of your own inner workings

634
00:42:53,418 --> 00:42:55,108
and solidifying your practice.

635
00:42:56,748 --> 00:42:58,718
I just don't think I could
have said it any better.

636
00:43:00,128 --> 00:43:03,428
A lot of what witchcraft has come from

637
00:43:03,548 --> 00:43:07,988
is from oppressed, marginalized groups.

638
00:43:09,068 --> 00:43:13,838
A lot of the witches accused of
witchcraft in witch trials were women,

639
00:43:14,328 --> 00:43:16,168
poor women, and people of color.

640
00:43:17,698 --> 00:43:21,588
a lot of times, witchcraft and the
practice of witchcraft is born out

641
00:43:21,588 --> 00:43:26,728
of people who are marginalized and
oppressed and who need to gain some

642
00:43:26,728 --> 00:43:28,798
control and power over their lives.

643
00:43:29,778 --> 00:43:30,948
They might be

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645
00:43:32,018 --> 00:43:36,168
slaves in slavery and have absolutely
no power over their lives in

646
00:43:36,168 --> 00:43:37,768
that point in time and history.

647
00:43:38,288 --> 00:43:43,708
And witchcraft was a way for
them to gain some autonomy, some

648
00:43:43,728 --> 00:43:46,278
independence and some control or power.

649
00:43:46,798 --> 00:43:53,468
Whether you believe that to be true
or not, that is what it did for them

650
00:43:53,478 --> 00:43:55,798
in relationship to their practice.

651
00:43:56,698 --> 00:44:00,628
So before we judge someone for

652
00:44:00,658 --> 00:44:06,108
cursing or hexing, understanding the
come from and the value system of

653
00:44:06,168 --> 00:44:13,218
allowing that person to gain some
power over their lives is even if it

654
00:44:13,228 --> 00:44:16,418
was a placebo effect, it has purpose.

655
00:44:16,638 --> 00:44:17,498
It has power.

656
00:44:18,208 --> 00:44:21,408
And that would be.

657
00:44:23,318 --> 00:44:25,608
the takeaway for this subject today.

658
00:44:26,188 --> 00:44:30,368
Now next week, I am not going to tell
you what next week's subject is going

659
00:44:30,368 --> 00:44:32,428
to be, although I have some ideas.

660
00:44:32,978 --> 00:44:37,788
This is going to depend solely on
questions from listeners that come in.

661
00:44:38,268 --> 00:44:43,058
So if you have a topic or question
you would like to ask about all

662
00:44:43,078 --> 00:44:49,438
things, energy healing, emotional
healing, the practice of Magick and

663
00:44:49,438 --> 00:44:51,868
understanding Magick in your life.

664
00:44:51,938 --> 00:44:54,398
I would like to hear it,
so please reach out to me.

665
00:44:55,078 --> 00:45:02,368
You can find me on social media,
on Instagram, at Prism underscore

666
00:45:02,368 --> 00:45:06,478
healing, on TikTok, at Prism Healing.

667
00:45:07,688 --> 00:45:09,078
That's P -R -I -S -H -E -A

668
00:45:11,228 --> 00:45:12,538
-L -I -N -G.

669
00:45:12,958 --> 00:45:16,188
Or on Facebook, Courtney
Pearls Prism Healing.

670
00:45:16,918 --> 00:45:19,368
I don't know if you know this, but I am.

671
00:45:19,478 --> 00:45:26,248
the owner and operator and CEO and only
employee of Prism Healing, where I am

672
00:45:26,248 --> 00:45:31,518
a Reiki practitioner, emotional healing
facilitator, and tarot card reader.

673
00:45:32,008 --> 00:45:41,268
So you can reach me and find
me on www .prism -healing .com.

674
00:45:41,598 --> 00:45:45,298
And I am so excited because in
the start of this new season,

675
00:45:45,298 --> 00:45:45,630
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676
00:45:45,678 --> 00:45:48,358
I am also starting some new
things in Prism Healing that

677
00:45:48,358 --> 00:45:50,068
are going to be incredible.

678
00:45:50,398 --> 00:45:54,658
One of my favorite, favorite offerings
this year is going to be a six

679
00:45:54,678 --> 00:45:59,238
month course, Healing Through Art.

680
00:46:00,218 --> 00:46:05,778
I have done those in single workshops,
but this year you can sign up

681
00:46:05,788 --> 00:46:08,568
for a six month course with me.

682
00:46:09,218 --> 00:46:11,838
Each month we meet around the full moon.

683
00:46:12,358 --> 00:46:16,608
We do a healing through art session,
is an emotional process and release.

684
00:46:17,538 --> 00:46:23,558
You get a journal, get a private IPT
session with me, and you get to be

685
00:46:23,558 --> 00:46:27,988
part of an online group where we are
going to discuss and support each other

686
00:46:28,278 --> 00:46:31,438
through the whole month, each month.

687
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So all of the phases of the
moon between the full moons.

688
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It's gonna be incredible.

689
00:46:37,248 --> 00:46:38,158
I'm so excited.

690
00:46:38,158 --> 00:46:41,088
I'm working on the curriculum
right now, setting up exactly what

691
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we're gonna do each full moon.

692
00:46:42,838 --> 00:46:46,778
And of course, because I love it
so much, it's going to be along

693
00:46:46,788 --> 00:46:49,108
the themes of Celtic mythology.

694
00:46:49,268 --> 00:46:54,818
So we are going to be hearing a little
bit about the Celtic folklore as we

695
00:46:54,818 --> 00:46:58,418
learn something about the full moon and
we're going to dive deep into ourselves.

696
00:46:59,628 --> 00:47:01,728
This is gonna be a very
powerful healing class.

697
00:47:02,318 --> 00:47:03,628
And that starts in October.

698
00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:07,628
So if you are hearing this now and you
haven't registered for it and you do

699
00:47:07,628 --> 00:47:12,798
live in Daybreak or South Jordan, Utah,
nearby area, you're gonna wanna sign up.

700
00:47:13,008 --> 00:47:14,388
So please go to my website.

701
00:47:14,878 --> 00:47:22,258
You'll find my blog, my classes, and my
services all there, and my online groups.

702
00:47:22,528 --> 00:47:27,098
So you can join those or my email
list to get newsletters and updates.

703
00:47:28,938 --> 00:47:31,498
My blog has resources for each episode.

704
00:47:31,498 --> 00:47:37,318
So as this episode is being released, I
will be putting out a blog post for the

705
00:47:37,318 --> 00:47:42,288
information we talked about today and the
resources that I've mentioned, where I

706
00:47:42,288 --> 00:47:48,788
got the information about curses and where
you can look up those things for yourself.

707
00:47:49,958 --> 00:47:54,428
And as we are getting ready to
leave, I would like to give a special

708
00:47:54,448 --> 00:47:56,758
thank you to Mara Starling, the

709
00:47:57,828 --> 00:47:58,090
Ride The Wave Media
Podcast Network [47:44.876]

710
00:47:58,090 --> 00:48:01,988
podcast hosts of Welsh Witch and the
author of the Welsh Wishcraft and

711
00:48:01,988 --> 00:48:04,238
Welsh Fairies coming out this month.

712
00:48:04,638 --> 00:48:05,898
can't wait for my copy.

713
00:48:07,218 --> 00:48:10,568
I do hope that Mara will at
some point be on my podcast.

714
00:48:10,628 --> 00:48:12,268
It would be a dream of mine.

715
00:48:12,278 --> 00:48:14,978
So if you know her or reach out.

716
00:48:15,278 --> 00:48:15,658
All right.

717
00:48:15,898 --> 00:48:21,138
So I would also like to thank
Just Blaine who is my co -host

718
00:48:21,318 --> 00:48:25,868
on the Witch Movie Project and

719
00:48:26,358 --> 00:48:31,588
operator of owner and operator of ride
the wave media network that this podcast

720
00:48:31,588 --> 00:48:34,758
and many other amazing podcasts are on.

721
00:48:35,458 --> 00:48:39,628
I would also like to give a shout out
to Sarah at the sunshine community.

722
00:48:39,648 --> 00:48:45,498
Being a part of the sunshine community
has helped me to, to be a part of a little

723
00:48:45,498 --> 00:48:49,218
community of women doing their passions.

724
00:48:49,988 --> 00:48:51,448
And that is what I'm doing.

725
00:48:51,568 --> 00:48:55,878
That's what I'm here
for doing my passion on.

726
00:48:56,228 --> 00:49:01,098
this podcast and I would like
to thank you for listening.

727
00:49:01,788 --> 00:49:08,428
Please share, like and subscribe
to this podcast and please share it

728
00:49:08,428 --> 00:49:12,148
with anyone you know that is looking
for some Magick in their lives.

729
00:49:12,468 --> 00:49:18,718
Lots of people are lost, struggling
and don't quite know what to do and

730
00:49:18,718 --> 00:49:20,398
I think this podcast could help them.

731
00:49:20,628 --> 00:49:25,048
So if you've liked what you've
heard and you want to support us in

732
00:49:25,738 --> 00:49:32,728
Making more of these episodes and for as
long as we can, you can help us by sharing

733
00:49:32,728 --> 00:49:38,258
it or writing a review or letting us know
your favorite episode or writing in a

734
00:49:38,258 --> 00:49:41,298
question for topic for future episode.

735
00:49:41,648 --> 00:49:44,198
So thank you so much listeners.

736
00:49:44,348 --> 00:49:47,448
You are my favorite,
favorite people in the world.

737
00:49:47,648 --> 00:49:49,658
If you've listened, you're my favorite.

738
00:49:50,698 --> 00:49:50,948
Okay.

739
00:49:50,948 --> 00:49:52,598
Witches and wizards go make Magick.